Nintendo Switch 2 (WIP) - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

[Basic Blond Boy]

They really do need to spice it up a bit, it feels like they haven't done anything but tweak Smash Wii U/3DS. It's basically like if they improved the graphics with each Street Fighter 2 update. Still an awesome series though, not at all mediocre.

Fixed

I will stand by 64, Melee and Brawl all being their own thing even if they built upon each other in many ways. The series really didn't stagnate till Wii U and 3DS, where they started stripping the series down to the bare essentials of big roster and stage count.

 

[Hermione Granger]

The xbox woke slop is coming

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

This is an insane statement, even assuming hyperbole. It's one of the best in the genre, top 5 easily.

I really liked Galaxy, but Odyssey brings out stars like candy (when it doesn't allow you to buy them) and there are very few good stages (and I remember a lot of them ending prematurely). I think the only good one was the NY shit, and it was a huge auto fellation.

They really do need to spice it up a bit, it feels like they haven't done anything but tweak Melee with each iteration, aside from adding Final Smash attacks. It's basically like if they improved the graphics with each Street Fighter 2 update. Still an awesome series though, not at all mediocre.

I played it a bit but got bored pretty quickly. It just feels like slop that the devs throw shit for you to feel like you had accomplishments.

 

[analrapist]

The xbox woke slop is coming

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I unironically like this angle from Microsoft. I think it's smart for them as a software company. Accept that other platforms exist, release for them. "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". 1 Microsoft Way.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Its amazing, Nintendo is on a speedrun to destroy the good reputation they earned with the Switch 1.

>Switch 1
>good reputation
Nah. Maybe before the Switch, sure. Before that they were the only ones that weren't pulling the same shady practices that Sony and Microsoft were, which is why people liked Nintendo in the first place, even if the WiiU was a flop, and the Wii was the beginning of the casual/normalfag catering.

All Nintendo had to do with the Switch 1 was keep doing what made all their other consoles up to that point work:

• Release quality 1st party titles
• Release functional hardware that's easy to use
• Keep online free

Out of the gate, they fumbled on points 2 and 3. The fucking thing bricked on a lot of people when they first got their hands on it, and the fact that they started charging people to use basic shit that used to be free is the lowest form of jewery you can get. Sure the Switch 1 sold like fucking hotcakes, but it's not that hard to win a console race when your two other competitors kneecaped their own legs while eating crayons and rolling their turds into little balls. The problem is that Nintendo saw what those dumbasses were doing and decided to kneecap their own legs as well to join in on whatever "fun" they're having. Now we have Nintendo: The company that is killing rom sites while only drip-feeding the rest of the world roms that should have been released right from the get-go on a subscription service so we don't even own them anymore.

This whole Switch 2 fiasco is just Nintendo continuing to dig their own grave that they made for themselves, and if the hardcore loyalist are going to continue supporting their bad habits, then Nintendo will never learn, and it'll only get worse from here on out.

 

[starborn427614]

That Mario Kart direct could've been an email, but the game still looks good. Not £70/$80 good, but still.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

That Mario Kart direct could've been an email, but the game still looks good. Not £70/$80 good, but still.

Nintendo probably did themselves a disservice with that direct. Like, when you start asking for $80, people are really going to scritiniz

 

[Sugriva]

Nintendo probably did themselves a disservice with that direct. Like, when you start asking for $80, people are really going to scritiniz

the switch 2 direct was proof to me that asians have insect brains that operate on a completely different level. How the fuck did they think this would be a good idea? I haven't heard a single person that's actually excited for the switch 2 now.

 

[Jack Garland]

the switch 2 direct was proof to me that asians have insect brains that operate on a completely different level. How the fuck did they think this would be a good idea? I haven't heard a single person that's actually excited for the switch 2 now.

What else is there to expect out of a game-specific Direct?
-Here is the game
-This is how it plays
-These are the game modes
-Here's social shit nobody cares about
-Did you rike it?

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

-Did you rike it?

Looks awesome. Very excited to play this new Mario Kart.

 

[Meow Mix Fan]

I'm kind of tired of hearing people bitch about the price of the thing. I'm not super happy with it either because I'm sort of a brokie and priced out of it now but it's not like a video game console is a necessity or anything. It's a luxury item and priced accordingly.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

the switch 2 direct was proof to me that asians have insect brains that operate on a completely different level. How the fuck did they think this would be a good idea? I haven't heard a single person that's actually excited for the switch 2 now.

Its more Nintendo being retarded. This happens every time
>Nintendo on Hard times
>"Nintendo is doomed this time" says the media
>Buckles down and makes their best game every
>Prices it to be as affordable as possible.
>Comes out and is instant success
>Nintendo saved. Raking in money
>Years pass, Nintendo forgets about the bad times
>Starts making really awful decisions. Games get worse and goes after piracy hard
>Makes new console assuming that "they'll just buy it"
>Console comes out and people aren't happy. Doesn't sell
>"WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN"
>repeat

There is also something to be said about the price. Nintendo is usually successful when their games and system are cheaper than the competition. Wii games were $50 when everyone else was $60. Nintendo was still $60 when everyone was moving to $70. 80 bucks for Mario Kart might fuck them more than they realize. They are the low cost cheap provider in the market and they'll be shocked to figure that out come June.

 

[Metamorpho]

Not even 1 second into the video and this guy's already soyfaced.

 

[Sugriva]

Its more Nintendo being retarded. This happens every time
>Nintendo on Hard times
>"Nintendo is doomed this time" says the media
>Buckles down and makes their best game every
>Prices it to be as affordable as possible.
>Comes out and is instant success
>Nintendo saved. Raking in money
>Years pass, Nintendo forgets about the bad times
>Starts making really awful decisions. Games get worse and goes after piracy hard
>Makes new console assuming that "they'll just buy it"
>Console comes out and people aren't happy. Doesn't sell
>"WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN"
>repeat

There is also something to be said about the price. Nintendo is usually successful when their games and system are cheaper than the competition. Wii games were $50 when everyone else was $60. Nintendo was still $60 when everyone was moving to $70. 80 bucks for Mario Kart might fuck them more than they realize. They are the low cost cheap provider in the market and they'll be shocked to figure that out come June.

I'm a nintoddler at heart. the first video game I ever played was the original mario bros on my uncle's NES. This is the first time I'm not going to buy their console at launch. Fuck that, it's too expensive. I'll get it in a year or two when I can buy one used.

The only must-have game they're releasing is Prime 4, which I can just emulate (hopefully. I don't know how the switch emulators are now that they've gone full scorched earth on them)

 

[Two Dollars]

I just don’t see why you wouldn’t package it in. They’ve got like 20 years of showing that doing that yields great resultd.

Everyone is saying Nintendo are being greedy but I can’t see it. Greed would be what Regie did.

‘We put this game in we don’t care about for free and use it to sell a billon systems instead of it being seperate and only selling a million’

Nintendo is just dumb and short sighted.

Despite what people endlessly repeat, Nintendo‘s main problem is not, and has never been, greed. If they were greedy, they would sell NSO games individually to maximize revenue and get most people to shut up about not owning them. They would flood Steam with half-assed ports of old games at 30 bucks a pop for quick and easy revenue.

Nintendo’s problem is pride. They want to make sure you’re playing by their rules and are fully committed to their ecosystem so you can do things how they think they should be done, because they are the best and they know better than you. That’s why:
- Old games are only available through a specific subscription service.
- Things like music and voice chat are locked behind proprietary apps when everyone would prefer a third party service.
- Splatoon multiplayer modes are only available through a rotation.
- Emulators are the spawn of Satan not only because of piracy, but because you’re playing games outside of their ecosystem (this is also why they will never put their games on PC; even mobile was an act of desperation).
- Their games almost never get price drops (it “devalues” them).
- It took them this long to rerelease F-Zero GX even though fans were begging to pay $60 for a rushed HD remaster with online.

Economics - maximizing revenue - is about finding a price point for your product that maximizes (units sold * profit per unit), so simply raising the price isn’t “greedy” if it reduces that revenue. The Switch 2 is $450 because Nintendo believes it’s worth that much. The Switch never got a price drop because they believed it was worth $300 even eight years after its launch. Mario Kart World is $80 because they think “yes, this is better than every single $60 or $70 game on the market, and consumers will agree”.

Basically, Nintendo has a really massive ego, and it’s only been made worse by the Switch’s massive success and Sony/Microsoft’s overwhelming stupidity.

 

[Baraka Obama]

I really liked Galaxy, but Odyssey brings out stars like candy (when it doesn't allow you to buy them) and there are very few good stages (and I remember a lot of them ending prematurely). I think the only good one was the NY shit, and it was a huge auto fellation.

Bowser's Castle was the only standout stage for me but it was designed a lot more like a Mario 3D World stage.

 

[Soggy Floppa]

I don't know how the switch emulators are now that they've gone full scorched earth on them

https://citron-emu.org/

 

[Dysnomia]

Its more Nintendo being retarded. This happens every time
>Nintendo on Hard times
>"Nintendo is doomed this time" says the media
>Buckles down and makes their best game every
>Prices it to be as affordable as possible.
>Comes out and is instant success
>Nintendo saved. Raking in money
>Years pass, Nintendo forgets about the bad times
>Starts making really awful decisions. Games get worse and goes after piracy hard
>Makes new console assuming that "they'll just buy it"
>Console comes out and people aren't happy. Doesn't sell
>"WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN"
>repeat

There is also something to be said about the price. Nintendo is usually successful when their games and system are cheaper than the competition. Wii games were $50 when everyone else was $60. Nintendo was still $60 when everyone was moving to $70. 80 bucks for Mario Kart might fuck them more than they realize. They are the low cost cheap provider in the market and they'll be shocked to figure that out come June.

Some people are afraid that if GTA6 is really going to be $100 then it could set a price trend in motion. I don't know if I buy that it will be $100. But if Switch2 games average at $80 then it makes them the cheaper choice once more if everyone else hops on the $100 bandwagon.

Buying this thing at launch is a waste in my opinion. I'd rather save up for a new laptop at this point. Or a Steamdeck. Nintendo is really gonna have to sell this to me hard to get me to consider it. I sure as hell can't put out the money at launch. But it's something to save towards if it's worth it. And wit all the other options out there it's not looking that way right now.

Old games are only available through a specific subscription service.

It's why I just keep emulating. I'd gladly buy older games individually if they were reasonably priced. But if everything is just locked behind a two tier paywall there's no point. If you want to play anything other than NES and Game Boy you need the expansion pack. I like the fact that Switch 2 has Gamecube games. But I believe it's expansion pack only. I don't have access to any games from their classics lineup if my subscription runs out. They went with this Netflix style system that doesn't really work for games. I hate how streaming services paved the way for this kind of thing. They'd make more money from me if I could buy the games I wanted right out.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

I'm a nintoddler at heart. the first video game I ever played was the original mario bros on my uncle's NES. This is the first time I'm not going to buy their console at launch. Fuck that, it's too expensive. I'll get it in a year or two when I can buy one used.

The only must-have game they're releasing is Prime 4, which I can just emulate (hopefully. I don't know how the switch emulators are now that they've gone full scorched earth on them)

I love my Bing Bing Wahoo machines too (though I did start with the Genesis), but like you said, there is nothing here. I'm more interested in Prime 4 and Rhythm Heaven so why do I need a $450 brick. The Switch 2 line up is so awful. Drag x Drive and Welcome Tour are the most soulless things imaginable that its shocking they came from Nintendo. After DK, you pretty much are waiting a whole year for Kirby Air Riders if it doesn't get delayed (the generic 2025 date doesn't fill me with confidence). Why wouldn't you just wait until 2026 when they show off the start of the year Direct. Nintendo did a way better job with the Switch 1 reveal. Way better variety of games and you knew what was coming for the entire year.

Some people are afraid that if GTA6 is really going to be $100 then it could set a price trend in motion. I don't know if I buy that it will be $100. But if Switch2 games average at $80 then it makes them the cheaper choice once more if everyone else hops on the $100 bandwagon.

That's a good point but holy shit does it reveal a lot about the state of the industry. I think In read somewhere there was already market data to show that $70 is slowing the sales of video games. I don't think the industry will be able to make money if $80 is the cheap option. The whole thing has been on a decline since 2022 and those target prices means people just won't buy games. Sure, they could lower the price, but by that point most potential customers would move on. Also, I've been skeptical of how well GTA5 actually did. You look at every GTA and it sold between 15-25 million, then all of a sudden this one sells 200 million? Where did the extra 175 million people come from (basically half of the US's population). Unfortunately, video game analyst are too stupid to question that or if $100 games even makes sense.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Nintendo’s problem is pride.

But when you are the best...