Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Charred Dinosaur]

Why is Deepstate shilling 1918 German Crimea offensive right now?
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Hohols trying not to fantasize about foreigners using them as a glorified launching pad challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

 

[Slur Generator]

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Nigger still can't dress himself...

So stupid to make not wearing a suit your thing. Kind of reminds me of Tim Pool and his stupid fucking beanie. Wear the suit, you dumb ape!

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

BBC news article here about Klitschko:

Ukraine may have to temporarily give up land for peace, Kyiv Mayor Klitschko tells BBC

Read the comments, it's all people saying don't surrender, to the last man, Ukraine stronk. It's either so tone deaf to be offensive liberals literally wanting mass casualties, or bots?

Trump posted this this morning, I wonder if that conversation with Zelensky doesn't bode well for the non-interventionist talk Trump and his cabinet have been doing:

 

[moocow]

Trump posted this this morning, I wonder if that conversation with Zelensky doesn't bode well for the non-interventionist talk Trump and his cabinet have been doing:

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This is pretty fucking clever. Besides calling the idiot reporter a pet name (that you just know is causing endless seething in the little faggot that his editor can barely contain), he's essentially arguing that the NYT is actively supporting the ongoing death of hohols and Russians alike, as opposed to ending the war and saving lives. There's a jab at Biden in there too, but the swipe at the NYT is the heavy-hitter here and it's fucking effective.

 

[Average Russian Spy]

The worst part about this whole deal is that even if Kikelensky agrees to pulling out all soldiers from land BananMan wants, there's nothing stopping Kike-in-charge from just ordering non-stop terrorist attacks. Look at Crocus for example.
It'd be like if the US suddenly had unfriendly elements streaming into the country. Oh, wait a minute...

 

[Dave The Diver]

Can someone please track down Gerasimov's speech? Because NAFO trannies are talking about how he "confirmed Norks were fighting in Kursk" while so far I can see zero video evidence saying this.

At some point Zelensky is going ot have to be removed from power, he's out of his cotton picking mind.

Elensky is perfectly sane. His goals just happen to be ensuring personal survival and not the survival of Ukrane.

Then he added him to the hohol kill list when the Pope said everyone involved should work for peace.

Oy vey, that's RuZZian disinformation, goy!
Jokes aside, I also distinctly remember this, but apparently all news of this have been diligently scrubbed from open net.

how do you go about it?

Mate, no offense, but I didn't bother reading all the gotchas, "muh equality" and other r*ddit-tier sneed in your post. You're asking how it'll happen? Simple.

• Ban all fighting age citizen males (18-50) from leaving the country. Some will chance fleeing illegally, but they'll be a minority. What will happen to males who are illegals? Hard to say, but my personal guess is that they'll be conscripted as the dregs eventually.
• Start calling up men and sending moobik squads around to round up meat. At first they'll be nice and listen to your complaints and objections. Eventually, as the situation on the front deteriorates, they'll switch to courts and jails as punishment. Final step will be beating the shit out of you until you finally sign conscription papers.
• Congrats! You're now trench meat.

You think these "pussy liberal govs" won't have the balls to do this? You think "muh veneer of egalitariasm"? Fuck no. We've seen their true colors during COVID globally or nation-specific incidents below over the years:

• Canada's Trucker Protests
• French Yellow Vest Protests
• British "Anti Rape Gang" Protests

Never underestimate the State's capacity for violence. They absolutely WILL send you to the trenches if they decide it's necessary. Objections from browns? Suppress them in media and on the internet using any number of tools currently employed against conservatives anywhere in the western world.

You think I'm pessimistic/cynical? Nyet. It is you who is not realistic enough.

Not trying to insult you though. I get triggered when people say "it'll never happen here because.... our government is too nice/retarded/scared of "muh gunz" (in case of America)". Please enjoy this cute gif of Buhanochka sleeping as a sign of my sincerity.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

I think I am getting tired of the constant flip flopping. Each day same news, another township captured, another spergout by kike, another non-commital by putin. There are so many nice things to do with your life, why keep aggravating yourself. This post goes nowhere but ye, I kinda feel like this cat whenever I enter this thread.

 

[warhammerautist]

Think Gerasimov's speech is legit if no Russian media is denying it. Everyone was hyping up how Ukraine was kicking so much north Korean ass in Kursk, so I think it would make great insult to injury to say north Koreans were involved to imply that they got their ass kicked in Kursk in the end by north Koreans.

 

[Dave The Diver]

I recognised the Madonna and Child composition of the picture but I didn't know what it was trying to say or symbolise.

The charitable interpretation of the icon is that "Christ is gone/turned away from the world" because of what's happening in Ukraine.
But then again, if I hand you a piece of dog shit on a plate with some chives sprinkled on top the "charitable interpretation" of that is that I'm trying to feed you...

The former Pope probably didn't want to make more waves. Or he really was a commie because it's not the first time he flirted with controversy.

But all the cope about “meat waves” was total fiction

It's ALWAYS been fiction. Not even Norks did meat waves in the Korean War (they advanced at night and tried to use terrain for concealment).

Kind of reminds me of Tim Pool and his stupid fucking beanie

Tim is just trying to cover up his bald spot. At least he has that excuse.

I think I am getting tired of the constant flip flopping. Each day same news, another township captured, another spergout by kike, another non-commital by putin. There are so many nice things to do with your life, why keep aggravating yourself. This post goes nowhere but ye, I kinda feel like this cat whenever I enter this thread.

There's no harm in taking a break for a few weeks or even months. I did that last year because the "need" for constant battlefield updates was really grinding me down and when I resumed following events I drastically limited what sources I use to inform myself about the war (only the finest schizophrenic shitposters for this zigger).
Take a break if you feel this way. Come back in a few months. No harm asking a for a QRD on anything you might have missed. At worst you'll get some links you'll have to read yourself. Personally, I'm a fan of Simp76 for "big picture" updates.

Nice KOT. Here's mine. His name is "Semen":

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Personally, I'm a fan of Simp76 for "big picture" updates.

I was following his substack until he made the "the POWERS THAT BE are out to get me" post and started paywalling. If you want to grift, be open about it, dont try to hide behind some faggy excuse.

 

[Dave The Diver]

After reading the Sputnik article that @Useful_Mistake shared I went to the Russian MID site and find the original sauce (this is official RU MID english translation). The pertinent part:

The soldiers of the Korean People's Army, in accordance with the Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between Russia and the DPRK, which entered into force on December 4, 2024, fought shoulder to shoulder, in the same trench and shed blood with our soldiers and officers in the Kursk Region and made a significant contribution to the liberation of the Russian land from the enemy invaders.

@Charred Dinosaur - Taken at word value the above implies Norks were fighting on the frontlines at some capacity. Maybe the reason Ukies were never able to capture any is because Norks were used to secure trenches/hard points that were already taken after Russian sturmbats.

Anyway, that's based! RuZZia living up to the "Aziatic Hordes" stereotype.

If you want to grift, be open about it, dont try to hide behind some faggy excuse.

Trying to turn a hobby into something that can become your fulltime job isn't "grift". Simp is just trying to get paid for the service he provides. Annoying, but he hasn't gone overboard with paid articles and this doesn't make his free articles any worse. In fact he often reposts pieces of paid articles some weeks down the line to inflate his word count becausa he's so nice.
On /chug/ we had an Indian guy who was subbed to Simp and he would occasionally share a PDF of the paid articles, but that's gone now. Regardless, I'd rather Simp earn some shekels and keep doing this instead of having to quit.
All that said, his "powers that be are after me and I have to put some content behind a paywall so they don't see" cope was peak-level retarded. No argument there.

 

[Betonhaus]

I think I am getting tired of the constant flip flopping. Each day same news, another township captured, another spergout by kike, another non-commital by putin. There are so many nice things to do with your life, why keep aggravating yourself. This post goes nowhere but ye, I kinda feel like this cat whenever I enter this thread.

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I just skim the threads. you develop an eye for what content you can completely ignore.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

I think I am getting tired of the constant flip flopping. Each day same news, another township captured, another spergout by kike, another non-commital by putin. There are so many nice things to do with your life, why keep aggravating yourself. This post goes nowhere but ye, I kinda feel like this cat whenever I enter this thread.

Just don't get so invested man. I've followed this war since it started and have never once been aggravated or stressed because I know there's nothing any of us can do about it. I'm happy enough knowing Russia are winning because I feel they are just.

Don't end up emotionally invested like the other thread, look at the spergouts over there. Don't be like that.

 

[Iamthesun]

The truth is the first casualty of war. If the Norks actually put boots on the ground we won't know for sure until the SMO is done.

 

[Dave The Diver]

The truth is the first casualty of war. If the Norks actually put boots on the ground we won't know for sure until the SMO is done.

Mate, we have on the record public statements from both Russia's Ministry of Defense and Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirming that Nork soldiers (not tourists, but troops) were present in Kursk. The only question is in what capacity they were there, but given the quote "fought shoulder to shoulder, in the same trench and shed blood with our soldiers and officers in the Kursk Region" we can assume they saw direct combat at some points.

Pic unrelated. A blast from the past
>Report on your successes
>In the Kherson direction we stole a racoon...
Update: that racoon now lives in Moscow with a family as a veteran and honorary SMO participant.

 

[Kane Lives]

I was following his substack until he made the "the POWERS THAT BE are out to get me" post and started paywalling. If you want to grift, be open about it, dont try to hide behind some faggy excuse.

Simp fell into the standard e-celeb cycle of sniffing his own farts until he got high. He spins a good yarn, I'll give you that, but I cannot take him seriously after he waxed poetic about AI after demonstrating he knew absolutely zilch about the topic. Anything that isnt summarising or analysing news articles on the war I'll take with a giant grain of salt. He writes like a man who likes to pretend he knows more than he really does.

BigSerge, on the other hand, I been following for his infrequent but fairly neutral take on the strict military-political movements on the war.

 

[TexWiller]

- who's gonna conscripted, white euros? immigrants? who do you think is willing to die for the "european economic zone"?

see below

Mate, no offense, but I didn't bother reading all the gotchas, "muh equality" and other r*ddit-tier sneed in your post. You're asking how it'll happen? Simple.

i agree 100% on this take. people will receive conscription papers and will go queue to get their rifle and uniform. else, they will lose their job, be debanked, their kids will be conscripted instead (they will be conscripted anyway), and so on; cops/body snatcher patrols will be istituted and they will comply to their orders like any ordinary cop does and even better because that will keep them away from the front. C19 was the perfect blueprint. you will not be able to hide because your neighbour will report you, like many bastards did during lockdowns. and many brainwashed idiots will run to enlist because muh democracy and freedom. i heard of people who just got the 5th dose.

the real issues are others: european countries no longer have the infrastructure to accomodate (dont know if the large hospitals built for C19 and never used are still there), feed, train and equip large amounts of conscripts. and it will take years to organize that but as for the european governments not doing it, dont count on it. they can do it and they will. kaja kallas and dracula want it and will have it.

of course it will be a shit army of unfit, overweight, overage, demotivated couch surfers with no idea whatsoever on how to pull a trigger and commanded by incompetent bureaucrats who got their training in CoD. the large number of NCO and CO necessary to run any sizeable military operation simply do not exist. but do you think the likes of starmer or macron will shed a tear for 100 thousands folks get massacred in 2 weeks by whatever country they will manage to provoke into a war?
they have millions of riffraff from turd world ready to replace those 100 thousands.

 

[ZMOT]

Not trying to insult you though. I get triggered when people say "it'll never happen here because.... our government is too nice/retarded/scared of "muh gunz" (in case of America)".

ok, let's go with this. your argument it nothing ever happens, so all the coups, riots, violent overthrows and civil wars that ever happened only did because the TPTB allowed them to, to their own demise? this obviously doesn't make any sense.

I take it you're not a yuro, who have a millennia long history to start a war or two if shit isn't peaches and sunshine - and that's before the influx of demographic replacements.
fucking france has constant chimpouts, trucks of peace and knife attacks all over europe, racial tensions higher than ever, and THIS is who you want to conscript and give weapons to? are you really sure that this is your argument?

agree 100% on this take. people will receive conscription papers and will go queue to get their rifle and uniform. else, they will lose their job, be debanked, their kids will be conscripted instead (they will be conscripted anyway), and so on; cops/body snatcher patrols will be istituted and they will comply to their orders like any ordinary cop does and even better because that will keep them away from the front. C19 was the perfect blueprint. you will not be able to hide because your neighbour will report you, like many bastards did during lockdowns. and many brainwashed idiots will run to enlist because muh democracy and freedom. i heard of people who just got the 5th dose.

if you base your evidence around a time were people had money and a house in comparison to when they don't, I don't know what to tell you. yeah sure, everyone will comply, how that works we can see in this very thread. you CAN NOT run your whole army like a penal battalion, even if you had the logistics, manpower or will, and that's before you go into morale, fighting spirit or basic shit like not finding a live grenade in your tent later like it happened in vietnam.

will there be a hollywood moment where everyone rises up, defeat the evil oppressors to a hans zimmer soundtrack and everybody claps when the sunrises come up? hardly. you only need to take one fucking look at the yugoslavian war to see how bad shit can get.

the romans figured out over 2000 years ago you need bread and circuses to keep your population compliant. where is your compliance if they not only take your bread and circuses, but also your sons (which never happened during covid, thus making the whole comparison moot)? again, this doesn't mean going out in a blaze of glory no one will remember, subversion and rebellion isn't always violent - it's just the last and final stage. but how much does it really take for someone to take their grievances out on an government official, especially if there's nothing else to lose anyway? there's a reason everyone says to never back an animal into a corner, not because it will "rise up", but because it will react irrationally. TPTB can't even prevent chimpouts right fucking now, but I'm sure they will when everything's worse and everyone's desperate.

 

[TexWiller]

everyone says to never back an animal into a corner

true, but to be honest i dont see many animals in europe now. i see tons of spineless morons who will accept any abuse and even add some self inflicted abuse just in case. without even complaining, except maybe some angry posts on farcebook which will immediately shadowbanned.

the complete control over communication and money governments have now was the last element in a system where everyone is worse than a serf. people look at me funny or even laugh at me because i use cash and use the cellphone to make phone calls and not to run my life.

even tho asymmetric warfare against these corrupt central states would be easy and cheap (a speed camera cost 100k, a bullet to disable it 50 cents), and very successful, nobody does shit, they just comply and obey. maybe you are right that at some stage people will realize they have nothing to lose, but it doesnt look good.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Can someone please track down Gerasimov's speech?

It's been posted twice at least already.