US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

General Trump Banner.png

Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Stephen Miller was already chudding out in newspapers at age 16.

View attachment 7222821
View attachment 7222822

Miller cut off a childhood friend for being mexican, told mexican classmates to speak English, and showed up to school meetings to attack their fight against racism (then immediately left). He also reportedly enjoys seeing pictures of families separated at the Southern Border.

View attachment 7222824

View attachment 7222825

View attachment 7222827

View attachment 7222832

He complained about having a mexican maid drive him to school because it made him look poor.
View attachment 7222837
Based. Chuds are in Cuntrul. Trust the Plun!
 
I would love to know what’s fiscally responsible about what Trump is doing rn with trade. It seems like a total disaster and will probably lead to irreparable damage.
How exactly has the trade stuff been a total disaster with irreparable damage? It's been less than a month. Please explain. I'm not being sarcastic and would like someone on the other side of Trump to explain how the economy is now in the shitter, because the numbers don't reflect this argument.
 
How exactly has the trade stuff been a total disaster with irreparable damage? It's been less than a month. Please explain. I'm not being sarcastic and would like someone on the other side of Trump to explain how the economy is now in the shitter, because the numbers don't reflect this argument.
The only "irreparable damage" seems to be to business owners whose organizations solely exist to import cheap goods from China.
 
I really don’t understand the Stephen Smith thing. To me, he was always just the black guy who looked like a leprechaun while inserting politics into ESPN. He’s just a flash in the pan who is shooting his shot way too early. There are real contenders like Shapiro, Whitmer, and Newsome out there. They know the time to gain momentum as a candidate is not for another couple of years.

Newsom already crashed and burned trying to reform himself for the national stage, tanking him to the left for no gains on the right. Whitmer has baggage from the FBI plot and her handling of Covid, better than Newsom but still a bad foot to start on. Shapiro is the Ex IDF, absolutely poison for the Dems right now.

They shill for AOC because they have literally no one else left to shill. Are they going to try Pete Buttigiege or Corey Booker again? The DNC suffocated 20 years of development in service of HER turn. I'm afraid Ivy league grads who hate Israel and love browns are their main demographic to recruit from now. Well, that and the nogs, but the darkies hooting on a stage doesn't get votes.
AOC isn't being shilled as their new candidate. AOC is being shilled to replace Sanders as the faux prog tool that scams the tankies and then gives all their money to the establishment.
 
Human rights from its inception is a religious concept *insert Sargon meme* and that without God human rights is a meaningless concept
The concept of human rights is harmful nonsense.

It's nonsense because the language of human rights is taken to be enforceable but by its nature it makes practical enforcement impossible: when two absolute rights conflict which holds and which yields? Once you start getting into the real trade offs you're not talking about human rights anymore.

It’s harmful because "human rights" are taken to trump all other concerns. In practice they're used to benefit one particular group while ignoring the interests of everyone else.

Anyone who says "human rights" to you intends to hurt you.
 
Interesting personal story. I was at a monthly meeting for a local charitable club last night and a guy I barely know comes up after and starts asking me about the tariffs, clearly trying to get someone to assure him that he's not crazy for liking them. I try to not take a hard stance since I don't want an argument, but it turns into a full on confession that he's a dem (no mention of who he voted for this time, but a Biden and Obama voter) and how tired he is of the anger and hatred from "his side" and how Republicans are taking key Democrat issues from them followed by soft praise for Trump and the R's.
Then everybody clapped
It's just crazy seeing it in real life, not online and I guess all of the other former Dems I know were "former" when I met them.
It's so cool that Albert Einstein attends the same charity club as you
 
With the left not-meme-posting about killing Trump, it has made me wonder just how dumb they actually are. Because if they really wanted to end MAGA they would be looking at Vance.

Regardless, if their wildest dreams came true the unintended consequences would likely sweep the entire left off of the board for a generation.
They aren't dumb, just overconfident. They've had 15, arguably even 20 years of cultural dominance that's just now ending and they don't know how to process it all, particularly their most radical members/footsoldiers.

I know i'm a broken record on this but it's an exact mirror image of what I saw happen to the post 9/11 patriot zeitgeist and the bush right.
 
The concept of human rights is harmful nonsense.

It's nonsense because the language of human rights is taken to be enforceable but by its nature it makes practical enforcement impossible: when two absolute rights conflict which holds and which yields? Once you start getting into the real trade offs you're not talking about human rights anymore.

It’s harmful because "human rights" are taken to trump all other concerns. In practice they're used to benefit one particular group while ignoring the interests of everyone else.

Anyone who says "human rights" to you intends to hurt you.
The really sad part is that "human rights" have now become another set of rules for people to game.
 
Stephen Miller was already chudding out in newspapers at age 16.

View attachment 7222821
View attachment 7222822

Miller cut off a childhood friend for being mexican, told mexican classmates to speak English, and showed up to school meetings to attack their fight against racism (then immediately left). He also reportedly enjoys seeing pictures of families separated at the Southern Border.

View attachment 7222824

View attachment 7222825

View attachment 7222827

View attachment 7222832

He complained about having a mexican maid drive him to school because it made him look poor.
View attachment 7222837
Holy shit, I know who I want for Vance's VP.
 
The concept of human rights is harmful nonsense.

It's nonsense because the language of human rights is taken to be enforceable but by its nature it makes practical enforcement impossible: when two absolute rights conflict which holds and which yields? Once you start getting into the real trade offs you're not talking about human rights anymore.

It’s harmful because "human rights" are taken to trump all other concerns. In practice they're used to benefit one particular group while ignoring the interests of everyone else.

Anyone who says "human rights" to you intends to hurt you.
bait used to be believable :/
 
The really sad part is that "human rights" have now become another set of rules for people to game.
It's also a lot of, "I think I should have it, therefore it should be a right." Or intangible desires that are entirely unenforceable.

Look at what people demand are rights, particularly when they pertain to certain groups. You get abortion, compelled speech and DEI. These aren't necessities for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but damn it, they sure make people feel good.
 
The concept of human rights is harmful nonsense.

It's nonsense because the language of human rights is taken to be enforceable but by its nature it makes practical enforcement impossible: when two absolute rights conflict which holds and which yields? Once you start getting into the real trade offs you're not talking about human rights anymore.

It’s harmful because "human rights" are taken to trump all other concerns. In practice they're used to benefit one particular group while ignoring the interests of everyone else.

Anyone who says "human rights" to you intends to hurt you.
I hate that term, because whenever morons say that they never mean the blind, deaf or other disabilities. Like that actually matter. Not just totally fine people who are ever so slightly on the spectrum and wish for praise.
 
The concept of human rights is harmful nonsense.

It's nonsense because the language of human rights is taken to be enforceable but by its nature it makes practical enforcement impossible: when two absolute rights conflict which holds and which yields? Once you start getting into the real trade offs you're not talking about human rights anymore.

It’s harmful because "human rights" are taken to trump all other concerns. In practice they're used to benefit one particular group while ignoring the interests of everyone else.

Anyone who says "human rights" to you intends to hurt you.
All the legal stuff sorts of hits reality the way negative rights do.

How many bullshit proposals show up in congressional legislation? Ok, you’re going to fix healthcare by giving yourself a shit ton of our money without even a referendum, call it democracy, and the result is going to end up being we have less doctors because doctors don’t want to be slaves? Lol.

I wish people would read about and bring back the enumerated powers act, which was an Obama era tea party republican proposal that congress should cite the constitutional authority they’re claiming that grants them the authority to pass the bill
 
bait used to be believable :/
Over the last 100 years nearly all of American exceptionalist propaganda was centered on "human rights". It doesn't matter if 100,000 people OD from fent, I'm free to speak my mind about it. This is all despite intel agencies doing all kinds of horrible things to anti-war and other political groups. Human rights are something that's easy to say, "the government won't go after you for what you say" They'll just entrap you, debank you, fire you, ruin your personal life, and if that doesn't work they'll assassinate you. It's much harder for a government to promise a base line life or a chance at a better life. Personally I think we should hold our government to the standard of both. Especially of our intel agencies.
 
Unrelated to the current discussion, but can someone tell me when keeping track of your personal documents and records stopped being a normal part of being an adult? So many people complaining they can’t vote because they lost their shit or let it expire. It wasn’t a problem when you got your driver’s license and it shouldn’t be a problem now. Figure it out. If you can’t figure it out, you are the type of person who will vote for whoever will give you the most for doing the least, and I don’t want your input anyway.
 
Back