The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Slav Power]

This. I've used every single DE and WM. Cinnamon is the best. All window managers are tinker tranny shit that all are exactly the same and suffer from the same issues, the entire other part of a desktop that's not the compositor/wm. LXQT and XFCE goes too far old school with its panel that makes it painful to use without modifying it, KDE crashes a lot and breaks almost every major update, and gnome is a fishers price toy. Cinnamon has been rock solid, sure it might not be the fastest most up to date DE around, but it just works and doesn't get in my way.

The best Linux DE is the one that parrots Windows 7 to a T. Rather contradicting given how Linux cultists love to yap about how you can rice the everloving fuck out of Linux and use dwm or some other esoteric bullshit that's just so much better than what w*ndows forces upon you. Yet most Linux users just settle for the most Windows-like DE once they cure themselves out of the distrohopping/ricing autism.

And if you disagree that Linux Mint is the best distro...

Especially when it concerns a program that someone needs that is not available on Linux (e.g., Photoshop, and they do need the advanced functionality), and will always encourage them to try something native (like Gimp or Krita) and if that fails, to try and run Photoshop in Wine or a VM.

If someone relies on MS Office/Adobe CC for professional work then yeah, they're stuck with Windows. However, if they use Photoshop for hobbyist use, I'd strongly encourage looking into alternatives. Good ones, so not FOSS since all FOSS alternatives for Photoshop suck nigger cocks. Unfortunately the non-FOSS alternatives aren't that much better either. You have Affinity Photo and PhotoPea. One is a one time payment perpetual license, but you still have to tard wrangle it to run under Wine/Bottles/etc, and the other is cloudshit and I despise cloudshit. It's way easier to replace Premiere/AE since DaVinci Resolve exists.

For me, it's a whole bunch of tiny small programs I rely on daily or occasionally that have no good Linux equivalent, or don't have one at all. Making a switch to Linux would mean sacrificing my workflow efficiency as I wouldn't have the software that can do what I need it to do. Not even a matter of "just readjust to it", I tried the alternatives and they're all inferior on a technical level, be it missing functionality or making something that was simple unnecessarily convoluted. I'm not shooting myself in the foot and I already know how to tard wrangle Windows to the point where it doesn't get in my way.

I still use Linux for my homelab because surprise surprise, it's actually superior in this use case to Windows Server. Almost as if one was built from the ground up to be a desktop workstation OS and the other got a shitton of investment from major companies to create a solid server OS. Right tools for the right job. Windows for desktop use, Linux for homelab servers.

 

[Susanna]

Yet most Linux users just settle for the most Windows-like DE once they cure themselves out of the distrohopping/ricing autism.

Actually most settle for something very similar to MacOS, if not actually MacOS itself.

 

[Harry Kuntz]

Yet most Linux users just settle for the most Windows-like DE once they cure themselves out of the distrohopping/ricing autism.

And if you disagree that Linux Mint is the best distro...

I fell into the tiling window manager meme pipeline for a few years (bspwm specifically). I got driven away because all the Wayland tiling window managers are even more autistic and hard to deal with then the X ones (which I didn't think was possible). I liked using it, but now I am much happier on KDE (the actual most Windows like DE).
Mint is not my thing, All Debian based distros have burned me in some way, and apt deserves to burn in a hole. I would honestly rather compile the entire system from source manually, LFS style, before using anything Debian based again.

Good ones, so not FOSS since all FOSS alternatives for Photoshop suck nigger cocks

GIMP 3 is actually half decent after being delayed for over a decade, which surprised me.
I would strongly recommend installing the PhotoGIMP patch which makes GIMP look and behave like Photoshop. Works very nicely in my experience.

Actually most settle for something very similar to MacOS, if not actually MacOS itself.

Do poeople actually use Gnome? Originally it drove me away from exploring Linux altogether (before I knew what sensible desktops were, like KDE and Cinnamon). I never understood the point of a desktop environment with the worst parts of Mac OS, iOS and Android all smashed together.
At least Mac OS is a very easy to use and polished product. Gnome is just cheap and nasty.
I have a hunch that Gnome was made to get people away from Linux and keep them on Windows/Mac OS, since it succeeds at that job very well.

 

[Susanna]

Do poeople actually use Gnome? Originally it drove me away from exploring Linux altogether (before I knew what sensible desktops were, like KDE and Cinnamon). I never understood the point of a desktop environment with the worst parts of Mac OS, iOS and Android all smashed together.
At least Mac OS is a very easy to use and polished product. Gnome is just cheap and nasty.
I have a hunch that Gnome was made to get people away from Linux and keep them on Windows/Mac OS, since it succeeds at that job very well.

GNOME is indeed garbage. I meant KDE, which is very easy to configure such that it behaves a lot like macOS.

 

[Harry Kuntz]

GNOME is indeed garbage. I meant KDE, which is very easy to configure such that it behaves a lot like macOS.

No worries, I get you now. KDE is amazing for theming. I have set to look like Windows 7, but as you said can be made to act like Mac OS, or really anything quite easily. I had a CDE theme for KDE applied at one point and that worked great, so really anything is possible.

 

[Voloromir of bad Yuristan]

And if you disagree that Linux Mint is the best distro...

Honestly, not the best distro out there, but I installed LMDE some 3 or 4 years ago in my parents computer, and since I enabled automatic updates I literally haven't touched that computer for anything besides them asking how to do things in there.
It's really mindboggling how stable it is for the average user opening chromium and browsing some government sites and online stores.

 

[GNU Abyss]

There's one called Vapour, but it hasn't gotten an update in a month and its built in...Electron. shudder.
there isn't a lot of options, probably due to the amount of shit the proprietary steam client api handles, from simple chat stuff to complex game drm licencing verification. add in the fact that it changes all the time without warning, and voilà, no good alternatives.
honestly swap over to gog and use a proton manager to install and manage your games. you'll probably be better off.

Sailing the high seas for me, Goldberg Emulator is the best. I don't mean a full on replacement, just the barebones shit to run Steam games that hooks into one or two of their shitty, proprietary libraries. No chat, no store, no Steam Input, etc. Nothing except for launching games and playing them.

I found out it was the high polling rate on my mouse. Turned it down to 200 from 1000 on a spare windows system.

Polling rate is a separate issue people are having, this is a new kind of fuckup. In my case, the mouse settings have been the same for a very long time, the only difference was switching off Steam Overlay.

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

I never understood (primarily) Linux users getting extremely autistic and chimping out over people wanting to use Windows or Mac OS as their main OS.

It is the convergence of ideology and autism. Windows and Mac are not open source, and Windows in particular has ads and a ton of telemetry baked in. That's enough to sway people who care about such things to Linux and to get them to evangelize for ideological reasons. Ideologues do not proselytize for the purpose of conversion. They proselytize to cement, in their own minds, the superiority of their beliefs. If the goal were conversion, their arguments would revolve around how Linux could address some specific issue the potential convert has without too many, or too irksome, downsides.

Autists will just screech at anything even slightly different than their preference when it comes to their hyperfixation.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

I found out it was the high polling rate on my mouse. Turned it down to 200 from 1000 on a spare windows system.

Had this issue too and it annoyed me for the longest time until I changed the polling rate. Idk how bugs like that happen.

 

[analrapist]

Autists will just screech at anything even slightly different than their preference when it comes to their hyperfixation.

We certainly WILL NOT. All this anti-autistic bias is so TIRESOME. Autistic people do not RABIDLY DEFEND THEIR HYPERFIXATIONS and only TOTAL RETARDS would believe otherwise. Why are you such a HATER?

 

[Slav Power]

Sailing the high seas for me, Goldberg Emulator is the best. I don't mean a full on replacement, just the barebones shit to run Steam games that hooks into one or two of their shitty, proprietary libraries. No chat, no store, no Steam Input, etc. Nothing except for launching games and playing them.

I use it in conjunction with Steamless to de-Steamify some of the singleplayer games that I lease, as well as to be able to play those I downloaded from the Russian Counter-Strike discussion forum. Steampipe is a DRM by coincidence, not by design. Otherwise you wouldn't have tools to circumvent it on any game and Valve would come cracking down on those tools years ago. Steampipe by design is meant for developers to integrate Steam into their games for features like achievements, Workshop and whatnot, but since devs tend to be lazy, they end up making it work like DRM.

For example, Witcher 3, Postal 2 and BeamNG.Drive on Steam will run without Steam perfectly fine, the developers of these three games did their due diligence so that if you run the executable, but no connection to the Steam client can be established, it'll disable all the Steampipe features and load the game instead of launching the Steam client as a mandatory dependency.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

I never understood (primarily) Linux users getting extremely autistic and chimping out over people wanting to use Windows or Mac OS as their main OS.
Especially when it concerns a program that someone needs that is not available on Linux (e.g., Photoshop, and they do need the advanced functionality), and will always encourage them to try something native (like Gimp or Krita) and if that fails, to try and run Photoshop in Wine or a VM.
Granted, its not Linux's fault that popular apps don't run on it, other then low desktop market share, which is a chicken and egg problem in itself. Some companies like Adobe are essentially niggers in a company form though.
It just seems like an excellent way to prevent new users from using it, and possibly a form of gatekeeping to keep it as the "L33t Hax0r OS" which I think is retarded. Its an Operating System for fucks sake.
Whatever happened to using the best OS for the job? I use Linux because for me, it really is the best OS for the job. But I also keep a Windows machine around for games and extremely niche programs, and I even have a Mac or 2 lying around for shits and giggles.
I also don't get into an autistic chimpout when I see a Windows machine in the wild, but that seems to be uncommon in the Linux world at this point in time.

I just don't want linux full of gamer gorilla niggers. Then causing everything to move towards bazzite like retard proof immutable distros, Because retards like linus tech tips will uninstall their entire desktop otherwise, and not realize you can just install it again with one command.

It's usable now. And it's not like you actually need to know anything to get a normal, just works distro, running now. But that isn't enough retard proofing for the gamers. They need a full andoid like locked down toy os.

I definitely don't think windows is the best tool for the job for most people. On avarage I would bet money the average person isn't actually using photoshop all the time, and similar software, but might use office or something which we have perfectly fine replacements for. But they don't care about what they use, and if it is the best tool for the job. I think they should just keep using the OS they got on their computer when they bought it, like they intend to.

 

[Penne Dreadful]

Then causing everything to move towards bazzite like retard proof immutable distros

Immutable distros are just the current fad. It's not gamers pushing Nix(OS), although there's a significant tranny overlap.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Immutable distros are just the current fad. It's not gamers pushing Nix(OS), although there's a significant tranny overlap.

Nixos you have to be an extreme autist to use.

Ones like bazzite, and bluefag or whatever. Are made so dent heads can't ruin their system. the fedora troons, and their tranny dick suckers are pushing for them, saying they are the future of the Linux desktop. If you install those, maybe android isn't the right comparison, but it's similar to macos. In the sense that they attempt to stop you from making any actual changes. If you need to install anything, you have to use containerized flatpaks, and for anything in a terminal you have to use distrobox, which is just absolute shit. (Btw windows is gay, but if you use Mac just kys)

 

[Slav Power]

What Linux really needs is "self-healing" distros. You know how if you massively fuck up Windows you can just run DISM /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth and it'll magically reinstall and fix all the core elements needed to bring your system back to life, but at the same time there's nothing stopping you from fucking it up that way to begin with? That's the sort of retard proofing Linux needs. Right now it's either "if you fuck it up you need to back up /home and reinstall" or "here's a distro you can't fuck with so that you won't fuck it up".

Unless of course you're the type of "person" that believes Linux should only be for Mensa members that know what each GNU package in their system does and could set up LFS from memory if they wanted to while at the same time expecting people to choose it over Windows or Mac, in which case lol, lmfao

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

What Linux really needs is "self-healing" distros. You know how if you massively fuck up Windows you can just run DISM /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth and it'll magically reinstall and fix all the core elements needed to bring your system back to life, but at the same time there's nothing stopping you from fucking it up that way to begin with? That's the sort of retard proofing Linux needs. Right now it's either "if you fuck it up you need to back up /home and reinstall" or "here's a distro you can't fuck with so that you won't fuck it up".

Unless of course you're the type of "person" that believes Linux should only be for Mensa members that know what each GNU package in their system does and could set up LFS from memory if they wanted to while at the same time expecting people to choose it over Windows or Mac, in which case lol, lmfao

If you put in the effort to set up btrfs. You can essentially get that. You need to either use opensuse if you don't want to do it yourself (idk which other ones actually set it up properly) or read a good bit and format everything, set up the snapshot directories, set up snapper. Set it up with your bootloader to allow you to boot into a snapshot. To check on it, and learn to revert back to it.

 

[Slav Power]

If you put in the effort to set up btrfs

The Windows equivalent of btrfs snapshots are Volume Shadow Copies and Restore Points. DISM serves a different purpose. Linux doesn't have an equivalent to DISM, which pulls info about what system components are needed for the installation to work properly, verifies their integrity and pulls clean versions of them for replacement if it detects something's off. Linux has no safeguards like that, or memory of what the initial base package setup was. If something fucks up, it fucks up. The OS itself has no way of repairing itself. Shadow copies are not self-repair.

 

[Susanna]

Nixos you have to be an extreme autist to use.

It really is terribly convenient when you have multiple computers. For example if I add a new device to my wireguard, I can just add its IP to the tabel in my configuration.nix on my NAS, and it will populate all the computers the next rebuild (which I've also automated through configuration.nix). If I were running a conventional distro, I'd have to add it manually on each one, or more likely add it on the two computers I think are likely to need it, and then have to ssh into one of them to copy it when I eventually need to access it from my laptop or whatever. If I switch from libreoffice to onlyoffice, I just make that change in the configuration.nix and it will populate the others on a rebuild. If my router breaks and I need to quickly swap wireguard server over to my NAS, again that's just one change that automatically populates (only to computers on the local network, but still).

NixOS does get annoying when you need to run python or shell scripts, since those rarely take it into account, but there's steam-run for that (runs a command in an environment that uses conventional Linux paths for everything), and docker (which just works).

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

The Windows equivalent of btrfs snapshots are Volume Shadow Copies and Restore Points. DISM serves a different purpose. Linux doesn't have an equivalent to DISM, which pulls info about what system components are needed for the installation to work properly, verifies their integrity and pulls clean versions of them for replacement if it detects something's off. Linux has no safeguards like that, or memory of what the initial base package setup was. If something fucks up, it fucks up. The OS itself has no way of repairing itself. Shadow copies are not self-repair.

I didn't say it was self repair. It's what Linux has to get back a working system, from something broken.

If you want that for Linux. I guess start writing code and make it yourself. Or move to freebsd where everything from the base system is in in the normal locations, and everything installed by the user is in /use/local. Before you come back to use Linux again because freebsd sucks.

Edit to avoid double post @Susanna see you have to be an extreme autist to use nix

 

[harakirikun]

I want to try a Linux OS, but I want to hear what you guys think I should install. I was thinking of mint but I don’t know…

I don’t want to make any big mistakes like deleting system32 or fucking up my computer in any way