GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

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Flaming Dumpster said:
I'd still like a newer laptop but there really hasn't been anything compelling. The newer AMD chips aren't enough of a leap forward, NVIDIA mobile chips are a joke and the 2560x1600 165 Hz display is still perfectly fine.
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I take it that is either 6-core 5600H or 8-core 5800H and 3060 (6 GB) or 3070 (8 GB)?

The next mainstream AMD APU should have up to 12 unified Zen 6 cores, with at least a mild IPC boost over Zen 5, and decent efficiency (TSMC N2P). But you can ignore CPU since everything new will be better than a 5600H/5800H and good 'nuff. It's all about the graphics.

For dGPU-less, Strix Halo may be faster than a 3070m but maybe not by that much. Medusa Halo is likely not coming before 2H 2027. I wouldn't expect too much out of Medusa Point if Strix Point is in the 3050 ballpark.

If you get an Nvidia dGPU next time, you want more VRAM. 5070m is amazingly still at 8 GB. Maybe they will come up with refreshed variants using 3 GB GDDR7 modules later.

My expectation is that after putting 40 series and 50 series on the same "4N" node, 60 series will be on a new node. 3 GB GDDR7 will also be common. So that generation should be much more impressive than the current crap. Nvidia will at least make a 12 GB 6070 mobile dGPU with much better performance than what you have now.
 
This story about a fanless 300W "mini" PC reminded me to check on that recently reported Frore AirJet competitor, Ventiva:
PCWorld: Ventiva’s fanless laptop cooler wins Intel and Dell over (archive)

AirJet hype has died down since it's unclear if it can scale well enough, so it's nice to see a different technology enter the "fanless air cooling" space.

  • 5060 Ti 16 GB may have a $429 MSRP, 8 GB at $379, but street pricing will be higher and launch supply may be lower than the 5070.
  • 9060 XT 16 GB ($329-379), 8GB ($269-299), possibly launching April 24 or a little later. Performance in between 4060 Ti and 7700 XT. May lack hardware encoders. 9060 non-XT not mentioned by sources. 9050 XT is possible but unconfirmed. 9070 GRE will have 48 CUs, 12 GB (18.5+ Gbps).
  • He's not willing to double down on a 9070 XT "Ultimate Edition" yet.

ASUS Debuts 610 Hz ROG XG248Q5G-P Monitor For eSports Gamers, ROG XG32UCG With Fast-IPS Panel & Dual-Mode Support Up To 320Hz

MSI Is Expected To Utilize AMD’s Ryzen AI Z2 Extreme APU For Their Next “Claw” Gaming Handheld, Potentially Ditching Intel - lulz
 
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The Ugly One said:
4060 Tis are going for $600 on Newegg, shipped direct from Chinese scalpers. I guess nobody should ever expect to pay MSRP for a GPU again.
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NVIDIA RTX 4070 To Be Discontinued In January, RTX 4060 & RTX 4060 Ti Going To Reach EOL In Q1 2025
Nvidia could be drastically reducing RTX 4060 GPU supply right now – another heavy hint that the RTX 5060 is imminent
Goodbye Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060? Popular gaming GPU production reportedly halted
According to the latest gossip on the tech grapevine, Nvidia has just called time on producing the AD106 GPU used to make its Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 and 4060 Ti graphics cards. The company is reportedly freeing up production lines so that it can produce as many of its new RTX 5000 GPUs as possible in preparation for the rumored launch in January 2025.
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They are skittish of ever having a surplus amount of GPUs ever again. So they stop production even before the new one comes out.
 
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4090 Chad said:
I’ve recently been testing my phone out with steam link and I’m pretty convinced now that it’s superior to owning a a steam deck or rog ally. Just get one of those backbone controllers and you’ll have a superior screen to any hand held as well as good battery life due to cloud rendering. As long as you have a decent home internet connection and your client side internet isn’t shit it’s been pretty impressive imo. It should be even better once I set up Apollo and Artemis based on other people’s experiences as well.
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Better yet, set up Apollo/Moonlight on a laptop that doesn't necessarily have a strong GPU but strong battery life and now you can basically do remote work and play on your PC for hours without draining the battery. Obviously whether you're using Steam Play or you have a Wireguard tunnel back home, the main bottleneck from your home network will be the upload speed.
 
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Rebuilt my Dad's PC last week. This is a upgrade from what I built for him in high school. This was due to Windows 10 dying this year. The upgrade goes as follows:
G Skill Trident DDR5 6400 32gb
2TB Kingston Fury M.2 boot drive (bought for durability)
Intel 12700K, doubles as the graphics
Thermaltake air cooler
ASRock Z790 ATX board
Windows 11 Home

All of this is hooked into previous parts, like a 1tb WD Blue HDD, Asus blu-ray drive, the previous case and fans, 850w power supply, etc. So far it runs like a dream, fast as fuck.

Technically I can bump the ram up to 6800 if I really wanted. Though that would be a waste since it's a office PC, and I was really just looking for a way to use up some parts like the core from my last build. Overall it went great, booted right up.

Edit 1: If I do get a graphics card for it, it's going to be something like a Intel B580 or B570. Want to keep the Team Blue theme going. That probably won't happen, but it's fully ready to become a gaming rig. Also thinking of a Samsung 990 pro M.2 for a game drive if that happens.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
Edit 1: If I do get a graphics card for it, it's going to be something like a Intel B580 or B570. Want to keep the Team Blue theme going. That probably won't happen, but it's fully ready to become a gaming rig.
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Yeah, punish your father with an Arc graphics card.

If it's for le office, the iGPU should be sufficient. Can play Skyrim, decode AV1, whatever.
 
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There's a comment from "Remedy staff," and I started to smell gayop. So, I punched his channel into Wayback Machine, and there's a snapshot from 2023 showing that the channel has the same name there. It seems it's a legitimate staff member.

Considering Jani Pääjärvi liked the video, it adds credibility to Threat Interactive in terms that he knows what he is talking about.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Yeah, punish your father with an Arc graphics card.
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Lol fair.
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
If it's for le office, the iGPU should be sufficient. Can play Skyrim, decode AV1, whatever.
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I'm actually surprised how good it looks tbh. Intel UHD Graphics 770 is actually really kino at 1080p just websurfing and handling dual monitors. It's better than the EVGA 1030 he had previously that was only there because the Ryzen 2700X on the last rig had no graphics, and the 1030 was cheap as fuck.

Edit: alternate cards if that happen, doubtful but might, could be a 5060, or if we're going full poverty tier, a 3060. Don't see it happening soon, but it's something I see in the future possibly. It has a gen 5 slot that could handle a 50 series.
 
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Speaking of Apollo/Moonlight, I tested it for a few minutes at work on my laptop just to see how it runs. Connected to work WiFi, Wireguard VPN to home, home connection upload caps out at ~60Mbps. Virtually zero input lag, perfect streaming performance. As good as it was on home WiFi. My Wireguard server is also directly on the router, and I can use it to WoL my PC, so this is a rock solid solution with practically no weak points that could be abused by bad actors. Just my laptop and my home network, all under my command and no one else's.

You can also use it for remote work but IMO using bog standard RDP is better for that, Apollo/Moonlight doesn't pass most keystrokes to the remote connection, so if you want to Alt+Tab, run task manager or use the same software with the same keybinds as on your laptop, it will send the keystrokes to the host OS, not the remote OS. RDP doesn't have issues with it.
 
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hog cranking frog said:
Moonlight/Sunshine are game changers. I'm really glad to see it getting some love. For those of you without Nvidia cards, Sunshine is the equivalent. I ran cat6 thru my place so the gaming PC is like a central server. I can play lag free from any screen.
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Yes I have Apollo/moonlight setup. I have A gigabit down but my upload speed is only around 35Mbps, so kind of bottlenecked there. Regardless, it has been impressive when I am off my local network and somewhere that has a decent connection; plays my games with manageable input latency.
 
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There's a comment from "Remedy staff," and I started to smell gayop. So, I punched his channel into Wayback Machine, and there's a snapshot from 2023 showing that the channel has the same name there. It seems it's a legitimate staff member.

Considering Jani Pääjärvi liked the video, it adds credibility to Threat Interactive in terms that he knows what he is talking about.
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TI is himself a gayop so it's gayops all the way down.
 
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti full specs confirmed through GPU-Z leak
We’d like to remind our readers that tomorrow is the review embargo date, which means you’ll start seeing full coverage of board partner cards. As far as we know, there are no Founders Edition series for the RTX 5060 Ti. Additionally, while the RTX 5060 Ti comes in both 16GB and 8GB configurations, NVIDIA has ensured that only 16GB reviews will be published tomorrow. If you come across any 8GB reviews, it means those reviewers went to great lengths to obtain them ahead of time.
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RDNA 4’s Raytracing Improvements
 
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WULULULULU said:
The price is gonna be fucked I can bet.
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NVIDIA announces GeForce RTX 5060 Ti at $429 (16GB) and $379 (8GB), $299 RTX 5060 launches next month

It's official, and the MSRPs match what MLID leaked the other day. $429 is actually "good" for Nvidia's entry-level 16 GB card. But he also said supply would be WORSE than the 5070, which is sad if true. You could regard them as fake MSRPs either way.

5060 8 GB at $299. Nvidia is allergic to selling the bottom bitch 60 card for less. It's widely anticipated that there will be a 12 GB version of that card within a year. They should do the same for the 5060 Ti 8 GB, really.
 
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