Plagued 4chan - the Internet hate machine

[BlondiDog]

I hear a lot of people doomposting about how "4chan is over because the source code leaked." Is that really that big of a deal, though? It was decade-old code that hadn't been touched since moot sold the site.

Obviously, it means the site will probably be down for more than just a few days, but does it even *matter* if the source code leaked if the code gets updated or significantly rewritten anyway? Serious question.

They should just open source it.

Host a gitlab, let the community rebuild it, no more anonymous mods, etc.

 

[bear_assult]

hire christopher barnatt to rewrite everything in python and run the site on a cluster of 1000 rpi4's
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based pychad

Tech debt if you want to label it like that. A better way to put it is that they're just lazy retards that don't give a shit. Do you really think they'd never had updated their software if they cared about security even a tiny bit?

true but then where the fuck were the funds going? I don't work with PHP anymore (used to be an SRE for a comp that did host that shit) and a rule of thumb was isolating and circumventing anything that might hold security risks, like isolationist VMs or super-duper provisioned, extra-ephemeral containers. seems to me like they were running this shit like a 2007 Op. even some AI chatbot like Claude (better yet, Cursor agent with it) could overhaul the whole thing into a faster more stable and secure infrastructure. I don't know the details but this is all super lazy looking to me.

 

[Thunder Warrior]

There's no need for such a thing. 4chan is outdated in terms of the Internet media and general web culture. It didn't evolve toward something new, but ended up with the same shit as every other site, just in different boxers.
And I disagree; nature abhors an empty niche, there will always be competitors to fulfill it.

I'm pessimistic about the future of the site. I'm sure it will come back, but it will continue its slow decline into irrelevancy. It's just the way internet works these days. When 4chan was created, not only were there a lot less mentally ill people online, but the internet itself was different. Evading a ban wasn't as easy as clearing your cache and turning airplane mode on and off. Maybe a site like 4chan could work if you had some kind of registration in the background, but your account name was hidden while posting so no one except mods could see who you are? But as it stands, tying bans and site access to IPs in this era of easily obtainable and swappable IPs is just untenable. You either need to change things dramatically, or do what 4chan is doing, long ass timers and captchas that only seem to hurt legitimate users more than ban evaders.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

I wonder when will Microsoft drop the facade and stop supporting shit they've done since windows 3.1 or even older.
I can imagine a future where even your own fucking OS is on the cloud, and it sucks.

That already happened. Rent a Windows computer and run it on your tablet or whatever. Pay a monthly fee to do so.

You VILL eat ze bugs.
You VILL live in the pod.
You VILL pay for a subscription to use everything.
You VILL own nothing and be happy.

 

[XaXaSt0rr]

4chan is for stupid people who thought they were smart. Don't kid yourself into thinking that any website is somehow better than another one.

I think imageboards and social media were much better before COVID. It was not as popular as it is now, so it mostly felt like people with niche/edgy interests were sharing knowledge with each other. Charts from 4chan and other imageboards really contributed to my knowledge a lot. Nowadays all social media and imageboards are full of failed normies complaining about being a virgin 24/7 and hating women.

 

[john goldfish]

There's no need for such a thing. 4chan is outdated in terms of the Internet media and general web culture. It didn't evolve toward something new, but ended up with the same shit as every other site, just in different boxers.
And I disagree; nature abhors an empty niche, there will always be competitors to fulfill it.

The very changes in the online landscape are what made the "4chan format" timeless- not outdated.

If anything the rotting of 4ch stems from a lack of maintenance of that very form & function that allowed it to outshine and outlive most other culturally relevant online places on the internet. I don't feel like schizoposting right now, but you guys are forgetting that taxpayer money and investigation time was put into cross-section studies of 4chan at large, and on a couple of cases, of /pol/ specifically, to learn how to nerf and inoculate these powerful centers of the e-zeitgeist.

A lot of publicly and privately funded effort went into understanding and fucking with your favorite cambodian shrimp farming smoke signal forum.

>file related- "A Longitudinal Measurement Study of 4chan’s Politically Incorrect Forum and its Effect on the Web"

 

[grocerygoblin]

Little did the hacker know that 5 minutes before he hacked into the site using his pdf, I hacked into the site using my own pdf and replaced all the jannie data with my own data of people I don't like.

 

[Dave's Mailman]

Now the posts-per-country stat gives this screenshot way more context

 

[mindlessobserver]

WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE CHICKEN JOCKEY
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The very last meme posted on 4chan will be jack black saying Chicken Jockey. It's kind of poetic. A website born of young millenials shitposting died to a Gen Alpha shit post.

 

[Vecna]

I hear a lot of people doomposting about how "4chan is over because the source code leaked." Is that really that big of a deal, though? It was decade-old code that hadn't been touched since moot sold the site.

Obviously, it means the site will probably be down for more than just a few days, but does it even *matter* if the source code leaked if the code gets updated or significantly rewritten anyway? Serious question.

Fixing this requires money and time. The source code revealed how outdated and vulnerable the entire stack is. If they don't, the results will be a secondary hack that's going to leak fucking everything and possibly deanonymize users this time. Hiroshimoot has been a ghost for years and it's hard to gauge his financial situation or commitment to 4chan even is at this point.

 

[Big Fat Faggot]

where the fuck were the funds going

hiro's alcohol habit

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Again, they're lazy niggers. You might think this is a special case of utter incompetence but this happens rather often.

 

[ringtones]

I don't feel like schizoposting right now, but you guys are forgetting that taxpayer money and investigation time was put into cross-section studies of 4chan at large, and on a couple of cases, of /pol/ specifically, to learn how to nerf and inoculate these powerful centers of the e-zeitgeist.

didn't forget but there are a bunch of retards in the thread arguing that there's "no proof" because they can't think

 

[Dreamy Girl]

Deleting browser cookies + changing ip always worked for me.

Yes but my dad did not want to change our static IP.

 

[Jace on ice]

I hear a lot of people doomposting about how "4chan is over because the source code leaked." Is that really that big of a deal, though? It was decade-old code that hadn't been touched since moot sold the site.

Obviously, it means the site will probably be down for more than just a few days, but does it even *matter* if the source code leaked if the code gets updated or significantly rewritten anyway? Serious question.

It matters because if they rebuild or rollback using the same source the vulnerabilities than enabled the hack will still be valid.

A partial or complete rebuild is necessary and Gookmoot has neither the technical knowledge to do it himself nor the financial resources necessary to hire someone.

Tldr he's fucked.

 

[The Grimace]

The Yotsuba source code has been out there for a while, so it's not like this is some kind of new thing. It's mostly just that whatever happened was big enough to really fuck things up and people don't seem to care enough to fix it.

I get what you're saying, yeah.

My current theory is that Hiroshimoot bought it with the intention of "set and forget" while he gets the ad revenue from Western imageboard users. Which is why nothing was ever structurally updated since then.

At this point, unless he's retarded and hates money, Hiro is forced to actually have someone do maintenance. At least once, lmao. I could imagine stuff getting redone significantly once, and then in another decade it'll get hacked again and the cycle will repeat unless someone actually has foresight.

 

[dich_licher]

Little did the hacker know that 5 minutes before he hacked into the site using his pdf, I hacked into the site using my own pdf and replaced all the jannie data with my own data of people I don't like.

devilish!

 

[Cloudberry_Jam]

A lot of publicly and privately funded effort went into understanding and fucking with your favorite cambodian shrimp farming smoke signal forum.

>file related- "A Longitudinal Measurement Study of 4chan’s Politically
Incorrect Forum and its Effect on the Web"

I'll have give this a read during lunch, thanks.

 

[Shitoko]

https://wiki.soyjak.st/Great_Cuckset

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

I hear a lot of people doomposting about how "4chan is over because the source code leaked." Is that really that big of a deal, though? It was decade-old code that hadn't been touched since moot sold the site.

Obviously, it means the site will probably be down for more than just a few days, but does it even *matter* if the source code leaked if the code gets updated or significantly rewritten anyway? Serious question.

Someone more technical could give a better answer, but I've seen so many "SOURCE CODE LEAK GUYZ" stuff with games and then nothing ever happens. I think most people don't care to do anything with it so it goes no where. I guess someone could make 4Chan2, but that requires work

 

[john goldfish]

didn't forget but there are a bunch of retards in the thread arguing that there's "no proof" because they can't think

That just stems from ignorance. Maybe if I was paying a lot less attention I would have missed those published studies (of which I believe I only saved 1 or 2), but there have been more. And there have been even more unpublished ones, along with the occasional leak from training presentations on the nature of 4ch, how to interact with it, etc.

Again, it's cringe to go and act like we were part of something great or a sekrit klub, but that innocuous fun little place for faceless shitposting harnessed a fascinating part of human online interaction that can no longer be replicated, but could perhaps be well honored and carried on with, under the right circumstances. Acting like 4ch's format was "outdated", as the other user put it, is antithetic to the carrying of the torch.