The Elder Scrolls

Robin's Donuts said:
So let me get this straight - they re-released an almost 20 year old game but didn't fix any of the underlying problems of the gameplay that mods themselves fixed and did a sprinkling of SJW bullshit?

Whack.

Can you imagine taking a time machine from 2006 to 2025 and then finding out everyone is playing the same shit but with better graphics?
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Zoomers dont like watching movies past the year 2000, im pretty sure this was the only way you'd make any money or gain any fans for oblivion at this point.
 
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genericlurker777 said:
Zoomers dont like watching movies past the year 2000, im pretty sure this was the only way you'd make any money or gain any fans for oblivion at this point.
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Games too.. Most normie "gamers" won't touch things older than 2 or 3 years without a remaster or remake. I remember back in the day ~2 decades or more ago, learning this depressing truth when i started seeing more and more comments on gaming sites to the effect "yeah, but that game is ___ old" when not even talking about classics but just older same gen games.
 
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pikachudidnothingwrong said:
Games too.. Most normie "gamers" won't touch things older than 2 or 3 years without a remaster or remake. I remember back in the day ~2 decades or more ago, learning this depressing truth when i started seeing more and more comments on gaming sites to the effect "yeah, but that game is ___ old" when not even talking about classics but just older same gen games.
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It's not just that either. The average age of anybody who played Oblivion is in the 30s. A fanbase needs youth if its going to survive and its for multiple reasons. If TES6 is really coming at some point, then this release is serving multiple portions to that purpose and one of them is definitely curating a new customer base.
 
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crowabunga said:
The fuck, they're that fast?

I never got the point of nude mods, what's the point of that level of titillation in games as stiff and awkward as Bethesda titles? Might as well alt-tab to a Playboy archive every few minutes while playing the game and you'd get a better experience than seeing tits bolted onto Bethesda's monstrosities.
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Multitasking is hard and that UE5 haa got to be usedul somehow.
 
crowabunga said:
The fuck, they're that fast?

I never got the point of nude mods, what's the use of titillation in games as stiff and awkward as Bethesda titles? It's incongruous. Might as well alt-tab to a Playboy archive every few minutes while playing the game and you'd get a better experience than seeing tits bolted onto Bethesda's monstrosities.
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You have to remember that a lot of these mods will work with character model packs, high res packs and other things that make the characters look... not like ES/FO characters.
Because it's fun and we can.. This is a favorite SJ talking point and tactic.. It's different than looking at porn or nude sites. I's like looking at swimsuit or other such types of media.. yeah sure, porn exists but that's not what i'm looking at swimsuits for. Same with nudity.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
Even more pathetic because you can make original Oblivion look good already. This makes the "muh graphics" part of the demaster even less necessary, unless you're a console pleb. You can mod Fallout 3/New Vegas to look like a modern game too, it's nothing special and certainly not worth a re-release.
Also, we're being generous and pretending that soulless UE5 slop without any art direction actually looks good to begin with.
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But muh 9000k textures and 69bit executable. Oblivion was literally unplayable at my local IMAX screen! We needed this update!
 
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I'd be less opposed to this "remaster" if they weren't selling it for full retail and charging you for Horse Armour all over again. No amount of Todd Howard memes will make that acceptable. That they've changed so little only reinforces my point. You're paying for a graphical uplift of a 19 year old game and it's DLC. And it's not even as good as Daggerfall.
 
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In my opinion each TES game has its own strengths and weaknesses. Its frustrating because you can see the potential in the games, I guess that's why they have such big modding scenes.

Never played Arena/Daggerfall so no comment there, I'll give it a shot some day.

Morrowind's biggest strength is the unique alien handcrafted world that doesn't feel like generic fantasy. It doesn't hold your hand with quest arrows and gives you actual meaningful choices like picking which house you align with, which encourages replaying since you won't see all the content in one playthrough. It's biggest weakness is that most of the NPC's are static wiki-dumps that just stand in one spot for their whole life.

Oblivion's biggest strength is the general atmosphere and the radiant ai. I really like that NPC's have complex schedules they follow, it helps make the world feel more alive. It can also can make some hilarious events take place which will feel unique to your playthrough. I would say Oblivion has the most memorable questlines and characters, the whole Dark Brotherhood questline as an example is very fun and immersive. The weird silly atmosphere of the game and the jankiness worked perfectly for the Shivering Isles. Its weaknesses have been discussed here to death, but I would say the biggest two are the counter-intuitive leveling & scaling and the fact that the majority of the game is procedurally generated, which prioritized quantity over quality. After closing a couple oblivion gates who wants to do that 50 more times?

Skyrim's admittedly a trickier one to talk about with being biased because it's my least favorite. Most, if not all of the improvements are technical improvements, like graphics and sound elements. The scaling is a big improvement from Oblivion. While I wouldn't call the combat "good" it still feels like an improvement over the other games. But lets face it, combat was never a high point of any TES game or what draws people to the series. Lots of the scenery/visuals have held up extremely well. On the other hand lots of the RPG elements have been stripped down and simplified, and the faction questline's stories are mostly terrible. Dragons are an absolute chore to fight. Radiant quests are boring. So on and So on.
 
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Meriasek said:
Give me Morrowind where I can down 50 bottles of Sujamma and beat several gods to death with my bare hands.
Oh, with this character's death the thread of fate has been severed? Fuck you, you're gonna catch drug-fortified hands next!
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I want to be able to kill quest-critical NPCs. I want to be able to kill Martin Septim if I want to and plunge the world into darkness.
 
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Prophetic Spirit said:
Not even cut content.
Only QoL shit nobody cares.
It's sad.
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this is the part where you fall down and bleed to death that irks me the most, if you are going to remaster/remake something at least have some balls and put back cutting room floor shit now that you don't have technical limitations of old to hold you back.
but that would be too much to ask from a bunch of frenchies and SEAmonkeys.
 
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Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
Fun fact: Nvidia made a dungeon mod just to show off the new lighting.
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Which was initially unoptimized as all hell, to the point that not even the then-new GTX 1080 could run it without massive frame dips due to the author's overuse of godrays and inexperience with CE. The mod (Vault 1080) was mocked as a typical Nvidia marketing stunt that blew up in their faces and represented their true mediocrity.
The happy ending is that the author spent his spare time fixing the mod (cleaning up duplicates, optimizing occlusion and godrays, fixing precombines, etc) to a workable and acceptable state that showcases how volumetric lighting could look like in F4 compared to the less-intensive standard.
 
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FireAddictedPsychopath said:
I honestly cant wait until insane asylums and water tight legal jargon of what men and women are biologically and legally defined as obvious so all these ugly retarded tranny faggots can fuck off a tall building. Nexus mods needs a serious purge of the moderation team if it ever changes owners. Should Jewshua Moon make a kiwifarms version of nexus mods? That would be hella based and another source of income im sure.
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We already have Doom wads so maybe thats a start?
 
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this is why i also didnt play skyrim, too woke
 
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