The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

[Berrakh]

It's fun to theorize that something will happen but the truth is this is a big nothing. Stocks go up and down for a week or two, some new trade deals are made/signed, and basically nothing happens. Will probably be forgotten by midterms.

I’m usually in this boat but it might not. Until I’m assured I’m gonna at least say the shills aren’t sending their best.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Doomsayers in this thread thinking the Americans will come crawling back to get put in the pod and eat ze bugs once the pain hit (which it will) I think may be sorely mistaken. Sure, a T shirt may cost 50 dollars instead of 10, and this will be brutal for stores like Wal Mart and fast fashion outlets. But if we are being honest people have way too many clothes anyway. Same goes for every other piece of Chinese made plastic junk.

The economic realignment is going to hurt and people's lifestyles will have to change in the short term, but if the alternative is to be a national of cattle, I think most Americans are clued in enough to know what they need to endure.


As for lefties, they were never a factor in this discussion. They are just along for the ride now.

 

[Qui-Gon's Gin]

This "companies can afford to endure exponential losses for four years because maybe a Democrat will win" cope is probably the dumbest persistent thing I see in this discussion.

Sometimes, losses are unavoidable in business. They are going to pass the cost of tariffs onto the consumer, and if that crashes the economy, then they are just going to hunker down even more. What they are not going to do is gamble everything on Trump's Great Leap Forward.

 

[Fae Supremacist]

Why does it have to be the Asians packaging the peaches? Why couldn't it be done in Argentina or in America?

Opportunity cost, that Argentinian or American can be doing something more productive than fruit packing.
Thus Spoke the Invisible Hand.

 

[Unknowing]

Victories come at a cost. If anyone thought that reviving America was gonna happen without a sweat they live detached from reality.

Trump is unironically worthy even among the founding fathers.

 

[NoIdeaWhatImDoing]

Why does it have to be the Asians packaging the peaches? Why couldn't it be done in Argentina or in America? Oh right because in Thailand the people there work for 11$/hr compared to most states here that have it mostly around 14$/hr and benefits and pro worker laws. Stop trying to defend these scumfucks taking away jobs from Americans just so they can have their slaves do it cheaper.

i mean they ones who could complain are argentinas but for that particular product the main market is not USA.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Ngl, people saying Trump is their revenge for what happened under Covid even though he was in charge during that is really funny.

I can forgive Trump for Operation Warp Speed because he was reacting to people panicking and listened to bad advice that turned out to be sabotage. Tariffing the entire world, even penguins, is at minimum, optically stupid.

If you try to win a tradewar vs a country which does not operate as a market economy you're gonna have a bad time. There is a 0% chance China blinks first.

I don't know about 0%, but bluffs only work until they don't. Problem is, we know the US is bluffing with its known domestic issues like the DEI Corporate society. If China is bluffing and collapses first, then the US wins. If they aren't--and shocking there's always the possibility MAGA is wrong--then the US loses and is isolated for pulling Wolf Warrior diplomacy with fiat currency.

Didn't know Scott Bessent worked for George Soros. Now I'm thinking the Tariff rollout is also sabotaged. It's one thing to tariff Canada or the EU because they made themselves US vassal states decades ago and humbling them is a good way for them to kiss ring. Tariffing Taiwan or Japan or Korea doesn't make sense because that whole region works on playing the US and China against each other so they can work in peace. Singapore basically said, "I dunno, prepare for a bear market, I guess."

 

[Same Shit Different Ass]

This image alone should tell you exactly why these tariffs are necessary. The Economy shouldn't be ran on the expectation that the Average American working man should be competing with slave labor from the third world. All so these global corporations can protect their bottom line and make their stock holders happy.
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You are delusional. America does not have to package pears. Packaging pears is not a high added value process. You can have the foreigners package your pears for cheap and have your workers create more valuable products and services with their time. You don't have to go beyond David Ricardo in economic theory to grasp this concept. Your post is seriously embarrassing and people like you having a vote that equals mine is a great offence to me.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

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Massive uptick in just the last few minutes, Fox is waiting to hear why.

Livestream here.

They're saying on Twitter there's a 90 day pause on the tariffs on all countries except for China.

 

[WelperHelper99]

How is any of this effective revenge? If the Flavor-Aid we're being told to drink is to hunker down and eat shit for an untold amount of time, who is really getting punished? You think it's going to impact the upper echelons that have enough squirreled away in various assets that they can cruise through whatever bullshit is coming, or don't you think this is going to fuck over the people who were just barely getting by as is? This will kill a lot of wealth and industry for sure, but the people that will feel the hurt the most are not the ones who had power to organize lockdowns.

If the mentality people have is that, "At least he's doing something," I'll grant them that, yeah, Trump calls out a lot of bullshit. But knowing that something is wrong is not the same as having a competent answer for it. You can say the exact same things about commies. They sure did a great job of acknowledging the problems in Russia, China, Best Korea, etc. Gold star there. And what did they do with that foresight? Their shitty economic fundamentals just accelerated the rot. The Russians are off dying for Putin's vanity land grab. China's lockdowns were extreme and they're probably about to massacre a bunch of their boys over Taiwan. Don't even need to go into how NK, Vietnam, and Cambodia are functional hellholes on Earth.

The chinks have already announced they will stop importing American food as a way to hurt us. They are going to starve. They will suffer immensely. Trump is doing a immense amount of vengeance already.

 

[Fae Supremacist]

This "companies can afford to endure exponential losses for four years because maybe a Democrat will win" cope is probably the dumbest persistent thing I see in this discussion.

I'm sorry if that's harsh, but what you propose is less realistic than companies diverting some of their money to American manufacturing

Company sells less product to American consumers who can afford the tariffs, adjusts their production numbers accordingly, moves their focus on other markets globally

Company invests billions into setting up production in the US which can be rendered unprofitable at a whim in a few years, and they sell less product to American consumers anyway since their Made in America product is more expensive due to labor costs

If you think option 2 is more likely you have worms in your brain.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

hypothetically, how long until we see any sort of positive effects from all this.

We are already reaping the benefits. Have you read this thread over the last few days?

 

[World in Scarlet]

He cucked out again, lmao.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

i’ve never wanted the ability to see which country users are from than this moment

now that the free ride has ended i’m expecting lots of whining from communists who have been mooching off of American superiority for decades

"Americans are like third worlders, but with money"

You're about to become third worlders, but without money. Sucks to be Europoor.

 

[Chudborean]

Good, Amerimutts deserve to suffer.

 

[GloriousRapeRabbit]

They're saying on Twitter there's a 90 day pause on the tariffs on all countries except for China.

Wow....seems to be true this time?
This is getting too schizo for me...im out, tell me when the world starts burning and i will come back.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

LMAO

 

[smartypants302]

This image alone should tell you exactly why these tariffs are necessary. The Economy shouldn't be ran on the expectation that the Average American working man should be competing with slave labor from the third world. All so these global corporations can protect their bottom line and make their stock holders happy.
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Don't forget about seafood harvested in U.S and then is sent overseas to process and sent back. 40 to 60 percent of U.S caught seafood is processed this way ( depends the year to year).

https://www.theoutlawocean.com/investigations/china-the-superpower-of-seafood/the-uyghurs-forced-to-process-the-worlds-fish/

 

[WelperHelper99]

He cucked out again, lmao.

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You mean his Tarrifs worked. Also lmao, China is at 125%, holy kek.

 

[IsaacShraeder]

He cucked out again, lmao.
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Can't wait for the sycophants to twist themselves into yet another knot trying to explain how this was the REAL real plan all along