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It appears that the CCP's Politburo recently issued a classified "eyes only" document which outlined China's response to the tariffs issued by the United States. From April 7th to the 9th, officials from provincial, county, and municipal levels were ordered to report to secure locations in order to view the document, which supposedly framed the imposed tariffs as part of a "total war" strategy against China (involving political, economical, military, and ideological offensives), and outlined China's counter-offensive strategy, which includes the leveraging of international discontent against the United States in order to disrupt their influence on the global economy, as well as a coordinated withdrawal of large amounts of financial assets on short notice.

 
The principle sucks, but the practicality makes it tolerable.

Every one that takes the buyout is a potential aclu lawsuit averted
Ummmm excuse me, drumpf. Becky Goldwitzstein, ACLU. We're suing on behalf of Paco del Taco who took your nazi buyout plan. The seat is economy but it should be First Class with free champagne because no human is illegal you tiny dick cheeto man 👃💅
 
Just pointing out again how you see these foreign populations as a monolith who all act and think exactly the same. Maybe it's just none of our business to tell billions of people thousands of miles away how they're supposed to live, preferably in service of us? Maybe we should work out our own problems first?
This argument is so played out and retarded, it died in the gas chamber with wokeness.

If you are speaking geopolitically, you are speaking in generalities, every country refers this way to every other country all the time because it just saves fucking time.

Do you want to jump around on eggshells with qualifying statements like "the majority of taiwanese citizens with a vested interest in taiwanese independence are likely to persue a course of action that and as such will likely be reflected in the decisions made by their goverment and military officials despite outliers in blah balh blah"

Or just say

"Taiwan would do this".

Assuming you're actually american, I imagine you're well aware we get treated as a monolith constantly. Fucking constantly. Just yesterday some chink official blabbed about how we're all peasants. It's how people talk.

Maybe it's just none of our business to tell billions of people thousands of miles away how they're supposed to live, preferably in service of us?
Again, fucking laughable. We're offering input and seeking deals with these countries. If they want us to mind our own business then the tariffs shouldn't bother them. Name one country that hasn't told every country how they "should" live in some way or another, i can't scroll social media for 20 seconds without seeing people tell Americans how to change gun laws, health, care, season dey food, etc.
Maybe we should work out our own problems first?
Huge wumao red flag. I imagine somebody would have outed you by now given how long you've been here but either way this is exactly the bullshit they try to pull.
 
Trump just nuked nVidia by banning their China-compliant chips from being sold to China.



They're expecting a $5.5 billion write-off from orders they now have to cancel. Stock down almost 10% after-hours since the announcement.

EDIT: The H20 chip was specifically made to sell to China for AI since their H100 line was previously barred for export.
Good, now maybe they can concentrate on what matters, keeping their actual GPU's in stock for the rest of us so they can't be scalped for 2x MSRP.
 
It appears that the CCP's Politburo recently issued a classified "eyes only" document which outlined China's response to the tariffs issued by the United States. From April 7th to the 9th, officials from provincial, county, and municipal levels were ordered to report to secure locations in order to view the document, which supposedly framed the imposed tariffs as part of a "total war" strategy against China (involving political, economical, military, and ideological offensives), and outlined China's counter-offensive strategy, which includes the leveraging of international discontent against the United States in order to disrupt their influence on the global economy, as well as a coordinated withdrawal of large amounts of financial assets on short notice.

I watched this this morning while I was waiting for the coffee to work. Towards the end she talks about signs of internal dissent in the CCP
 
It appears that the CCP's Politburo recently issued a classified "eyes only" document which outlined China's response to the tariffs issued by the United States. From April 7th to the 9th, officials from provincial, county, and municipal levels were ordered to report to secure locations in order to view the document, which supposedly framed the imposed tariffs as part of a "total war" strategy against China (involving political, economical, military, and ideological offensives), and outlined China's counter-offensive strategy, which includes the leveraging of international discontent against the United States in order to disrupt their influence on the global economy, as well as a coordinated withdrawal of large amounts of financial assets on short notice.

Leveraging international discontent against the US when Trump is president is not a winning strategy.
 
@Thé au lait I summon thee: do you think Taiwan would fold and capitulate to China if they invaded, or try to hold out until the US arrives? Is SaidNoOneEver correct or a CCP shill?
Cruise missiles can hit Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzen easily from Taipei.
China's most important factories and critical infrastructure are all located on the coast.
It's a question of how much loss can China withstand here.
 
Weren't we suppose to find out if there was gold in Fort Knox or not?

What happened to that?
It was one of Trump's many political shitposts. The gold is there, but no one cares because there's not enough gold on planet Earth to back up global financial systems. There are many avenues of this topic, but there is already a thread for it.

I'm not redirecting you to be an asshole or smarmy, but because the last time this discussion got out of hand a few people got threadbanned.
Cruise missiles can hit Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzen easily from Taipei.
China's most important factories and critical infrastructure are all located on the coast.
It's a question of how much loss can China withstand here.
I was thinking military targets, not industrial targets, but fair enough.
 
I remember Musk responding to a post mentioning it, but that's about it. Gold keeps climbing, though. Someone's buying, hopefully not the chinks.
The chinks have been mining it. They might have a lot, but if they try to cash it out, the price will go down. I think the strategy is to backstop the yuan while they ARE intentionally devaluing it to facilitate continued export. Their gold is the control rod in their shitport reactor
 
Canada Bent the knee.
The first skirmish in the US-China trade war just concluded and John Carney is left licking his wounds.

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said his government will allow automakers to import US-manufactured cars and trucks without tariffs, as long as the companies continue to build cars in Canada, and continued with previously announced expansions. Which of course, they all will vow to do - after all, there is no downside to a promise - meaning Canada just conceded to a key Trump demands.

Last week, Carney put retaliatory tariffs of as much as 25% on vehicles made in the US, effectively matching an earlier move by US President Donald Trump on foreign autos.

The move provides relief from the trade war to companies including General Motors and Stellantis that have assembly plants in Ontario but still export large quantities of vehicles from the US into Canada.

Commenting on the capitulation, Rabobank's Michael Every writes that "Canada will now let automakers import US-assembled cars and trucks tariff-free if they preserve domestic manufacturing. This isn’t being heralded as a Carney “retreat” and “fold”, of course. But in economic statecraft terms, it’s clear Canada had, and has, no real choice."

“Our counter-tariffs won’t apply if they continue to produce, continue to employ, continue to invest in Canada,” Carney told reporters at a news conference. But if a manufacturer cuts production or investment in Canada, the number of tariff-free vehicles it will be permitted to import will be reduced, Canada’s Finance Department said in a news release.

François-Philippe Champagne, Canada’s finance minister, did not specify in his statement exactly how many U.S.-made cars and trucks each of the five major automakers would be allowed to import without tariffs. But his statement suggested that those numbers would be linked to Canadian manufacturing: “The number of tariff-free vehicles a company is permitted to import will be reduced if there are reductions in Canadian production or investment.”

While the great majority of Canadian-made cars and trucks end up in the United States, Trump has repeatedly said that he wants carmakers to move all of their manufacturing to the United States, a move widely seen in Canada as a direct assault on the country’s largest export aside from oil and gas.

Auto trade between the United States and Canada has become tightly integrated since the two countries signed a trade deal 60 years ago that eased the flow of vehicles and related goods across the border.

Only Toyota and Honda, which account for about two-thirds of Canadian auto production, are currently operating at or near full capacity in Canada.

Stellantis recently stopped renovating a factory in the Toronto suburb of Brampton that would have made gasoline and electric Jeeps, in what the company described as a pause. Its larger plant, in Windsor, Ontario, is in the middle of a two-week shutdown that was induced by the U.S. tariffs.

Ford’s factory in Oakville, Ontario, was closed for a now-abandoned plan to convert it for electric vehicles. It is now retooling to make large pickups. And General Motors announced that it would largely shut down production of a poor-selling electric van made in Ingersoll, Ontario, until October.

But the winning blow in this particular trade war battle came from Japanese media outlet Nikkei which reported that Honda Motor is looking at shifting some of its auto production from Canada and Mexico into the US, with a goal of having 90% of its US vehicles sales produced locally.

Honda currently builds CR-V and Civic vehicles at a plant in Alliston, Ontario, and last year it announced a C$15 billion ($10.8 billion) long-term plan to build out an electric-vehicle supply chain in Canada — with significant help from taxpayers.

Anita Anand, the industry minister, was scheduled to meet with the head of Honda’s Canadian division on Tuesday, according to a statement. “We are in close contact with the company, and Honda has communicated that no such production decisions affecting Canadian operations have been made, and are not being considered at this time,” her office said by email.

A Honda spokesperson said by email that the plant “will operate at full capacity for the foreseeable future and no changes are being considered at this time.”

Carney, currently campaigning for the national election on April 28, told reporters that he and other government ministers have had a number of conversations with the executives of global automakers.

“We are very seized with the issues” around the auto tariffs, Carney said, pointing to a campaign promise he made to set up a C$2 billion fund to help strengthen the Canadian auto supply chain. Whoever wins the election will need to negotiate with Trump on a broader strategy to resolve the tariff war, he said.

Canada currently has 25% counter-tariffs on about C$60 billion worth of US products, aside from autos. Those taxes are hitting a wide range of US steel and aluminum products, plus items such as tools, computers and consumer goods.

The exemptions announced Tuesday will provide a break to Canadian businesses that rely on US inputs, as well to institutions such as hospitals, long-term care facilities and fire departments, the government said.

Speaker Johnson is not a fan of raising taxes for the rich.
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said that he likely will not support a measure to hike taxes on wealthy Americans, saying he and his party prefer tax reduction across the board.

Johnson was asked Sunday by Fox News host Maria Bartiromo about reports that Republicans may increase taxes on the wealthiest 40 percent to pay for certain initiatives backed by President Donald Trump, including his promise not to tax tips or Social Security payments.

“I’m not a big fan of doing that,” Johnson responded in the interview. “We’re the Republican Party and we’re for tax reduction for everyone. So, I mean, that’s a general principle that we always try to abide by. There’s lots of discussion. There’s lots of ideas on the Hill.”

He added in the Sunday morning interview that “I would say just stay tuned.”

“The next five to six weeks are going to be critical as all these negotiations happen in the committees of jurisdiction. You‘ll hear lots of rumors and lots of talk, but we’ll see where it all lands.”

Johnson added that he wanted to pass the measure by Memorial Day, which is May 26, because of the U.S. government’s debt obligations.

Meanwhile, several top Republicans in Congress appeared to pour cold water on raising taxes for the wealthy.

“That has been proposed by some ... I don’t know how that’s going to land,” Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) told the National Review.

During the 2024 campaign trail, Trump proposed no taxes on tips or on Social Security payments, while pledging to make permanent and expand his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

During his joint address to Congress in March, the president said he is still planning to lower taxes for all Americans.

“We’re seeking permanent income tax cuts all across the board,” he said at one point, adding that he wants to cut taxes for the “middle-class, upper-class, lower-class, [and] business-class.”

The remarks come days after House Republicans on April 10 approved a Senate-amended budget framework, 216–214, setting up tax reform via the reconciliation process.

Just two House Republicans voted against the budget resolution—Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Victoria Spartz (R-Ind.). Two additional Republicans, Reps. Bob Onder (R-Mo.) and David Valadao (R-Calif.), did not vote.

“If you were trying to hasten financial collapse of our country and bribe voters to go along with it, the strategy wouldn’t look much different than what Congress is doing today,” Massie said ahead of the vote. “The big beautiful bill cuts taxes while keeping spending on an increasingly unsustainable trajectory.”

The House passed its tax reform blueprint back in February, providing the House Ways and Means Committee with up to $4.5 trillion for tax cuts in exchange for a minimum of $1.5 trillion in spending cuts. For Ways and Means to make use of the full $4.5 trillion, however, committees would collectively need to come up with another $500 billion in deficit reductions.

The Senate, meanwhile, passed an amended version of the House budget resolution earlier this month, mandating just $4 billion in spending cuts. The Senate version also provides only $1.5 trillion to the chamber’s tax-writing committee, but assumes the use of a scoring tactic that would treat extending the expiring Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provisions as a continuation of existing spending, rather than new expenditure.

The movement in Congress comes as Americans are due to file their taxes by April 15.

The Epoch Times has contacted the White House for comment.

Reuters contributed to this report.
 
I was thinking military targets, not industrial targets, but fair enough.
In a "fight for your life, holy fuck the landing boats are coming" situation, everything is a military target. If it gets the chinks to back off, Taiwan has succeeded in defending itself, no matter the property damage it has to cause to achieve SURVIVE.jpg
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All the gold on earth, even that which hasn’t been mined yet, would back up about 5% of all the balance sheets
Let's see if my math checks out. Current price is at $3300 per troy oz. All the gold in existence on Earth at that price would equal only 5% of the global balance sheets. So, gold would need to be at around $66000 per troy oz to match it, correct?
 
Let's see if my math checks out. Current price is at $3300 per troy oz. All the gold in existence on Earth at that price would equal only 5% of the global balance sheets. So, gold would need to be at around $66000 per troy oz to match it, correct?
Give or take. That includes all debt, assets and money suppy

5% was the optimistic side, so split the difference and call it $68,000/oz

So at current prices, all the gold on earth wouldn’t quite cover the US national debt
 
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