US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Purple Francis]

No, they'll work twice as long while doing a quarter as much with a tenth the quality in output for half the price.

I don't see any white guys picking produce. Most the truckers running ghost codrivers got turbans. Can't speak for other industries but in logistics they want some brown skin that can't speak English that'll thank you for the opportunity to run illegally for .42cpm

 

[The Punished Mitch]

I can't reply to any long posts, annoying af

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[browserbowser]

I don't see any white guys picking produce. Most the truckers running ghost codrivers got turbans. Can't speak for other industries but in logistics they want some brown skin that can't speak English that'll thank you for the opportunity to run illegally for .42cpm

Do I really need to go trawl the Internet for proof of what I mean only to show it to you in a listicle format that you'll ignore because it shatters your worldview of 'muh based brown workers'?

This shit is a myth as much as 'diversity is our strength' is a myth. Working longer hours for less pay is not the same as working harder for less pay. If I wanted to get into the weeds about the hows and whys such inefficient workers would get hired on for less pay in spite of their lack of output I'd be here typing up an entire novella I am absolutely certain you wouldn't read.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I don't see any white guys picking produce

that's because it's not worth it to pay american wages when you could pay mexican wages instead. that's why we're taking away their ability to do that. white people want high dollar pay for backbreaking sun-beaten labor.

 

[Eventide]

I definitely feel that. Here I've witnessed very lefty type people become the most racist people you can imagine purely from having live near Indians.

Feather or dot? I assume dot, 'cause as an injun, I wish I had the innate power to turn lefties solid red

S&P500 line being pumped doesn't benefit the average person to any significant degree. People care about the cost of living, they care about whether they and their children will be able to buy a house, they care about mentally ill sexual deviants telling their children that ackshually they might want to get a head start on chemically castrating themselves because they happen to like playing with dolls instead of cars at the ripe old age of 5, they care about niggers with a phonebook criminal record roaming the streets freely, they care about their neighborhoods being flooded by fentanyl and variously shaded niggers ranging from clithunting Somalians to unironic MS13 Satan worshippers.

This. Democrats go so caught up in trying to appeal to gender woo sickos and not offend illegal immigrants, they forgot about 90% of the general populace - normal folks who just want to live normal lives free of criminal gangs, criminals roaming the streets, and sick fucks trying to pump kindergarteners full of hormones to "change" their gender.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

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yeah i know, it only works on smaller posts. Any big posts I'm just left with



i assume its a redesign bug

 

[Purple Francis]

Do I really need to go trawl the Internet for proof of what I mean only to show it to you in a listicle format that you'll ignore because it shatters your worldview of 'muh based brown workers'?

This shit is a myth as much as 'diversity is our strength' is a myth. Working longer hours for less pay is not the same as working harder for less pay.

I get it man, you're hungry for a argument. If you choose to read my argument as "diversity is le good!" then go ahead champ. You box those shadows, I won't stop you.

 

[Banana Hammock]

I don't see any white guys picking produce. Most the truckers running ghost codrivers got turbans. Can't speak for other industries but in logistics they want some brown skin that can't speak English that'll thank you for the opportunity to run illegally for .42cpm

Yes, because we definitely want shitskins who can barely understand English driving a 40-ton vehicle 20 hours over their legal limit.

 

[browserbowser]

I get it man, you're hungry for a argument. If you choose to read my argument as "diversity is le good!" then go ahead champ. You box those shadows, I won't stop you.

Your argument is 'browns get hired over whites because they work harder' which is false.

It's not boxing shadows to tell you that you're wrong. I'm also tired of having exchanges where I prove this to not be the case and have folks like you waddle off like it's just bullshit as you're clearly posturing to do here, which proves my point that it wouldn't be worth the effort to attempt it here.

 

[autistic dog]

To me, that's the problem. During the transition from Obama to Trump, politics went from being something only the grown-ups followed, to becoming a part of pop-culture. The 2016 election season spawned so many memes, and generated so much discussion online, that the Internet never really went back. And everyone in the country put the battle for political ideals at the center of their thinking, and at the center of their creative works, both corporate and independent.

There are just some people who are not cut out for politics, and really never should've gotten into them to begin with.

Gamergate and obamafags attempted color revolution in the United States was why the left mobilized. The teenage 4channers were a big enough threat to bring the hammer and Trump winning made them basically declare a soft civil war. The right who didn't see it happening in the shadows were forced to become political because a man in a dress was trying to molest their daughters and get them fired from their jobs.

It is better that it played out this way. That the new world order fell only after mobilizing their full force and having every single plan and machinations fail in an era where it will be documented in history forever. Had Trump won using covert tactics in the shadows they might think they still had a chance instead of being seen as the loosers.

I suspect the world will naturally clean itself up over the next generation or two now that God was forced to step in and smite the unholy assholes down once and for all.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I mean there's different avenues for the CCP to pursue, sure. I think the real money is just that there's some trade deal made in the next month or so, both parties walk away acting as if neither lost and what we're left with is just the same shit as before. Trump wants a 'victory' that people aren't going to flay him for and even if it just results in a net effect of slight tariffs on China and a slight lightening of their tariffs on the U.S., the people who are loyalists will defend it to the death as owning China just as I'm sure Xi's fanbase - assuming he has one - will defend his actions in turn.

Still the possibility exists for expansionist action, again, given Trump's anti-war posturing to win the election and the ongoing and obvious path being laid down for him to go to war with Iran on Israel's behalf. It'd be the right time and the right excuse for it if they really ever wanted it. Though as a certain person pointed out they're going for the 'cultural' rather than 'domination' victory with Taiwan it would seem, and they've made strides in that, so who knows.

I just wanted to point out that it is a real possibility and if it kicks off it is not because of genuine desperation.

I’d say your analysis tends towards the cynical interpretation of events, but can’t hold that against anyone. But while China still definitely has their military hardware today, having it in five to ten to twenty years will cost a shit ton of maintenance, and I think if our current trade posture continues, we’ll be closing future opportunities off.

That’s a big deal, because time has been on China’s side up to this trade war. I think the perception of that window, where China has built a zerg fleet with poor rust proofing at a time where they have gold reserves and 30 million excess males from the one child policy all tend to suggest that if they are ever going to make their move, they should do it BEFORE they collapse

Trump’s also pulling a kind of Paul Revere routine

 

[Purple Francis]

Yes, because we definitely want shitskins who can barely understand English driving a 40-ton vehicle 20 hours over their legal limit.

It's all the megas hire these days it seems. Only specialized like hazmat/oversize/LCV got someone with a name you can pronounce.

 

[tehpope]

China Uncensored did a video on what an invasion of Taiwan would look like

https://youtu.be/Hrk1D9jw5jE

Based on this article:

https://thefederalist.com/2025/04/03/3-ways-china-could-strike-taiwan-and-what-it-means-for-the-u-s/

China’s got three ways to go at Taiwan: a patient choke, a lightning grab, or full chaos.

The first one is a blockade of the Island. But then China would be sitting ducks for the rest of the world once the calvary comes running in.
The second, china strikes taiwan with missiles and storms the island. And the rest of the world is playing catch up.
The last one is the second option, on steroids. They still storm the island, but also attack Taiwan's allies at the same time. Both physical and cyber attacks. Basically, distract the US, et. al, from coming to Taiwan's aid by causing issues elsewhere.

The last one sounds like pure fiction tbh. It reads like something from a Jack Chick tract. They might do some physically or cyber attacks. But not both at once. The article mentions the possibility of China activating cells it has of nations within the US and elsewhere.

But then again, if they do go with the last option, it could leak out. Ala the Zimmerman telegraph. And then the US would have a reason to rally the rest of the world to sanction China and impose large tariffs on them.

Feels like an invasion of Taiwan would quickly quagmire into the rest of Asia vs China and N. Korea.

Possibly russia as well. Russia owes china a solid.

 

[Eventide]

I don't see any white guys picking produce. Most the truckers running ghost codrivers got turbans. Can't speak for other industries but in logistics they want some brown skin that can't speak English that'll thank you for the opportunity to run illegally for .42cpm

I've only ever known of one white field picker (in Oklahoma). He was an illiterate ex-con former meth addict (he was missing half his teeth) that would pick almond trees & lettuce on my friend's grandfather's small farm. I think generally it's one of those jobs people only do if they cannot get any other line of work, on account of being backbreaking and low paying.

 

[JayseeDenton]

that's because it's not worth it to pay american wages when you could pay mexican wages instead. that's why we're taking away their ability to do that. white people want high dollar pay for backbreaking sun-beaten labor.

The macroeconomic effect also needs to be emphasized

>Mexican picks produce for $100
>At most he spends the $10 on tacos and beer while living on his cousin's floor
>Sends $90 home to mexico where it's worth shit tons
>Eventually makes its way into the hands of the cartels

>White guy picks produce for $300
>Spends it on rent, local food, gas, etc. It stays in the damn country.
>American businesses thrive

We literally imported a slave class. Any leftist defending this shit is retarded (more than usual)

 

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[Purple Francis]

Your argument is 'browns get hired over whites because they work harder' which is false.

It's not boxing shadows to tell you that you're wrong. I'm also tired of having exchanges where I prove this to not be the case and have folks like you waddle off like it's just bullshit as you're clearly posturing to do here, which proves my point that it wouldn't be worth the effort to attempt it here.

I take it you're not in transport. Let me break it down for you.

Most white people won't run ghost drivers because 1: they value their life 2: they respect the law 3: they know it's plain retarded. Pajeet doesn't care. He'll run 18 hours a day because that means he gets paid more. Scumbag megas only care about maximizing loads; that's how they get paid. They'll happily hire some dipshit that'll run 6hr over their legal limit and rake in the cash from them. When they inevitably get caught and fined/jailed, the company throws up their hands, tells them "that's against company policy!", fires them, and flicks through indeed for a new turban to drive their truck.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

that's because it's not worth it to pay american wages when you could pay mexican wages instead. that's why we're taking away their ability to do that. white people want high dollar pay for backbreaking sun-beaten labor.

56 percent of agricultural workers are legal, not really an argument

 

[Eventide]

I really miss the old Onion videos. I liked the one where they interviewed the writer of the Fast and Furious franchise (...a five year old boy):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIY5b1JMvGs

 

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