UK U.K. Top Court Says Trans Women Do Not Meet Legal Definition of Women Under Equality Act - The UK Supreme Court says YWNBAW! (although the trans identity is still a protected characteristic)

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The New York Times. Published: 16 April 2025

U.K. Top Court Says Trans Women Do Not Meet Legal Definition of Women Under Equality Act​

Britain’s Supreme Court was asked to rule on whether trans women can be defined as female under a British law that aims to protect against discrimination.

The Supreme Court in Britain ruled on Wednesday that trans women do not fall within the legal definition of women under the country’s equality legislation.

The deputy president of the court, Lord Hodge, said in a summary of the decision: “The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex.”

However, he added: “We counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not.” He said the ruling “does not cause disadvantage to trans people” because they have protections under anti-discrimination and equality laws.

The landmark judgment follows a yearslong legal battle over whether trans women can be regarded as female under the 2010 law, which aims to prevent discrimination on the basis of gender, sexuality, race and other protected characteristics.

The decision was highly anticipated because it could have potentially far-reaching consequences for how the law is applied to single sex spaces, equal pay claims and maternity policies as well as to some of the rights available to transgender people in Britain.

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BBC live reporting; https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t



Also, sex is binary:

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Related:
JK Rowling, the Queen of TERF Island who helped fund this lawsuit, is celebrating.

And the troons are melting down even more than usual over her. See:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21120381
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21129887
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21135630

 

[Colonel Slanders]

The things pooners don't understand is no man cares about them in our spaces as pooners are only a danger to themselves or schoolchildren if they are heavily armed.

I've related the story of the terrified looking pooner I saw once in my gym changing room in another thread. Only one person was in any sort of danger in there and, as she buggered off into one of the few enclosed dressing rooms whilst the rest of got changed as normal, she knew it too.

I've never even seen a pooner IRL. I have seen a woman use a mens public bathroom because she didn't want to/couldn't wait in a line of 30 other women to use their bathroom and literally not a single lad in there cared, she however wore an expression as if she had been dropped behind enemy lines or was a hen in a fox den. It's pretty obvious who is afraid of who. I've also seen a bloke in a dress use the mens room for that exact same reason. I suppose when you need to take shit really bad suddenly feeling heckin valid and womanly takes a back seat, one might argue that's Deceptacon privilege.

That said I really don't want to queue more than a couple minutes when I need to take a shit. If there was ever a queue for the mens as there is for the womens because women were in there I'd be fuming. Lets all stick to our own.

 

[Clem Fandango]

I've never even seen a pooner IRL. I have seen a woman use a mens public bathroom because she didn't want to/couldn't wait in a line of 30 other women to use their bathroom and literally not a single lad in there cared, she however wore an expression as if she had been dropped behind enemy lines or was a hen in a fox den. It's pretty obvious who is afraid of who. I've also seen a bloke in a dress use the mens room for that exact same reason. I suppose when you need to take shit really bad suddenly feeling heckin valid and womanly takes a back seat, one might argue that's Deceptacon privilege.

That said I really don't want to queue more than a couple minutes when I need to take a shit. If there was ever a queue for the mens as there is for the womens because women were in there I'd be fuming. Lets all stick to our own.

Yeah, I'm usually dismissive of "male privelege" arguments, but one area where it's undeniably a thing is the ability to take a slash in a matter of seconds at a sports venue or big concert. I feel so sorry for my wife at these things. Half time? Get ready to queue on some stairs for the entire intermission at the theatre.

Trannies will take this from my cold dead male hands.

 

[chrischanfan]

White women win again, honestly is this a surprise? It's been fun at least, can't wait for the meltdowns

 

[Otterly]

What a wonderful day. I almost feel like cracking a beer.

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Dignity gone? I hate to tell you this himdia but I think your dignity went a very long time ago

Everything is black and white and no nuance exist.
If you disagree on one point you must disagree on all points.
If you dislike a person then all that persons opinions must be bad and you must disagree with all of them.
There can never be partial agreement on some, but not all, points and compromises are impossible.

This is the mindset of either a very young child or someone with emotional and/or intellectual retardation.

It’s also how people with borderline personality disorder think. You’re the best thing ever in the world to be worshipped or you’re the evil baddie. See also the shift in perception on the left over Elon musk. Same thing. They can’t say ‘I think this is good, don’t agree with him on that bit though’ it has to be all goodest of good or baddest of bad.
I wonder about how this sort of thinking has become more prevalent. I think social media plays a big part in it - people are trained to act like this under threat of cancellation and with dopamine/updoots/ability to hurt others as positive reinforcement. I also wonder WHY it’s allowed to increase, but I suppose it benefits anyone who wants to have a load of ready made non thinning attack dogs

 

[teriyakiburns]

She claims Hermoine was Black when we know it's just not true.

I hate to well akchually on this point, but that's not quite how it played out. The context was a bunch of terminally online culture warriors getting in a tizzy about the production of a play (at a high school, I believe), in which a black girl was cast as hermione. Rowling jumped in to the argument say that Hermione could easily be black (IIRC she did make the claim that she never specified Hermione's race, despite proof to the contrary, so she's not entirely without blame for the fallout), but she never said Hermione was black; just that whoever was cast as her in the play didn't actually matter. She was defending the production's choice to use a black girl in the role, not making some categorical statement about Hermione's race. It was blown out of proportion by people looking to be angry at an easily-polarised external group, because twitter is full of people looking to be angry at everything.

"Not a fetish".

Remember that one troon who was protesting something (toilet access, I believe) by covering himself in piss? Definitely not a exhibitionist humiliation fetish at all.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

This is a perfect example of a retarded leftist or a very young child.

I wonder about how this sort of thinking has become more prevalent

There does seem to be some "social engineering" or coddling of "Millennials" and "Zoomers" going on in Current Year. Oh and of course, "social justice" is delusional idiocy.

 

[AltisticRight]

The context was a bunch of terminally online culture warriors getting in a tizzy about the production of a play (at a high school, I believe), in which a black girl was cast as hermione. Rowling jumped in to the argument say that Hermione could easily be black (IIRC she did make the claim that she never specified Hermione's race, despite proof to the contrary, so she's not entirely without blame for the fallout), but she never said Hermione was black; just that whoever was cast as her in the play didn't actually matter. She was defending the production's choice to use a black girl in the role, not making some categorical statement about Hermione's race. It was blown out of proportion by people looking to be angry at an easily-polarised external group, because twitter is full of people looking to be angry at everything.

Well, I must admit that I fell for it too. Good to be corrected.
Honestly though, it's a fictional show, cast whatever and whoever one likes. Who cares? I would hire banker goblins from my local synagogue. They have some pretty good bagels.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

That or,like trans identifying men,people who have suffered sexual abuse at some point. While I loathe enbies and TIFs I feel a bit of pity for them, just a smidge, that I cannot muster for TIMs.

I have infinitely more respect and sympathy for women who transition to men than I do for men who transition to women.

 

[Otterly]

Various ‘trans celebrity) (literal who) meltodwns

https://archive.ph/wdynH

Mainly concerning toilets. Gotta get that sweet toilet validation.
The silly thing here is that if any of them passed it wouldn’t be an issue. If you’re indistinguishable from a woman, nobody would even know you were in there would they?
The bloke saying ‘well I’ll be in there with your husbands then’ as if a straight man confronted with a tranny in a blonde wig would do anything more than think wtf? blink nervously and then get the hell out of there. I’m not worried about my husband, love, he’s not gay nor does he go cottaging in toilets.
They have to be in the toilets, it’s so vital for them, it this story shows that NONE of them passed because if they passed nobody would even know they were in there.
Bonus points for hairy, angry lil pooner growling angrily while showing chest hair, like Manly Men do

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

You have a lot of them walking down the street and deciding they are "passing" since nobody is lynching them out of uncontrollable transphobic rage. They conflate not being called out as passing, when usually it is just people avoiding rudeness, awkwardness, offense, and provocation. The bathroom is where if they are not passing it WILL be called out. They hate that this makes them admit they aren't passing to themselves.

 

[regalterry]

She was defending the production's choice to use a black girl in the role, not making some categorical statement about Hermione's race. It was blown out of proportion by people looking to be angry at an easily-polarised external group, because twitter is full of people looking to be angry at everything.

And yet, if someone were to "miscast" one of her token characters and have him or her be played by a White actor, she'd be singing a very different tune.

 

[esdese]

If only such a ruling had happened in a place that's actually relevant and not a complete shithole...

 

[Muad'Dick]

Various ‘trans celebrity) (literal who) meltodwns

How are they going to defy it? A shit in protest in the closest toilet they can find? Its enshrined in law now. There are no vagaries at play here. Under the eyes of the law there is no difference between one of these abominations being found in the ladies as there is any other old male pervert. The old bill are well within their rights to drag these affronts before God out with extreme prejudice.

Also, thread theme:

 

[Marvin]

It would have been discrimination if they were fired because of their biological sex, but their behavior in the workplace was fair game. Now, that behavior is also protected.

What behavior? There's no new behavior that was enabled. Unless you consider crossdressing a behavior?

This case was about the troon wanting to wear the women's work uniform which included a skirt.

The court ruled that sex discrimination in workwear violated Title VII, so if a man (cis or trans) wanted to wear a skirt, they had to permit him.

If I remember correctly, the workplace in question addressed this by simply eliminating the option for skirts and made everyone wear pants. Easy enough.

Ultimately, this wasn't a huge change because a workplace is already going to be treating men and women employees largely the same. Small differences exist, like skirts, but the fixes for that are largely minor.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

I hate to well akchually on this point, but that's not quite how it played out. The context was a bunch of terminally online culture warriors getting in a tizzy about the production of a play (at a high school, I believe), in which a black girl was cast as hermione. Rowling jumped in to the argument say that Hermione could easily be black (IIRC she did make the claim that she never specified Hermione's race, despite proof to the contrary, so she's not entirely without blame for the fallout), but she never said Hermione was black; just that whoever was cast as her in the play didn't actually matter. She was defending the production's choice to use a black girl in the role, not making some categorical statement about Hermione's race. It was blown out of proportion by people looking to be angry at an easily-polarised external group, because twitter is full of people looking to be angry at everything.


Remember that one troon who was protesting something (toilet access, I believe) by covering himself in piss? Definitely not a exhibitionist humiliation fetish at all.

It wasn't a play at a high school tard. You are deliberately underplaying the cultural undermining.

It was a broad way musical that was the "sequel" to the Harry Potter storyline. It was pretty hyped up and a big deal. It was thought it would become a movie.0 A sequel so bad it makes some of the Star Wars sequels look flattering. A sequel so bad they still haven't made the play into a movie. All of Hollywood looked at the Fantastic Beast movies and then at the play and was like "lets do the Fantastic Beast movies"

 

[CyrusHowler]

the Germans on the other hand wanted to invade you through Mexico

You mean the telegram the UK intercepted and doctored to make look worse than it actually was?

You are our ancient and eternal enemy. I will see the day your dogshit “nation” the size of Oregon crumbles and burns to the ground.
One small victory doesn’t absolve you of anything. Your dystopian hellscape of a homeland still jails people for wrongthink.

 

[lamppost]

You mean the telegram the UK intercepted and doctored to make look worse than it actually was?

You are our ancient and eternal enemy. I will see the day your dogshit “nation” the size of Oregon crumbles and burns to the ground.
One small victory doesn’t absolve you of anything. Your dystopian hellscape of a homeland still jails people for wrongthink.

Don't you jail cops for being assaulted by niggers?

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

Jokes on them. They’ll still throw you in jail for misgendering someone.

 

[Otterly]

What behavior? There's no new behavior that was enabled. Unless you consider crossdressing a behavior?

Yeah. If there’s a uniform and they want to wear the women’s one that’s one thing, I guess that falls under sex discrimination, so wear the polyester pencil skirt, I don’t care. . But there’s too many of them turning up dressed like hookers. That Philip Bunce dude who works at credit suisse who does half the week as ‘Phillipa ‘ and wears fishnets to the office. That kind of thing.
The behaviour it enabled was to compel people to participate in the man’s sexual fetish under threat of punishment, and to engage in compelled speech.

 

[CyrusHowler]

Don't you jail cops for being assaulted by niggers?

Certain left wing states try to, usually ones with the same viewpoints and ideals as the UK Government does on most things.