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Many already have. Apple has, TMSC, Honda, need I go on?
I don't understand why people keep bringing up TSMC in the context of Tariffs enabling US manufacturing. All this shit you mentioned was long before Tariffs became a shiny new toy and was the result of other government backed industrialization efforts.
 
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Most of the Elegoo Mars and 4K resin printers are what toy companies use now for rapid prototyping, topology of assets in models are then sent to CAD based plates. Most of these are aluminum (very common metal in states) and are carved to the decimeter just as the treasury does with Coin Minting. Then your typical ABS and other plastics are actually made here as well, but they are expensive because we haven't had a large enough volume of yield to reduce costs (yet).
Who is buying toys? Children have exactly one toy (their iPad), I don't know what other market could exist for them.
 
I don't understand why people keep bringing up TSMC in the context of Tariffs enabling US manufacturing. All this shit you mentioned was long before Tariffs became a shiny new toy and was the result of other government backed industrialization efforts.
The expansions to the plant were directly due to Trump. They knew tarrifs were coming. They want to keep their operations in the US fully to shield themselves for that.
 
To be fair if it is better for shareholders for them to not build factories, then by law they are compelled to do that. A big win would be repealing the precedent set by Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. let a company invest in itself over having to pay shareholders, yeah it'd affect me as well as I benefit from them putting shareholders first but I'd rather the company I invested in still exist beyond my lifetime.
Even at that, they don’t HAVE to build the factory. They can put bids for subcontractors and fill up the struggling mom and pop type places, for a lot of things

To be crystal clear I’m not implying there are a ton of chip builders around, even though companies like teledyne and teradyne used to do some of that, but I’m saying there are small machine shops in industrial parks all over that still often have mills and lathes they don’t have the work to hire someone to use, and there’s a metal yard not far from where I live that has a gantry crane i haven’t seen move since I’ve lived here, and generally there’s just a ton of idle capacity
 
They knew tarrifs were coming.
This is pure speculation. We realized how fucked we were in 2020 when chips stopped flowing out of Taiwan. Taiwan realized how fucked they were when China began seriously rumbling about retaking the island again. They started building in 2021.
 
Why are you such an insistent doomer about it? Like I’ve mentioned before, declining manufacturing hurts wage growth across the entire economy, which you can see by comparing that in 1980 the median household income was $20k and the median home price was $40k. Now the median household income is $80k and the median home price is $400k, so home price outgrew wages 2.5 times

Nobody is going to draft YOU to work in a factory, so how does this effect you so personally?
Thats not true if I had executive power I’d draft feminists and other members of the laptop class to work in factories for the lulz.
 
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Right but don’t tell them that we want them to suffah

They’ll try to get out of it
Slap up a few "Rosie the Riveter" posters on high school and college campus bulletin boards and make women think they're distinctly unwelcome or considered incapable or unwilling to do that type of work and they'll start insisting on factory jobs just because they've been told they can't/won't/aren't wanted. The Rosie poster is to remind them that it used to be cool.
 
The more important point is that reshoring manufacturing is not going to employ nearly the number of people that seems to be believed. The only real bump in low-skilled labor will be in construction - building all the plants - and that won't be done without firm commitments that policy won't change again 10 minutes from now. Billion-dollar plants require decades to pay off and if this is just short-term posturing nobody will put up that money.
I see your reading comprehension is shit friend. I said that the co-bot required a worker to load and inspect its work. It's doesn't replace a worker is supplants having an experienced welder with having literally anyone willing to work with it while they hone their own skills. When you're short on welders like the US is you should be begging to have these machines spread far and wide to offer more jobs to people who need an entry point.
 
The ones that can wait out Trump are in the minority, many companies can't do that.
That's the problem. Many American businesses will go under soon after Trump's full tariff regime resume later this year unless domestic manufacturing can be brought up to task before then, an implausible task.
 
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That's the problem. Many American businesses will go bankrupt shortly after Trump's full tariff regime resume later this year unless domestic manufacturing can be brought up to task before then, an implausible task.
It’s going to be a necessary task. China took the work by hostile means, and this is not sustainable. You want to build them a bigger navy?

Also as far as how beneficial it is, how much did the price of your meds go down since China started making them? Oh yeah, they went up
 
I see your reading comprehension is shit friend. I said that the co-bot required a worker to load and inspect its work. It's doesn't replace a worker is supplants having an experienced welder with having literally anyone willing to work with it while they hone their own skills. When you're short on welders like the US is you should be begging to have these machines spread far and wide to offer more jobs to people who need an entry point.
I was essentially agreeing with you so I'm not sure where you're coming from. The purpose of those robots is to replace multiple humans apiece. That's why they exist. Five humans maintaining a few million dollars worth of robots replaces a hundred or more manual laborers.
 
That table-mounted robot welding arm in the guy's pic is well over 6 figures. For one. An industrial CNC machine can cost a million. For one.

It's not 1955 any more.
Retard, co-bot's cost like 20-30k. A miller welding robotic cell costs like 120k used. Stop coping about a topic you're really poorly informed on.
 
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Who is buying toys? Children have exactly one toy (their iPad), I don't know what other market could exist for them.
For as long as their parents keep paying for the apps and phone they have a pacifier but not a innovation tool. Kids don't use iPads like adults. They watch silly bs from other creators, mimic them and become robots to trends. Toys inspire creativity and imagination, which is why zoomer liberals have none because they were raised as trend followers not innovators from same "iPads" at age 5.

Long run, kids without some tangible way to express themselves into something they love or make will continue to make them robots. Even before Hasbro and LEGO became adult oriented to Soy-Boys, the companies use to know that creativity was key as by this original quote by Company in 70's.

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(And before you go woke trash on Doll House quote, LEGO bricks were first developed as design and architecture. Which I believe the company is incentivizing that a boy may be prone to building a house which may inspire him to be into drafting or construction.)
 
Retard, co-bot's cost like 20-30k. A miller welding robotic cell costs like 120k used. Stop coping about a topic you're really poorly informed on.
The specific robot in that pic is a Vectis Cobalt Welder. They cost $95k-$140k apiece. I looked it up before posting, something you should've done. I am a retard though if that makes you feel any better.
 
That's the problem. Many American businesses will go under soon after Trump's full tariff regime resume later this year unless domestic manufacturing can be brought up to task before then, an implausible task.
I keep seeing people bring this point up but at the same time these businesses are mostly stimulating the Chinese economy because they buy from and sell crap from China. I don't really care if those businesses go under because they don't do anything for me.
 
Not only that but I'm all in favor of reducing luxurious models/trims from non-luxury car brands that we can go without. Maybe that'll get the consumers to quit wasting money on shit they don't need, like any F-150 that goes above the Lariat name and have trims like the King Ranch be a limited time offer.
Are you telling people to buy a BMW instead of a Luxury Truck they don't use for truck stuff?
 
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