Celebrity Meghan Markle / Rachel Meghan Markle / Meghan, Duchess of Sussex / Meghan Sussex / The Alliterate One - Markle Snarkle

[John Andrews Stan]

he was a co-pilot in one of the American helicopters.

Yes, that’s what I said above: a copilot. But he’s crafted a media narrative that he was a pilot. In fact he was a copilot, the junior position supporting the pilot. Harry makes it sound like he was in the senior role.

 

[duckling]

@aseverofficial stories

@sheena_teasley, @laurentilashalski, a_dash_of_kate, @staceyoyama

Spoiler: stories

@meghan post. I see in the group shot she was predictably front and center (next to Audra Mcdonald). Do you think the first pic is in black and white because Meghan is clearly so much paler than Audra?

for this next batch, there is no audio on this first vid on instagram either.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Dumb question, but if H&M do get their security back, that means the US will be paying, since they live in California, correct?

 

[obsdj]

Dumb question, but if H&M do get their security back, that means the US will be paying, since they live in California, correct?

I don't believe so. I believe the whole case is only in reference to security while they are in the UK.

 

[Eventide]

Dumb question, but if H&M do get their security back, that means the US will be paying, since they live in California, correct?

Hypothetically, yes (since they want international protected persons status?)

But they absolutely won't, since H&M are not official working members of the British royal family. When they chose Brexit, they chose to give up all the benefits of being a working member of the royal family - & that includes paid for security. Working royals are treated by the US as unofficial British diplomats. Interestingly enough, working royals do not hold Diplomatic passports, or special Royal passports (...I'm sure this fact must have disappointed Megs). Here's a photo of Princess Diana's 1980's passport (as featured in Alastair Burnet's book "In Private In Public the Prince and Princess of Wales"):

Spoiler: Diana's old passport

There's hundreds of foreign royals currently residing within the United States (for example, the stereotype of Saudi Princes living in luxurious NYC/LA/Miami penthouses). Just because a royal resides within the United States, it does not mean the US is on the hook to pay for their personal private security.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

What's the point though? They don't seem to be in a hurry to return/go on a trip to the UK

 

[Eventide]

What's the point though? They don't seem to be in a hurry to return/go on a trip to the UK

I believe it would apply to the entire commonwealth, not just the UK? (Like Canada/Australia/etc.)

 

[multiverse]

he was a co-pilot in one of the American helicopters

He is not a copilot of anything. He was a helicopter gunner. Harry was too lazy and dense to learn how to pilot.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

I believe it would apply to the entire commonwealth, not just the UK? (Like Canada/Australia/etc.)

Still- that reads way more like an attempted power move than any kind of genuine need

 

[John Andrews Stan]

What's the point though? They don't seem to be in a hurry to return/go on a trip to the UK

He claims he wants to bring his family there, but everyone close to Meghan says she’s never going back.

He is not a copilot of anything. He was a helicopter gunner. Harry was too lazy and dense to learn how to pilot.

In fact he was a copilot, which is often referred to as CPG (Copilot/Gunner). This is a junior position and is often taken by someone who is still accumulating flying hours to qualify.

 

[Eventide]

Still- that reads way more like an attempted power move than any kind of genuine need

It definitely is an attempt at a power move.

He claims he wants to bring his family there, but everyone close to Meghan says she’s never going back.

It'd be bizarre if Meghan went back to the UK, after claiming in the Oprah Brexit interview that the British Royal family were racists that wanted her dead. "The British Royal Family wants to off me for being a black woman!" is not exactly a genie you can just put back in the bottle.

Although I wouldn't put it past H&M to go back to the UK eventually & try to act like everything is hunky dory. Narcs often do weird shit like that.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

It'd be bizarre if Meghan went back to the UK, after claiming in the Oprah Brexit interview that the British Royal family were racists that wanted her dead. "The British Royal Family wants to off me for being a black woman!" is not exactly a genie you can just put back in the bottle.

Don’t forget that Harry then DENIED that they ever said the royal family were racist. Yet for some reason they accepted an RFK Ripple of Hope Award for fighting “structural racism” in the royal family. They love their Rekieta-style semantic games and outright lies. Just complete bullshitters at all times. Anyone who trusts them is an absolute moron.

 

[HairyBadger]

Dumb question, but if H&M do get their security back, that means the US will be paying, since they live in California, correct?

No, If then get there security back It will be paid by the UK taxpayer.

Harry is arguing for Royal Security. While in California they do not get Royal Security.

No, If then get there security back It will be paid by the UK taxpayer.

Harry is arguing for Royal Security.

No, If then get there security back It will be paid by the UK taxpayer.

Harry is arguing for Royal Security. While in California they do not get Royal Security.

no, the usa ar not paying.

no, the usa ar not paying.

I;m ok taking the piss out of california

 

[100%ThatBitch]

Oh, how have I missed out on this thread! I love chatting shit about people with gobs of money and no real purpose! I lived in the UK while Meghan and Harry were still living there and I was amused by how badly Meghan handled everything as a fellow relocated American.

One thing I’m suprised hasn’t been mentioned is that Harry and Meghan have multiple versions of the story about how they met. As has been mentioned before, it’s partly because Meghan was still with her chef ex, but also because the circumstances weren’t that romantic in reality? The original story was that they had been set up on a blind date by mutual friend. (I recall there also being speculation that they had met at Wimbledon but I don’t think H&M ever confirmed this so they get a pass) This is the version where Meghan made a it a big deal about her one question being “is he kind?” Because she doesn’t care that he’s royalty at alllll and is all about inner beauty.

This is also the version that Tina Brown (former editor of Vanity Fair and Tatler, and author of The Diana Chroniclers) gives in her book The Palace Papers (which is very fun and worth a read.)

But it was thanks to Violet von Westenholz, who had issued Meghan the Wimbledon invitation on behalf of Ralph Lauren, that the cards fell into place. As the daughter of Baron Frederick Patrick Piers von Westenholz, one of King Charles’s best friends, Violet knew everybody. She was a childhood friend of William and Harry, and her sister Victoria had been romantically linked with Harry. When Meghan once again floated the bait that she was looking for a boyfriend, Violet suggested an idea that was too good to be true. How to make it happen? Markus, of course. No one knew better than he about choreographing high-end social collisions. Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne had lunch with Meghan at London’s Delaunay restaurant on July 1, 2016, and thought her client had never looked more beautiful. Meghan, unable to contain her excitement, shared the secret of whom she was going to meet that night for drinks at Soho House. “There’s no way he’s going to be able to resist her,” Nelthorpe-Cowne thought.

It’s also the story told in Finding Freedom, which was written by two journalists with access to Meghan and Harry’s friends (and thus their tacit approval)

The newest face in her working world was Violet von Westenholz, a PR executive from Ralph Lauren who had scheduled several events during Meghan’s summer trip to London, where the actress would be one of the many celebrity brand ambassadors for the label. In addition to the fashion world, Violet was also well-known in English society. Her father, Frederick Patrick Piers Baron von Westenholz, a former Olympic skier, was one of Prince Charles’s oldest and closest friends, so Violet and her siblings grew up skiing in Switzerland with Prince William and Prince Harry.

While Meghan might have enjoyed sipping gin fizzes under the club’s hushed lighting, what she really looked forward to was a blind date she had planned for the following evening. It was summer, and she was newly single. Although her two-year relationship (her first serious one since her divorce three years earlier) had only recently ended, Meghan still very much believed in finding lasting love. During her visit to London, however, Meghan joked to a pal that she’d settle for “a nice English gentleman to flirt with.” Except this date was with no ordinary guy. Over lunch on July 1, Meghan revealed the mystery man’s identity to her London-based agent Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne. Gina and Meghan, who first met at the 2014 One Young World Summit, had traveled to numerous overseas jobs together and even took a side vacation during a work trip to Malta in March 2015. So the actress felt she could confide in the agent as a friend. “I’m going on a blind date tonight,” Meghan said coyly, after finishing off her salad at the Delaunay restaurant, near London’s Covent Garden. “Who is it?” Gina asked. “Do I know him?” Meghan leaned in excitedly and whispered, “I’m sure you know him. It’s Prince Harry.” Floored by the news, Gina asked her friend in a hushed tone, “Do you know what you’re letting yourself in for?” “Well, it’s going to be an experience,” Meghan said, “and at least it will be a fun night.” “This could be crazy,” Gina said, trying to impress upon the American the insane and unique culture of tabloid coverage in the UK that came with dating a royal. “You will be the most wanted woman.” Meghan wasn’t thinking that far ahead of herself, particularly since the woman who had set her up with the prince said, “Let’s just get you in a room together and see what happens.” Despite reports that Violet von Westenholz had set up the date, it was mostly Meghan’s pals Misha Nonoo and Markus Anderson who were in on the first meeting. (The couple themselves prefer to keep the story of their matchmaker a mystery, even to close friends. Meghan’s only clue to pals at the time was that her first encounter with Harry was “serendipitous.”)

As you can see here, M&H are already hedging their bets by slyly refusing to confirm who exactly set them up.

And as has been noted earlier in the thread, the Vanity Fair article had a similar version but with the date being in MAY, not July, when she was still entangled in her previous relationship.

The story that they met through instagram is a recent one, and the one they told in their Netflix series (which also leaves out their mutual socialite friend AND the Vanity Fair article that introduced Meghan to the world (and me lol)).

Harry] Meghan and I met over Instagram.

I was scrolling through my feed

and someone who was a friend

had this video of the two of them,

like a Snapchat and um, it's

Oh gosh. Isn't that whole thing,

it's got like doggy ears

- [Harry]with doggy ears and

- [Meghan] That's what he saw of me.

That was the first thing.

[Meghan] And then she

sent me an email saying,

"I know you said you're single and,

a friend of mine asked about you and,

maybe you'd like to meet him."

And I said, "Who is it?" And she said,

"It's Prince Haz." I said, "Who's that?"

[keyboard clicking]

[Meghan] I asked if I could see his feed.

So that's the thing. When

people say, "Did you Google him?" "No."

But I that's

your homework. You're like, "Hmm,

let me see what

they're about in their feed

not what someone else says about them

but what they

are putting out about themselves."

That to me was the best barometer.

I went through it and it was just like

beautiful photography

and all these environmental sh*ts

and this time he was spending in Africa

Phew.

[Harry] Then we got each others'

numbers. We were just constantly in touch,

and I went, "Let's meet."

[Meghan] I was in London,

I was going to Wimbledon.

A mutual connection through friends. But not at all the sexy blind date story they originally told! They basically set it up themselves after Harry saw her on snap and thought she was hot.

I vaguely recall there being more inconsistencies but that’s all I can think of at the moment, mostly because I find it funny as fuck that they keep changing the story. Possibly bc the real version about them hooking up over snap is pretty lame and plebeian.

Edit: I just remembered what the funny thing about the Snapchat story was. So circa 2016, there was a rumor that SoHo was running a “companion service” through an instagram account run by the owner, Markus Anderson, who was at the time a friend of Meghan’s, and that Harry had DM-ed Markus to get an introduction, but this whole rumor was quashed by the blind date set up by Violet story, so it’s HILARIOUS that they made this the story for Netflix documentary because it makes me think that maybe the rumor isn’t such a rumor after all. (I don’t know how much I believe all the yacht girl stuff about Meghan, I think she was too busy grifting across the US and the UK at the time tbh. She tried to get in with the wealthy Irish set before that according to Brown and Bower)

 

[HairyBadger]

pick a high end?

love the cats. Love almost all you said.

do the cats !

 

[Free the Pedos]

Just because a royal resides within the United States, it does not mean the US is on the hook to pay for their personal private security.

If the US were obligated, you know Trump would love to end that just to make an example of them. It's just the kind of showy thing he'd love.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

London’s Delaunay restaurant

Aside: They have the most velvety, rich borscht on the planet and it’s somehow completely vegan. (Or at least they did the last time I was there.) Everything there is great.

What’s NOT great? Meghan’s sun damaged décolletage. I hate how she labels all of her age spots “freckles.” She’s overdue for melanoma with how many growths she has and has already had removed.

And boy is that upper blepharoplasty still obvious as hell.

 

[100%ThatBitch]

Also, I saw the wedding exhibition for H&M’s wedding because I happened to be visiting Holyrood Palace while it was there, and admission was free and I thought why not. The dress was actually gorgeous on the mannequin, just such a shame it did not fit her at all well. I’ve heard a rumor from a Givenchy insider that Meghan was remarkably uncooperative and only came in for like two fittings and sent in her measurements instead of coming in to get measured, which is wild. If I was getting a couture gown, I’d want it to fit like a glove! There was also some drama about Meghan picking a French fashion house for her gown, when the British royals are supposed to pick British designers and houses to support the creatives and industry in the UK. Queen Liz’s was designed by Sir Norman Hartnell, and made in the UK, Princess Diana’s was made by David and Elizabeth Emmanuel (British designers based in Mayfair and graduates of the Royal College of Art), and Kate’s dress was made by the British fashion houseAlexander McQueen and designed by Sarah Burton (also British. Funnily enough, she moved to Givenchy in 2023.) Meghan picked a FRENCH brand, one beloved by Hollywood actresses like Audrey Hepburn, though the designer, Claire Wright Keller, was British and I suspect the only reason this got approved at all.

The veil was also spectacularly gorgeous, completely handmade in a Parisian workshop, taking hundreds of hours. And while it is cool that all the flowers of the commonwealth were added in, I find it… amusing? Annoying? That it was entirely French-made when the lace on Kate’s dress was created by the Royal School of Needlework on a base of French and English made lace.

(I looked it up and one of the lacemakers retired recently. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-derbyshire-59220191
He was the last maker of the particular style of lace in the country.)

And the Kate effect meant that these lace markers saw an uptick in sales, so she genuinely supported a dying art with her choices!

I also saw the flower girls’ dresses and the gems were extremely ragged and I was shocked. I might have pictures somewhere still and will edit if I find them. I know for certain that my mother wouldn’t have let me leave the house in a dress like that, and I’m sure it was giving Kate fits that her daughter was wearing an unhemmed ragged mess in new tight dress shoes with no socks. Fucking wild

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

He claims he wants to bring his family there, but everyone close to Meghan says she’s never going back.

While I do not claim to speak for all Brits, I’m pretty sure a substantial number do not want them back.

Harry is just stamping his feet because he got told no.

 

[duckling]

I vaguely recall there being more inconsistencies but that’s all I can think of at the moment, mostly because I find it funny as fuck that they keep changing the story. Possibly bc the real version about them hooking up over snap is pretty lame and plebeian.

they also forced vanity fair to change the "Wild about Harry" story to correct the date they met from May 2016 to July 2016.

And boy is that upper blepharoplasty still obvious as hell.

I have been looking at her recently and wondering if she actually did have a deep plane lower facelift. I had initially said no, but I was watching some plastic surgeons review celebrity work recently and immediately started second guessing myself. Her sideburns are probably too intact but she has this one new bunch of hairs that keeps sticking out funny in front of her ears and it could explain the weird ass lumps (potentially traction lines) on the side of her face earlier this year. If somebody could please find a very high res, unphotoshopped image of her ear from the past 4 months so I can stare at it please share. Her promo shot for her podcast (blue shirt) is retouched and doesn't work.