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Motherfucker the welding industry uses CAD like a rented mule. He did not mark it properly. He just gave them the image of his niggerbox and told them to weld it, not HOW. There are specific weld symbols that tell you where to place a weld, what type, how long it should be, if it should be intermittent, etc. Fuck that nigger. I bet they were jerking his chain, AS THEY SHOULD!
While you are correct, If you do any work at all outside of production monkey jobs and with any sort of one off fabrication or prototyping company, it's pretty typical to get a drawing with either missing weld symbols or none at all.

Often times, the people making the product have no idea what welds would be optimal because they AREN'T welders, so they work in concert with the fab house and their welding staff to come up with the best welds for the joint. And this is actually preferable, because the engineers doing the fab design might think they need a 1/2" fillet on both sides of a joint but don't realize the material will warp like a bitch if you do that or you can't access the other side of the joint by the time the assembly is at that step.

Or they mark up some PJP groove weld with a completely unrealistic groove angle or depth requirement that can't be met because they don't understand the limitations of a GMAW weld. Or they think you can get your hand down a 4 1/2 inch box tube 3 feet to put a weld on the cap from the inside or something.

It's pretty common to get drawings with no weld symbols in some areas of the industry. I wouldn't go full couch ape over it.
 
Motherfucker the welding industry uses CAD like a rented mule. He did not mark it properly. He just gave them the image of his niggerbox and told them to weld it, not HOW. There are specific weld symbols that tell you where to place a weld, what type, how long it should be, if it should be intermittent, etc. Fuck that nigger. I bet they were jerking his chain, AS THEY SHOULD!
Did you actually read what I said? Yeah, I know that this guy is a dumbass for thinking he can just send some 3d CAD-designs for a shop and expect them to make it. But the thing is, those Chinese shops will actually take in that work. They have their own engineers do all the engineering based on that simple CAD file, and then manufacture it. For 1/5th of the cost.

You can say that this type of outsourcing is niggerlicious all day long, the fact is that a lot of American companies are doing it exactly like this, and they simply cannot bring the manufacturing back to the US because they can't afford it. Imagine, if this "nigger" had to employ a proper engineering company to make that CAD file into actual manufacturing plans, and then after that try to get a machine shop to manufacture it? How much would that cost, instead of simply contacting rice niggers to do all this stuff in house, without any hassle, for a fraction of the price?

And if your answer to this is going to be "well, those people deserve to have their business go bankrupt", fine. How the posts have shifted from all the talk about how these tariffs will create more American jobs.
 
Chinese products aren't that cheap.

Everyone I've heard complain about the prices has either never tried to actually order anything from a non-Chinese company or they have a tiny order volume that is unprofitable for private factories to tool up for (which appears to be the case in the video).

Here's a random example:

This product is made in China by a company that is an extension of the People's Liberation Army (and therefore gets enormous amounts of state subsidies):
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It's 99.99% Made in America competitor (only foreign part is a LED crystal from Germany) is only 38% more expensive:
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and they're still in the process of paying off the factory (Holosun got free factories courtesy of the CCP) and plan to lower the price once they can afford to.

American companies can compete on a level playing field.

Holosuns are also poor quality compared to their competitors but their fanboys dismiss all complaints because of their low price. Their dot blooms way worse than competitors (causing many people to think they have astigmatism) and they blatantly lie about their battery life.
For the longest time Chinksun would just rip off of Sig Sauer.
Literally the same thing but cheaper.
 
Did you actually read what I said? Yeah, I know that this guy is a dumbass for thinking he can just send some 3d CAD-designs for a shop and expect them to make it. But the thing is, those Chinese shops will actually take in that work. They have their own engineers do all the engineering based on that simple CAD file, and then manufacture it. For 1/5th of the cost.

You can say that this type of outsourcing is niggerlicious all day long, the fact is that a lot of American companies are doing it exactly like this, and they simply cannot bring the manufacturing back to the US because they can't afford it. Imagine, if this "nigger" had to employ a proper engineering company to make that CAD file into actual manufacturing plans, and then after that try to get a machine shop to manufacture it? How much would that cost, instead of simply contacting rice niggers to do all this stuff in house, without any hassle, for a fraction of the price?

And if your answer to this is going to be "well, those people deserve to have their business go bankrupt", fine. How the posts have shifted from all the talk about how these tariffs will create more American jobs.
Economic collapse 2025 thread is more for you, please post there.
 
How bad must UK trains be if this is seen as an improvement? Lol
It was in West Virginia to be fair.
While you are correct, If you do any work at all outside of production monkey jobs and with any sort of one off fabrication or prototyping company, it's pretty typical to get a drawing with either missing weld symbols or none at all.

Often times, the people making the product have no idea what welds would be optimal because they AREN'T welders, so they work in concert with the fab house and their welding staff to come up with the best welds for the joint. And this is actually preferable, because the engineers doing the fab design might think they need a 1/2" fillet on both sides of a joint but don't realize the material will warp like a bitch if you do that or you can't access the other side of the joint by the time the assembly is at that step.

Or they mark up some PJP groove weld with a completely unrealistic groove angle or depth requirement that can't be met because they don't understand the limitations of a GMAW weld. Or they think you can get your hand down a 4 1/2 inch box tube 3 feet to put a weld on the cap from the inside or something.

It's pretty common to get drawings with no weld symbols in some areas of the industry. I wouldn't go full couch ape over it.
The problem is he didn't understand why they were asking questions. He was being a nigger over the situation. And he had been making the boxes for six years. He should have detailed schematics by now. He doesn't. Screw him.
 
The New York Subway seems rather hellish in particular doesn't it? Guess your mileage will vary in other parts of the country though.
Boston subways are kinda dingy and not sparkly new, but people are pretty normal
Motherfucker the welding industry uses CAD like a rented mule. He did not mark it properly. He just gave them the image of his niggerbox and told them to weld it, not HOW. There are specific weld symbols that tell you where to place a weld, what type, how long it should be, if it should be intermittent, etc. Fuck that nigger. I bet they were jerking his chain, AS THEY SHOULD!
I wish he posted an actual fucking link instead of some chingchong webm shit my chink phone won’t load
While you are correct, If you do any work at all outside of production monkey jobs and with any sort of one off fabrication or prototyping company, it's pretty typical to get a drawing with either missing weld symbols or none at all.
then you would have to meet with a retard to English translator. Make an appointment
Did you actually read what I said? Yeah, I know that this guy is a dumbass for thinking he can just send some 3d CAD-designs for a shop and expect them to make it. But the thing is, those Chinese shops will actually take in that work. They have their own engineers do all the engineering based on that simple CAD file, and then manufacture it. For 1/5th of the cost.
so you’re trying to pretend that getting yeah yeah’d and them taking off to make the cheapest version their minds can fill in the blanks to come up with is a mark of quality?
You can say that this type of outsourcing is niggerlicious all day long, the fact is that a lot of American companies are doing it exactly like this, and they simply cannot bring the manufacturing back to the US because they can't afford it. Imagine, if this "nigger" had to employ a proper engineering company to make that CAD file into actual manufacturing plans, and then after that try to get a machine shop to manufacture it? How much would that cost, instead of simply contacting rice niggers to do all this stuff in house, without any hassle, for a fraction of the price?
I have seen small companies get absolutely destroyed because chinks send maliciously bad product. I am in profound, extreme doubt that you have the actual experience to know how this shit works in real life.

Want castings from chinks? They dump them out of the molds before allowing proper cooling time so your shit will be warped and unusable if anything needs a tolerance tighter than full inches. Source: I worked for a guy who ordered cheap castings from china
 
Did you actually read what I said? Yeah, I know that this guy is a dumbass for thinking he can just send some 3d CAD-designs for a shop and expect them to make it. But the thing is, those Chinese shops will actually take in that work. They have their own engineers do all the engineering based on that simple CAD file, and then manufacture it. For 1/5th of the cost.

You can say that this type of outsourcing is niggerlicious all day long, the fact is that a lot of American companies are doing it exactly like this, and they simply cannot bring the manufacturing back to the US because they can't afford it. Imagine, if this "nigger" had to employ a proper engineering company to make that CAD file into actual manufacturing plans, and then after that try to get a machine shop to manufacture it? How much would that cost, instead of simply contacting rice niggers to do all this stuff in house, without any hassle, for a fraction of the price?

And if your answer to this is going to be "well, those people deserve to have their business go bankrupt", fine. How the posts have shifted from all the talk about how these tariffs will create more American jobs.
I have zero respect for "Americans" that would sell their own brothers for a quick buck. Do it right or get fucked. He's selling bad products to his customers that will fall apart. He has no respect for the industry that he's in.
 
They have their own engineers do all the engineering based on that simple CAD file, and then manufacture it. For 1/5th of the cost.
I imagine that a Chinese engineer can afford to work for nothing, since he was probably trained for free at some diploma mill. I don't think anyone should expect that though. Free Ching Chong engineering is not a human right.
 
Motherfucker the welding industry uses CAD like a rented mule. He did not mark it properly. He just gave them the image of his niggerbox and told them to weld it, not HOW. There are specific weld symbols that tell you where to place a weld, what type, how long it should be, if it should be intermittent, etc. Fuck that nigger. I bet they were jerking his chain, AS THEY SHOULD!
He’ll be dumbfounded when his customers complain about a weak weld breaking.
 
I imagine that a Chinese engineer can afford to work for nothing, since he was probably trained for free at some diploma mill. I don't think anyone should expect that though. Free Ching Chong engineering is not a human right.
I promise, nobody is pulling out a calculator in this situation. The only engineering chinkland does is reverse engineering

It’s funny, because these lies are the same that got the suits in the front office to start exploring trade with China thirty years ago. Each time, the midwit with the bachelors in business who thought understanding manufacturing and engineering was beneath them believed that they had found a golden egg laying goose and would be wreathed in laurels for it
 
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I imagine that a Chinese engineer can afford to work for nothing, since he was probably trained for free at some diploma mill. I don't think anyone should expect that though. Free Ching Chong engineering is not a human right.
You assume he has training. He likely doesn't. He is using the niggerboxes as his practice. This is not uncommon even in the west for newbies, but in the east... I cannot begin to imagine how rampant it is as a practice.
He’ll be dumbfounded when his customers complain about a weak weld breaking.
I can see it now. Guy was using the box for a few months, and suddenly, the door falls off at the welds. Porosity was found at the break point. A very green mistake, but not uncommon if you're getting paid pennies and don't understand what you're doing
 
No wall, no deportations and now no tariffs. But hey still sending billions of dollars to Israel and more American troops to watch over the genocide going on there.

Blormpf also nominated another kike as some 'UN antisemitism guard' thing. I think I'm tired of all this winning.
>calling gaza a genocide
>"blormpf"
>Blatant lies
>"i'm so tired of all this winning"

It's probably about time for you to go back. Reddit or /pol/ is fine, just not here.
 
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Say it ain't so.
What's the point of all this then... so my kids can work in fucking coal mines?
More info here.

I feel so deflated. I guess we gotta take shit day by day. We can't just go doomer because the media is saying one thing but shit changes tomorrow.
America could never become a manufacturing powerhouse overnight. It takes a long time for that shit to pop up.
i still wanna see total ccp death.

Update (1255ET): As Trump adviser Stephen Miller points out, the products are still "subject to the tariff under the original IEEPA on China of 20 percent."

Washington Post: maybe your reporters should try reading before posting. These products are subject to the tariff under the original IEEPA on China of 20 percent. https://t.co/MI4oDEb8S3
— Stephen Miller (@StephenM) April 12, 2025
The White House issued a further clarifying statement that the exemption (from the higher tariffs only) will be retroative to April 5th and all duties received since then will be refunded

Any duties that were collected at or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on April 5, 2025, pursuant to Executive Order 14257 and the Subsequent Orders, on imports that are excepted under Executive Order 14257 and the Subsequent Orders because they are “semiconductors,” as explained in this memorandum, shall be refunded in accordance with U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s standard procedures for such refunds.
 
Did you actually read what I said? Yeah, I know that this guy is a dumbass for thinking he can just send some 3d CAD-designs for a shop and expect them to make it. But the thing is, those Chinese shops will actually take in that work. They have their own engineers do all the engineering based on that simple CAD file, and then manufacture it. For 1/5th of the cost.
As a machinist I'm going to wager that they can do it because they fully intend to improvise unless you communicate with them. That +0/-0.001 tolerance is now +/- 0.010 and that 16ra finish is now a knurl. And the stuff that's physically impossible to make have extremely creative solutions that compromise the structure of the part.
 
And if your answer to this is going to be "well, those people deserve to have their business go bankrupt", fine. How the posts have shifted from all the talk about how these tariffs will create more American jobs.

The answer is that people who built their wealth on cheap imports are vastly outnumbered by people who need actual jobs. Also, you claimed that not being able to outsource 3D CAD fabrication to China will destroy the middle class. I cannot begin to imagine what sort of weird little bubble you live in if you think the average American household makes most of their income by selling things they ordered from China.
 
The answer is that people who built their wealth on cheap imports are vastly outnumbered by people who need actual jobs. Also, you claimed that not being able to outsource 3D CAD fabrication to China will destroy the middle class. I cannot begin to imagine what sort of weird little bubble you live in if you think the average American household makes most of their income by selling things they ordered from China.
@Foley is Finnish.
 
More info here.

I feel so deflated. I guess we gotta take shit day by day. We can't just go doomer because the media is saying one thing but shit changes tomorrow.
America could never become a manufacturing powerhouse overnight. It takes a long time for that shit to pop up.
i still wanna see total ccp death.
20% is still plenty. I think it’s like saying “alright we can’t actually fulfill capacity on all the phones being built, 20% will encourage Taiwan to reshore Foxconn or maybe move part of it to Vietnam”

And don’t act like it wouldn’t be a massive improvement just to see something like the 11% of US gdp being manufacturing grow to 15%, then 20%.

Lets just narrow the fucking trade deficit and don’t let your diaper overflow
 
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