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Repealing Roe v Wade was also impossible. Ending government support for trannies, impossible. Ending the Department of Education, impossible. Ending USAID, impossible. Offering White a south Africans a path to citizenship, impossible. Building the the wall; using the Alien Enemies Act; deporting studies and immigrants who lived here 10+ years, impossible.
Not quite. Roe v. Wade was going to go given how most people in America are religious and don't approve of abortion. As for the rest, they could all easily come back if the next administration is Democrat, which can easily happen if the Republicans lose enough votes.

You don't have to roll back women being allowed to have bank accounts and have a career. No fault divorce would still be allowed, but either both agree and split 50/50 or the sole-leaver forfeits everything (maybe up to years living expenses to be nice). Marriage infidelity is fault for divorce and would tip the scales against the cheater.
A 50/50 split would be better, but again, marriage courts tend to rule in favor of the women-even in conservative states. Conservatives did nothing about extortionist alimony payments that got men like Robin Williams killed. Instead, conservatives are too busy trying to force men into marriage, despite how broken the system is. The conservative response to men whining about how broken the system is "suck it up, soldier, daddy needs more babies for the system!"

Roe v. Wade got overturned because it was a hot-button topic that energized people. Just like white South Africans, federal aid for trannies, etc.. Men's woes with marriage are something most conservative talking heads ignore, and if you bring it up to them, they call you a whiner.

Women's voting patterns are shifting. Trannies in sports, healthier food, safer medicine, and better schools are issues they care about. "Reverse racism" at Universities is another issue they want fixed.
Depends on the women. Conservative women, yes, liberal women, no.
 
I don't know who you were having this argument with, but it wasn't me.
It was originally me pushing back on part of @indomitable snowman ’s message, because he was talking about this video claiming China has secret special tooling and engineering and didn’t address that claim specifically. He slid it to “we’ll all those people are gone.”

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So I was pointing out that no, we don’t just not have people capable of making tooling and engineering PHONE CASES, we actually make some of the machine tools China uses.

In fact, China is the entity that needs to be caught up to speed. Maybe I wasn’t articulate and it was naive of me to expect people to be able to judge the context of what I said without being tediously walked through it


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So besides this starting some weird revolt of dipshits saying “people who use Ai should be banned!” meaning me, since I was the context, you chimed in with

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Well dude, you have to use tools to make tools, and to make tools, you have to understand what the tools need to do, so if you make tools, yeah you can probably use them. Machining is machining, in that you need or will pick up a general understanding of metal characteristics, spacial reasoning, tolerances, general practices like making sure to use clean undamaged collets and installing them free of grit on the threads, etc etc etc ad tedium

I’ve done toolmaking and machining. There’s a lot of principles that carry over, especially because even if the machines are different, you’re running cnc’s in both cases

So yeah you were over your head

Also, I’m pretty sure I’m more knowledgeable about the skill set Tim Cook is talking about than Tim Cook. Tim Cook was saying “don’t mind our revenue outflows! Line go UP!”
 
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A 50/50 split would be better, but again, marriage courts tend to rule in favor of the women-even in conservative states. Conservatives did nothing about extortionist alimony payments that got men like Robin Williams killed. Instead, conservatives are too busy trying to force men into marriage, despite how broken the system is. The conservative response to men whining about how broken the system is "suck it up, soldier, daddy needs more babies for the system!"

Roe v. Wade got overturned because it was a hot-button topic that energized people. Just like white South Africans, federal aid for trannies, etc.. Men's woes with marriage are something most conservative talking heads ignore, and if you bring it up to them, they call you a whiner.
The consequences of the sexual revolution and related Boomer divorce rates are what ultimately led to how broken things are now. As a male myself, I don't want to possibly get involved with some woman who might turn out to be abusive in private. I see how women present themselves and act in public, and I don't want to get involved with that, but apparently it's horrid if I as a man call out how I see women behaving in public. To add insult to injury, the population is starting to dip in the developed world because not many people aged 25-35 are having children.

But apparently every young male in that ten year window needs to be demonized because they won't have kids. Well they can't find work to afford those kids or own a home of their own, and they have probably grown up seeing their older male relatives get messed up by the family court system/abusive girlfriends, and they don't want to put up with that. Stepdad generally isn't an option, either, I doubt many men want to put up with someone else's baggage and dealing with what looks like a ransom handoff at a dollar store or a McDonald's every weekend thanks to custody agreements.
 
They need 'rest' lol

The missing Black demonstrators in anti-Trump protests
Axios (archive.ph)
By Russell Contreras
2025-04-12 11:20:19GMT
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Photo illustration: Allie Carl/Axios. Photo: Paul Morigi and Carol Lee Rose/Getty Images & Bloomberg via Getty Images

Nearly five years after fueling the largest protest movement in American history, Black activism stands at a generational, emotional and strategic crossroads.

Why it matters: Many of the Black Americans who flooded the streets in 2020 have stepped back from the renewed anti-Trump protests — torn between the urgency of the moment and the spiritual toll of relentless, often fruitless resistance.
  • The stakes are huge: President Trump's second-term agenda is openly hostile to DEI, police reform, and the civil rights protections that have underpinned racial progress for the last half-century.
  • But prominent Black activists tell Axios that rest does not equal retreat, and that the movement is evolving — in leadership, tone and tactics — for the long fight ahead.
Driving the news: Photos from last weekend's "Hands Off!" demonstrations — where millions protested DOGE cuts, immigration raids and mass federal layoffs — show a striking shift from 2020.
  • Most participants were older and white, as seen at rallies across the country and confirmed to Axios — a stark contrast to the multiracial, Black-led protests launched in the wake of George Floyd's murder.
  • Campus protests over Trump's immigration crackdown have drawn primarily white, Latino, and Asian American students, with Black participants largely absent from the front lines.
  • In Washington, D.C., Black Lives Matter Plaza near the White House was quietly dismantled last month after funding threats from Republicans — a symbolic setback in what once was the epicenter of 2020's racial reckoning.
Zoom in: A viral video from last weekend showed Black Americans enjoying brunch in Atlanta — a historical hub of Black political power and culture — while white "Hands Off!" demonstrators marched outside.
Others told Axios they're emotionally drained and need a "break" after the demoralizing defeat of Vice President Kamala Harris, the first Black woman nominated for president by a major political party.
  • Harris won 86% of Black voters overall, but Trump improved his vote share among Black men from 19% in 2020 to 21% in 2024.
  • Some Black women saw Donald Trump's victory as a wake-up call to turn inward and prioritize self-care, especially after voters overlooked his record of racist comments for a second time.
  • "It's definitely a feeling of, 'I'm not going to push myself to the point of exhaustion,' " said Nina Smith, a strategist who has worked with the Movement for Black Lives. "The best way I can show up in this moment is to take care of myself."
The big picture: Some organizers say Black activism is shifting away from mass mobilization and toward quieter strategies: economic pressure campaigns, digital organizing and coalition-building behind the scenes.
  • Activists point to rising fears of targeted state violence under Trump, including the risk that Black protesters could be surveilled, detained or worse — a fear underscored by the treatment of legal residents caught up in immigration raids.
  • "People are trying to prepare themselves for the long haul here," said Steve Phillips, author of "How We Win the Civil War: Securing a Multiracial Democracy and Ending White Supremacy for Good."
Between the lines: The movement also is undergoing a generational shift, as older figures from the Civil Rights era pass the baton to new voices who came of age in a more diverse America.
  • Rev. Jamal Bryant, who recently met with the legendary civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson, launched a 40-day national boycott of Target over its rollback of DEI initiatives.
  • Political commentator Angela Rye has been quietly mobilizing leaders through private strategy sessions.
  • Latosha Brown, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, has emphasized the importance of rest, recognizing that Black Americans have been fighting for generations.
The other side: In text message chains and on social media, some Black advocates chided others for resting amid Trump's multi-pronged assault on DEI and other racial justice priorities.
  • They pointed out that civil rights icons Rosa Parks and Ella Baker didn't let regular defeats or roadblocks stop them from organizing and protesting.
But Rev. William Barber, who has spoken at recent rallies dominated by white participants, told Axios it's foolish to think civil rights leaders didn't need to rest while facing racial violence and planning long marches.
  • "Ella Baker knew how to have a Saturday party. She'd get down with some spades and some bid whist," Barber said, referring to card games. "Nobody is saying that people need to be constantly on the move."
  • Phillips added that rest is an important part of resistance. "When Harriet Tubman rounded up folks to flee the plantation, they didn't go without breaks for sleeping, right?"
The bottom line: Activists say the streets may feel quieter, but the fight is far from over.
 
The transformation of the US from an isolationist power, into one not only willing, but eager to get mixed up in European blood feuds has got to be the worst blow dealt to the Republic since its founding
the problem is at a certain point the US being the banker and supplier for the rest of the world like it was doing in the era right before ending isolationism wouldn't work either, communism was going to take over Europe unless someone stopped them and the US sitting on its hands while its best customers get coup'd wouldn't have bode well, the US would end up like any target once niggers moved into the neighborhood, the customers vanish and then they do too.

At a certain point someone has to go "hey, here's the rules" and while you could make an argument for setting up an americas vs everyone else style situation, eventually someone would have to play Region police. last i checked the US couldn't sell anything in the iron curtain, so it would have ended up a salesman without customers.

by the nature of commerce the US couldn't be isolationist, as japan found out in the 1850s and africans found out in the 1880s, you can't hide from globalism.
When the geriatrics loose their lich-like grip there will be a tipping point and a chain reaction of events will bring about an "economic miracle"
the problem is that those geriatrics also make up the group holding everything together, South Africa had its own version of being at the end of an 80 year cycle in the 1980s, and the nelson mandela led "economic miracle" proved much worse for the nation than the cruelest things SA did to whites before apartheid ended.

you really think taking out the old white dudes will somehow turn this ship around? look at silicon valley for how well the "next generation" is, and mind you boomers being gone won't magically mean HR starts being more generous with the hiring. in fact all signs point to it somehow being worse.
 
I just want to take a moment to say how glad I am that I can use this thread to stay mostly up-to-date on politics without having to deal with a shit-ton of trolls like on /pol/, "fellow conservative" shills like on /r/Conservative, or impatient, purity spiraling children who ignore every victory unless it's literally Trump shooting Dem politicians in the head like on Patriots.win
people still use that hellhole patriots.win?
 
The consequences of the sexual revolution and related Boomer divorce rates are what ultimately led to how broken things are now. As a male myself, I don't want to possibly get involved with some woman who might turn out to be abusive in private. I see how women present themselves and act in public, and I don't want to get involved with that, but apparently it's horrid if I as a man call out how I see women behaving in public. To add insult to injury, the population is starting to dip in the developed world because not many people aged 20-35 are having children.
That is the problem. And the conservatives are doing nothing about that. Trump can huff and puff all he wants about how he wants to make America great again, but making a nation great starts at the home. And if one half of the home front acts like idiots, then the other half won't have an incentive to stay. Or even propose, for that matter.

But apparently every young male in that ten year window needs to be demonized because they won't have kids. Well they can't find work to afford those kids or own a home of their own, and they have probably grown up seeing their older male relatives get messed up by the family court system/abusive girlfriends, and they don't want to put up with that. Stepdad generally isn't an option, either, I doubt many men want to put up with someone else's baggage and dealing with what looks like a ransom handoff at a dollar store or a McDonald's every weekend thanks to custody agreements.
Again, that's another problem with conservatives. They bitch and whine and moan that their kids aren't having kids, but have they looked at the prospects for marriage? And even if the women are willing to be good wives, the financial and home sector is completely trashed by private equity firms buying up homes and jacking up prices.

So even if you manage to get the womenfolk on the table and make a deal with them to create stable homes, how the fuck are you able to afford a home with a minimum-wage job (which is what most younger Yankees at the ideal parenting range have) or less?

This isn't the boomers' era where some dickweed with a high school diploma can provide for a family of four, or a college grad can become a millionaire. You can have all the qualifications in the world; if you don't know the right people, your job prospects are somewhere between "Gamestop store clerk" and "fry cook at McDonalds".
 
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