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Should be a wild four years.

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They need 'rest' lol

The missing Black demonstrators in anti-Trump protests
Axios (archive.ph)
By Russell Contreras
2025-04-12 11:20:19GMT
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Photo illustration: Allie Carl/Axios. Photo: Paul Morigi and Carol Lee Rose/Getty Images & Bloomberg via Getty Images

Nearly five years after fueling the largest protest movement in American history, Black activism stands at a generational, emotional and strategic crossroads.

Why it matters: Many of the Black Americans who flooded the streets in 2020 have stepped back from the renewed anti-Trump protests — torn between the urgency of the moment and the spiritual toll of relentless, often fruitless resistance.
  • The stakes are huge: President Trump's second-term agenda is openly hostile to DEI, police reform, and the civil rights protections that have underpinned racial progress for the last half-century.
  • But prominent Black activists tell Axios that rest does not equal retreat, and that the movement is evolving — in leadership, tone and tactics — for the long fight ahead.
Driving the news: Photos from last weekend's "Hands Off!" demonstrations — where millions protested DOGE cuts, immigration raids and mass federal layoffs — show a striking shift from 2020.
  • Most participants were older and white, as seen at rallies across the country and confirmed to Axios — a stark contrast to the multiracial, Black-led protests launched in the wake of George Floyd's murder.
  • Campus protests over Trump's immigration crackdown have drawn primarily white, Latino, and Asian American students, with Black participants largely absent from the front lines.
  • In Washington, D.C., Black Lives Matter Plaza near the White House was quietly dismantled last month after funding threats from Republicans — a symbolic setback in what once was the epicenter of 2020's racial reckoning.
Zoom in: A viral video from last weekend showed Black Americans enjoying brunch in Atlanta — a historical hub of Black political power and culture — while white "Hands Off!" demonstrators marched outside.
Others told Axios they're emotionally drained and need a "break" after the demoralizing defeat of Vice President Kamala Harris, the first Black woman nominated for president by a major political party.
  • Harris won 86% of Black voters overall, but Trump improved his vote share among Black men from 19% in 2020 to 21% in 2024.
  • Some Black women saw Donald Trump's victory as a wake-up call to turn inward and prioritize self-care, especially after voters overlooked his record of racist comments for a second time.
  • "It's definitely a feeling of, 'I'm not going to push myself to the point of exhaustion,' " said Nina Smith, a strategist who has worked with the Movement for Black Lives. "The best way I can show up in this moment is to take care of myself."
The big picture: Some organizers say Black activism is shifting away from mass mobilization and toward quieter strategies: economic pressure campaigns, digital organizing and coalition-building behind the scenes.
  • Activists point to rising fears of targeted state violence under Trump, including the risk that Black protesters could be surveilled, detained or worse — a fear underscored by the treatment of legal residents caught up in immigration raids.
  • "People are trying to prepare themselves for the long haul here," said Steve Phillips, author of "How We Win the Civil War: Securing a Multiracial Democracy and Ending White Supremacy for Good."
Between the lines: The movement also is undergoing a generational shift, as older figures from the Civil Rights era pass the baton to new voices who came of age in a more diverse America.
  • Rev. Jamal Bryant, who recently met with the legendary civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson, launched a 40-day national boycott of Target over its rollback of DEI initiatives.
  • Political commentator Angela Rye has been quietly mobilizing leaders through private strategy sessions.
  • Latosha Brown, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, has emphasized the importance of rest, recognizing that Black Americans have been fighting for generations.
The other side: In text message chains and on social media, some Black advocates chided others for resting amid Trump's multi-pronged assault on DEI and other racial justice priorities.
  • They pointed out that civil rights icons Rosa Parks and Ella Baker didn't let regular defeats or roadblocks stop them from organizing and protesting.
But Rev. William Barber, who has spoken at recent rallies dominated by white participants, told Axios it's foolish to think civil rights leaders didn't need to rest while facing racial violence and planning long marches.
  • "Ella Baker knew how to have a Saturday party. She'd get down with some spades and some bid whist," Barber said, referring to card games. "Nobody is saying that people need to be constantly on the move."
  • Phillips added that rest is an important part of resistance. "When Harriet Tubman rounded up folks to flee the plantation, they didn't go without breaks for sleeping, right?"
The bottom line: Activists say the streets may feel quieter, but the fight is far from over.
TL;DR Rittenhouse scared them off for now.
 
The idea that there is a lack of skilled workers in America is silly. Most White male gamers could be trained in a technical cert in months. There could be 10 million more machine operators in 3 months if the powers-that-be wanted. If WW3 started with China and we needed maximum drone production, every basement gamer would be certified and working a job in the supply chain.

If you want more engineers (mechanical, chemical, electrical, etc) just give every gamer the equivalent of an IQ test and offer a free accelerated degree if you're smart enough. Cut out all the "general education" and liberal arts requirements (or make them interesting; like a good Ancient Rome podcast). Tailor the learning to look like a tech-tree unlocked by tangible progress. Let them grind a skillset by repeatedly failing (this is how gamers get better at games). Don't have artificial semesters or beaurocracy. You'd have 1 million more engineers in a year or two.

This depressing slump always happens at the end of the 80 year cycle. When the geriatrics loose their lich-like grip there will be a tipping point and a chain reaction of events will bring about an "economic miracle". Mostly, the "miracle" is getting all the gatekeepers out of they way. And being willing to radically change systems while using the newest technology.
I agree, but the one thing we should add is at least a class where you learn "how to actually fucking cook for yourself and not eat chicken nuggets all day" and "how to do your taxes". maybe "how to fix your car" too
 
I agree, but the one thing we should add is at least a class where you learn "how to actually fucking cook for yourself and not eat chicken nuggets all day" and "how to do your taxes". maybe "how to fix your car" too
Put the classes back in? When I was at school, there were "home economics" (cooking and sowing), "personal finance" (checkbooks and taxes), and things like woodworking. I think mechanics was a vo-tech thing.
 
you really think taking out the old white dudes will somehow turn this ship around? look at silicon valley for how well the "next generation" is, and mind you boomers being gone won't magically mean HR starts being more generous with the hiring. in fact all signs point to it somehow being worse.
The model that you can run large trade deficits forever will fail. It’s like I’m trying to say regarding Apple. Moving the value added processes overseas and buying the phones back to sell them here is a revenue outflow. It doesn’t matter that the Apple Store is some retail work; yeah that’s a revenue gain for Apple, but once we’ve paid out for the phones to be made, the retail operation is revenue neutral for the US economy as a whole. Things are hollowing out. There’s not enough soup in the pot, so we’re swishing it around to make it go higher up the wall and pretending that means there’s more soup in the pot.

The international outflow is spilling soup out of the pot
 
No, he has a valid point about pasting in AI answers. They're not reliable and will make something up if they don't know. An article or verified list of "largest X in the world" is fine but "my AI says this list is right," is something people are correct to be sceptical of. I had one get some maths wrong the other day.
With things like ChatGPT if you understand how to use the tool it can be great.
It's an amazing study partner because I can be reading the material and have a specific question, and I can command the machine to explain something to me with sources I can check, I can ask it to elaborate on something in it's response, and I can't do that shit on Google nearly as easily.
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It's like a calculator. There comes a certain point where you understand how to study on your own the basic way, and eventually you outgrow the basics and can use these tools to make better progress. Cheating is obviously a different subject, but it's not like ML is useless for studies it can be really useful.
 
Most White male gamers could be trained in a technical cert in months.
Operative word: "could." Not going to happen if they don't want it.

Tell them that the median wage in manufacturing is $8/hour higher than retail, gives you the same shift consistently, plus paid vacation and employer sponsored healthcare, and a lot of the time you can sit down while you do it
They already know this.

I do agree that the economy will likely improve when the Boomers finally croak and stop holding onto every single upper-management position until they're 90 years old.
Hate to tell you this, but Gen X is going to have to continue to work at least as long as Boomers, so we're not going to give up shit once we have it.

I literally do most of my posting on here while I’m on the clock

Not today, but Monday through Friday. You’re not like, punitively oppressed to make it more sweaty.. it’s 2025. People watch movies on their tablet and shit while their machine is running
The "smart" company (somewhat ironic - I mean companies looking for efficiencies) would re-size jobs like yours so that you don't have time to do that - you'd be doing other things while x thing is running. In my world, we're not backfilling positions - when someone leaves or is terminated, the remaining employees just have to take on more.
 
I can explain the missing black demonstrators. Anti-Trump demonstrators are paid, which makes demonstrating work.
They were also bailed out of jail. With DOGE gutting their NGO rackets, they won't be able to do it as much this time. That, and Trump's new approach to Law and Order, must give them cold feet.

With things like ChatGPT if you understand how to use the tool it can be great.
It's an amazing study partner because I can be reading the material and have a specific question, and I can command the machine to explain something to me with sources I can check, I can ask it to elaborate on something in it's response, and I can't do that shit on Google nearly as easily.

It's like a calculator. There comes a certain point where you understand how to study on your own the basic way, and eventually you outgrow the basics and can use these tools to make better progress. Cheating is obviously a different subject, but it's not like ML is useless for studies it can be really useful.
It's also a good brainstorming tool. Give it a concept, or something like a riddle, and it'll extrapolate from there. It's easily led, but it does ask questions you wouldn't otherwise think of.
 
SMTCL is China's largest machine tool company and the 11th largest globally.

good luck with the warrantee
The "smart" company (somewhat ironic - I mean companies looking for efficiencies) would re-size jobs like yours so that you don't have time to do that - you'd be doing other things while x thing is running. In my world, we're not backfilling positions - when someone leaves or is terminated, the remaining employees just have to take on more.
there’s this thing called cycle time, and these other things called changeovers

You can’t be responsible for two machines being down at once.

Obviously my company is doing ok the way they are, because we have voluntary overtime available, but thanks for wishing hardship. Back at you! Blame the outsourcing

Are you an HR lady?

Adding, people age out of my job by getting vertebrae fused. One guy didn’t leave after, he’s still here and can’t tie his shoes. Don’t mistake having free moments with having a spare spine
 
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That is a perk of manufacturing jobs. Put it on the job recruitment ads.
Not a bad idea.
Free education costs almost nothing if done online. It could require a government issued spyware laptop with glowie-anti-cheat and still be cheap.
This is hopium if I've ever read it.
Hate to tell you this, but Gen X is going to have to continue to work at least as long as Boomers, so we're not going to give up shit once we have it.
Just remember: you can't take it with you.
Operative word: "could." Not going to happen if they don't want it.
Precisely. So many dudes don't want to work. They are lazy.
 
The tariffs were always a temporary thing. Eventually, they'll work out a backroom deal, and Trump will back off from the tariffs if he gets a concession from them.
I disagree. Trump wants permanent tariffs.
That, and Trump's billionaire backers do NOT like the tariffs. If they walk away from him, he'll have no support, especially if Congress turns on him come next election.
Trump does a lot of things billionaires don't like. Including the current tariffs. Trump wins elections by populism and appealing to the actual voters.
That is the problem. And the conservatives are doing nothing about that.
The Neocons in the current Republican party will not maintain their positions with the old conservative playbook. The party of Mitch McConnell is dead.
Again, that's another problem with conservatives. They bitch and whine and moan that their kids aren't having kids, but have they looked at the prospects for marriage? And even if the women are willing to be good wives, the financial and home sector is completely trashed by private equity firms buying up homes and jacking up prices.
These issues will drive voting patterns and realign the parties.

Trump's MAGA party is not the Neoconservative party. Liz Chaney backed Kamala Harris. Trump is anti-war.
 
and electronics etc were not exempted but were always intended to have a 20% tariff on them which is what they have currently.
You're missing the recent news, then.
I'm talking about this:





Trump exempts phones, computers, other electronics from reciprocal tariffs

The Trump administration is exempting electronics such as phones, computers and other electronics from the “reciprocal” tariffs imposed on other nations, including China.

Guidance posted by Customs and Border Protection, which collects duties on imports, indicated roughly 20 products would be excluded from the tariffs. Those include smartphones, computers, routers and semiconductor chips.


Edit: My question has already been answered here:
 
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It’s amazing how often you’ll hear this from the mouthes of people who sit on extra cushions for their office chair, in an air conditioned room, with Facebook open in the other tab
If you think you can solve the NEET crisis, go right ahead. I won't stop you, but I absolutely will wait impatiently until you solve it.
 
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