The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

Trump tarrifs everyone
All our friends come to the table and say they’ll knock shit off in China
Trump pauses tariffs on all but China

And people are surprised by this?

It was always about fucking China.
 
Trump got told that starting at 3.30pm the Hedge Funds would start dumping - they had been holding off all day, and that US Treasuries were already beginning to sell. He caved, plain and simple.

As for China, at this rate you'd have to say trade is probably off the cards altogether in this climate, and the spat between the two superpowers is about to take a pretty ugly turn.
 
Are all these wacky changes in tariffs and stocks coming from the mind of a chaos fueled madman clutching at whatever straw he can? Are they all a game of 4000d chess, executed so perfectly by a business genius that not even chinkiest of chinks predict his moves?

I say, "who cares?". It's day 2 and my life remains unchanged. Just enjoy the ride my niggas.
 
This thread proves that most people are incapable of thinking further than here and now. I think it's pretty clear that Trump is making moves with the assumption of what's going to come next rather than what'll happen right away, even if whatever he is thinking that's gonna happen may be unrealistic. Putting a whole bunch of tariffs on all countries pushed them to have some talks about how to solve it another way and gave them a reminder that the US has a ton of leeway over them. They got the message, 90 day pause to figure things out so the trades will be mutually beneficial in the long run. It's not that he "cucked out", it was meant to be a scare tactic to give the world a kick in the ass.

However it's clear the main hard-on is against China, which is rightful, China has subsidized most of the world including the US. China has subsidized the world including the US. Like others have said, the US would need a massive long term plan to restart local production of everything, and by slamming a major 125% tariff against China, it'll do a lot of immediate, as well as medium to long term damage since everything is being made in China, which is why everything is so cheap. Doesn't seem like he has a plan for that either, so this'll be the real interesting part. Assuming that he won't actually cuck out of the tariffs on China. And yes, this would be a cuck out, since he first went with the hardest one against them, and after the initial reaction he backed out of the smaller ones against Europe and so on, but doubled down on China, meaning that tariff fucking China was his main plan that most likely will backfire.
 
>other countries tariff and otherwise complicate trade with america
>trump issues retaliatory tariffs for the explicit reason of telling the other countries to fuck off
>they do
>trump pauses the retaliatory tariffs
>...
>trump has somehow cucked himself

I don't get it.
It's like the egg thing, the moment trump does something like take office egg prices are supposed to drop immediately and this one thing will be honed in on because they have nothing else, when Trump actually did lower the prices fairly quickly its dropped and ots on to the next point.

If trump took over Brussels woth troops it'd move to how is America going to survive with an 83 cent increase in ration costs etc etc
 
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So how long till the administration goes full 1984 and says "we were never going to tarrif anyone who said anything about tarrifs?" And trying to remind them will only get a shrug at best, playing it off as "left wing libel." At worst.
Considering the left did the same thing with Covid lockdowns/vaccine mandates and Americans have already forgotten, if they try it, it's likely to work. We have the attention span of a goldfish.
 
so, why is no one talking about the fact that some warmongers have been wanting to go against china for decades now, and trump just made up the scenario that makes it possible down the line?:

manufactured consent. His voter base used to be anti war, pro peace etc... now look at it. simping for Bibi and bombing dudes riding camels AGAIN.
This starts with trade war. and ends with 18 years old from idaho dying for taiwan and S korea.
 
>other countries tariff and otherwise complicate trade with america
>trump issues retaliatory tariffs for the explicit reason of telling the other countries to fuck off
>they do
>trump pauses the retaliatory tariffs
>...
>trump has somehow cucked himself

I don't get it.
he didnt cuck himself, he cucked americans by doing market manipulation lmao
 
Also, USA has a beef production deficit at the moment. You are literally not even making enough for yourselves.
this was due to the droughts and the high cost of feed and other shit during covid. we had billions of pounds of beef in cold storage in 2018. So while we can't send beef tomorrow, 2 or 3 years from now we should have the gears in place to export. otoh things like soybeans could start flowing again pretty rapidly and brasil would kiss our ass as we take back the #1 soybean exporter to china. Opening the chinese markets would be a boon for the US with the usual espionage reservations. The chicoms have their domestic market on lockdown but despite chinese assurances that their quality has improved since the 2000s, our shit is made better and will sell more. Just in terms of food, our shit is real and bonafide and not mislabeled, plastic or synthetic.
 
I d do the same thing. And fuck those penguins too.

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So if we can't criticize him for previously bragging about fixing the stock market and we can't criticize him for almost crashing said stock market literally 3 months into his presidency, then when the fuck are we allowed to finally say "Holy shit this situation and the man behind it are fucking stupid"?
I don't mind that part. That part makes sense.
It's when the wires get crossed that I get confused about why people are saying what they're saying.
 
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