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[Red Dragon]

So in a sense, I think I get what the studio was trying to prove in how AI should be used, but the animation community (mainly in the west) will not or refuse to look at it as such.

It's the same cycle 3D animation endured. We've gone from Beast Wars during the 90s to Pixar nowadays. Tech midwits have no patience and act like cattle. Give it time: the day AI is developed enough to make animation cheaper, the entire industry will flip this dumb position.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

It's the same cycle 3D animation endured.

I don't remember 3D animation being criticized as "taking our jerbs", though I don't know where to look for archived criticism when computers were coming into play. As far as I can tell, artists and animators were actually excited about playing around with new technology.

I do know there were actors (Tom Hanks especially) shitting their pants when Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within came out in thinking digital actors were going to take their jobs, until they realized that CGI modeling can pretty much sculpt their faces without looking too real and motion-capture was viable. I see a lot of parallels between that and today's animators, except today's animators are a bunch of whiny spoiled brats who can't write worth a damn without inserting gay tranny POC shit who totally deserve to get their job taken from them.

 

[BiggestKai]

I swear, Vigilante is basically "what if we make the premise of Hero Academia actually good". Every character is a better version of the original cast, Knuckleduster especially is fucking awesome with being hobo Batman.

I cannot wait for Captain Commando Celeberity to show up. I love his arc.

Speaking of hero "anime" currently airing, there's this multi asian country project called To Be Hero X currently airing.
Plotwise it looks to be a bit of Tiger and Bunny where both the heroes and villains are just superpowered advertisement platforms. Weirdly enough their powers come from emotions, superheroes appear to have their powers stem from the fact that their social credit trust score is high. I like the humor and it's a cool world they inhabit but the main attraction here is the animation

As the trailer shows there's a bunch of animation styles that they mix and match from. Based on the first two episodes the main style is this attempt at Arcane's 3D animationit's not as well produced but it's a really fun style to watch since it's very vibrant for speaking and lower impact action scenes)

But they also jump between a few more styles for backstory and big fights. Based on the trailer there's still more art styles to go through and a fuckton of characters that still haven't actually been introduced.

I really like it, makes it feel like a cool anthology and nothing felt poorly animated or boring to watch. If I had complaint it's that the fight scene at the end of episode 2 felt a bit spazzy. Also I think this is mainly a chinese production due to the names.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Watched that Twins Hinahima with a friend and I feel like all of the complainers have missed what the studio was trying to go for because they only read the background to the production and made up their minds before watching it. It's obvious that an AI wrote the script (and it's meh), and did majority of the animation, and I think it went through archives of the voice-actresses' recordings to splice them together, but you can definitely see that there were still actual animators involved for clean up. It was obvious as soon as the girls enter further into the city and it literally melted into AI slop while the girls themselves remained relatively the same, unless there was multiple overlays of AI input edited together in post (which is likely). There was careful consideration involved, and I can appreciate that.

So in a sense, I think I get what the studio was trying to prove in how AI should be used, but the animation community (mainly in the west) will not or refuse to look at it as such. It's okay to say it's still too soon to use AI or to just put limitations on it, but it's absolutely insane to just outright reject it because you're literally afraid it will take your jobs when it's just a tool no different from your drawing utensils (traditional or digital). If one of the goals was to help cut down on production time so an animator doesn't have to feel like they need to do crunch time, I think that's a goal worth pursuing.

Also weirdly enough, the animation made me think of early-2000s web animation. I don't know if that was intentional like the rest of it, just that it was weirdly nostalgic?

I should go rest my eyes for a bit, though... I dunno if it's an aftereffect from the anime or if it's just from writing all this text with the current theme.

I'm just waiting for more advancement to make full 3D Satoshi Urushihara style games. Let's see the trannies seethe about an art style that no one makes, including the creator himself.

 

[liam dees]

It's the same cycle 3D animation endured. We've gone from Beast Wars during the 90s to Pixar nowadays. Tech midwits have no patience and act like cattle. Give it time: the day AI is developed enough to make animation cheaper, the entire industry will flip this dumb position.

This is the one time I make the bet that Western animation studios would adopt AI animation faster than anime production studios, whether they realize how much current animation software utilizes AI or not. Simply because current American Hollywood "sitcom/writer comedy" animation is so formulaic and its structure and style so repetitive that AI can handle that way easier than the current anime production pipeline.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

Speaking of hero "anime" currently airing, there's this multi asian country project called To Be Hero X currently airing.
Plotwise it looks to be a bit of Tiger and Bunny where both the heroes and villains are just superpowered advertisement platforms. Weirdly enough their powers come from emotions, superheroes appear to have their powers stem from the fact that their social credit trust score is high. I like the humor and it's a cool world they inhabit but the main attraction here is the animation

I'm not sure of the continuity, but there were previous seasons. The first one had a guy that turns into an ugly bastard with superpowers and Nabeshin of Excel Saga supervised the Chinese/Japanese production.

 

[Slap47]

I'm not sure of the continuity, but there were previous seasons. The first one had a guy that turns into an ugly bastard with superpowers and Nabeshin of Excel Saga supervised the Chinese/Japanese production.
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That show was very underrated. Goofy show that did not try to be anything else that felt distinctly Chinese in its humor.

 

[Trollblade69]

Welp, 4chan is kill for the forseeable rest of the month. So now I wonder if everyone on it will just migrate to Reddit like the two-faced liars they are or if they'll invade other anime forums to spam their waifu folders.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'm not sure of the continuity, but there were previous seasons. The first one had a guy that turns into an ugly bastard with superpowers and Nabeshin of Excel Saga supervised the Chinese/Japanese production.
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Nabeshin needs to come back.

 

[Slap47]

Welp, 4chan is kill for the forseeable rest of the month. So now I wonder if everyone on it will just migrate to Reddit like the two-faced liars they are or if they'll invade other anime forums to spam their waifu folders.

Kiwifarms will become the new Jerusalem.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Every day, I understand why the term “tourist” was used for people like this. It really shows the difference between watching flavor of the month anime that’s here today and gone tomorrow, and real good anime series that filters out those that are only here for cheap shots with no replay value.

The point I’m making here is leave Frieren alone.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I also want to post that Reiji Miyajima, the man that created Rent-A-Girlfriend, just celebrated the fact that his other creation The Shiunji Family Children recently was adapted as an anime last week. He drew this special art that shows the characters from RAG posing with Shiunji’s “sisters”/(alleged) love interests:

 

[Endless Torment]

Kiwifarms will become the new Jerusalem.

Truly what this site needs is enough outspoken anime fans so we can join in on site wide schisms like the different flavors of politics, gender wars,and so on, but this time the anime hate threads won't be as performative or hug boxy.

Every day, I understand why the term “tourist” was used for people like this. It really shows the difference between watching flavor of the month anime that’s here today and gone tomorrow, and real good anime series that filters out those that are only here for cheap shots with no replay value.

The point I’m making here is leave Frieren alone.

Death of forums, tumblr, older 4chan, and so on means no one is forced to deal with elitist bullying or actually has to put in any effort to discuss anime and manga. It feels like there are way more casual fans discussing anime and manga now rather than hardcore fans or even moderate fans nowadays.
With anime being main stream you also have people feel like they need to jump onto whatever is popular now to be part of the crowd.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

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Every day, I understand why the term “tourist” was used for people like this. It really shows the difference between watching flavor of the month anime that’s here today and gone tomorrow, and real good anime series that filters out those that are only here for cheap shots with no replay value.

The point I’m making here is leave Frieren alone.

Frieren was very much flavour of the month. And while the meme is funny, anime is just as guilty for doing the dindu demons shtick.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Frieren was very much flavour of the month. And while the meme is funny, anime is just as guilty for doing the dindu demons shtick.

That part might be true, but I do remember the people that tweeted out things like this did not have the same consistency when trying to do “media literacy” over Goblin Slayer when the infamous rape scene was shown in the beginning in the series.

Though, that just might be me overthinking it.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

That part might be true, but I do remember the people that tweeted out things like this did not have the same consistency when trying to do “media literacy” over Goblin Slayer when the infamous rape scene was shown in the beginning in the series.

Though, that just might be me overthinking it.

A lot of TDS went by from when GS aired. Plus Goblin fans were more limited to freaky fetishists.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Frieren was very much flavour of the month.

Disagree there, the pacing alone put it above the freak of the week isekai schlock of the month. Imagine letting scenes breathe....

Demon posters are truly worse than bug posters. Frieren is probably the best animu in years for returning demons to what they actually are - the antithesis of the good, using man's nature against him. But I don't get shocked by bad western takes since we've been steeped in the Amazog generation of nigger "elves" and "Sauron was just misunderstood" propaganda. What's funny is that in Frieren, even Himmel has a moment of "giving demons a shot" because of his nature, it doesn't end well. And how fitting is it that the Demon's chief weapon against humans - is their deceptive words and lies. Kill all demons, especially (((western))) ones.

 

[HexFag]

Disagree there, the pacing alone put it above the freak of the week isekai schlock of the month. Imagine letting scenes breathe....

Demon posters are truly worse than bug posters. Frieren is probably the best animu in years for returning demons to what they actually are - the antithesis of the good, using man's nature against him. But I don't get shocked by bad western takes since we've been steeped in the Amazog generation of nigger "elves" and "Sauron was just misunderstood" propaganda. What's funny is that in Frieren, even Himmel has a moment of "giving demons a shot" because of his nature, it doesn't end well. And how fitting is it that the Demon's chief weapon against humans - is their deceptive words and lies. Kill all demons, especially (((western))) ones.
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I think you mistakenly conflate "flavor of the month" with being bad. Frieren is absolutely FOTM, I mean hell it was EVERYWHERE when it was airing; It's also a very solid anime adaptation. These terms aren't mutually exclusive.

There absolutely are FOTM shows that are shit, just take a look at Solo Leveling for example.

 

[Trollblade69]

Demon posters are truly worse than bug posters. Frieren is probably the best animu in years for returning demons to what they actually are - the antithesis of the good, using man's nature against him. But I don't get shocked by bad western takes since we've been steeped in the Amazog generation of nigger "elves" and "Sauron was just misunderstood" propaganda. What's funny is that in Frieren, even Himmel has a moment of "giving demons a shot" because of his nature, it doesn't end well. And how fitting is it that the Demon's chief weapon against humans - is their deceptive words and lies. Kill all demons, especially (((western))) ones.

Stupid rants like this are why I hate Frieren. It and its fans invent arguments nobody intelligent has ever had, and declare victory over them.

 

[vern]

I think you mistakenly conflate "flavor of the month" with being bad. Frieren is absolutely FOTM, I mean hell it was EVERYWHERE when it was airing; It's also a very solid anime adaptation. These terms aren't mutually exclusive.

There absolutely are FOTM shows that are shit, just take a look at Solo Leveling for example.

I think the real smell test for FOTM is how fast people lose interest be it in the west where discussions and posts all but dry up, or in japan where you stop seeing merchandise and collabs with almost anything they can think of.
For Frieren it'll be a case of if season 2 is as talked about as season 1, which assuming they don't pull one of three things will probably be just as popular

• Madhouse doesn't dumps it on a different studio and ends up being a massive downgrade like OPM.
• It They take years between season and start doing the same bullshit AoT did with its "final season"
• They don't lock it behind a stupid release schedule, how many people are gonna be pissed if they decide to batch release SBR again like they did with stone ocean
  

I might put money on Solo Leveling being a lot less talked about when it gets another season (it probably will for better or worse) since it seemed like it already lost some momentum between season 1 and 2, and that was in spite of people who read the manwha trying to hype up that some of the best fights in the series was going to be in season 2, and previous manwha adaptations haven't aged well (anyone remember when Tower of God was the most popular show of the season and was labeled the beginning of gook webtoons taking over anime).