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skykiii said:
Of course, not only is this fanfic-tier garbage, it's literally adapted from a fanfic.
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From what I remember it was adapted from an official 7th doctor thing that just wasn't an aired episode. I know other people have pointed this issue out I'm about to bring up a number of times, but there's references on occasion to non-tv episode stuff in doctor who's modern era as like little one off statements which makes it fucking weird when they sometimes then decide to adapt that as a new thing. I don't think that was one of the stories referenced but I could be remembering that wrong and it's one of those weird cases.

Also it's a boon that it came out before turning every time period and location into modern LA's demographics became a thing so you got the racism in the time period that actually makes sense and isn't just occasionally referenced as existing and bad/scary because WHYTE PEOPLE? HATE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!.
 
The Lawgiver said:
From what I remember it was adapted from an official 7th doctor thing that just wasn't an aired episode.
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I'm aware of the Virgin New Adventures (as opposed to the pregnant new adventures, I guess).

It's just, even when those episodes first aired I thought the premise was dumb, and its been one of those cases where I feel like the only person who hates those episodes. I want to see Doctor Who (I know that's not his name--all real whovians know his name is Theta Sigma) travel time and space, not some normal guy in 1913 so we can have soft commentaries on "wow the world used to really suck, didn't it?"

And of course the episode does all the cliches. The very important macguffin gets stolen by some random kid just so we can string the plot along a bit.... just, everything annoys me about this story.
 
ShortPoppy said:
As others have already said, I wonder why they set Lux in the 1950s? The most dramatically impactful time period for a story about a monster made of light would be the early days of cinema / late 19th century, I thought.

Also, dare I say they're doing the woke better than before: there were brief mentions of segregation, and whoever Rock Hudson was, but they didn't overwhelm the actual plot or dialogue. Seems like a better compromise between the diehard SJW types and people who just want to enjoy an adventure story.

Just like Aliss from The Well wondering why a nurse doesn't know sign language, but not giving her a hard time about it. (Though you'd think by then they'd have cures for deafness, but no, 21st century earth values must prevail throughout time and space.)
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The preaching was at its worst in the 13th Doctor's era, which is really sad because Jodie had to not only put up with bad scripts but also terrible characterization. Say what you will about Gatwa and how he plays the Doctor, but at least you can pin down his personality.
 
Sorry -- I'm sure this has been discussed, but what do people think about the new black Doctor? I've always been of the opinion that the doctor changing race with a regeneration makes some sense, but never bought him changing gender. I doubt the writing has improved much even though Davies is back, but how about the doctor as a character/performance?

I'm also curious. how were the three specials that had Tennant and Donna? The last thing I watched was the end of Capaldi's run (and when I think about going back to his last series all I can think of is "History's a whitewash" and I change my mind). Seeing Tennant and the best nu-Who companion reunite could be tempting but not if the writing is trash.

I also noticed how crap the viewership numbers are for these past couple seasons, but I've been re-watching Breaking Bad lately and realized series 14 and 15 have gotten more UK viewers than BB did in US viewers up until its last 8 episodes. Now idk what factors could be at play but that's pretty depressing.
 
I heard a rumor that Disney is looking to buy Doctor Who. I hope that's just a rumor...

Like, when I heard the rumors that Amazon wants to buy James Bond, I was actually a little offended. There's something wrong with characters who were created to be British icons being owned by American companies. It would be like Johnny Appleseed being owned by China.
 
Internet Douchewhore said:
Sorry -- I'm sure this has been discussed, but what do people think about the new black Doctor? I've always been of the opinion that the doctor changing race with a regeneration makes some sense, but never bought him changing gender. I doubt the writing has improved much even though Davies is back, but how about the doctor as a character/performance?

I'm also curious. how were the three specials that had Tennant and Donna? The last thing I watched was the end of Capaldi's run (and when I think about going back to his last series all I can think of is "History's a whitewash" and I change my mind). Seeing Tennant and the best nu-Who companion reunite could be tempting but not if the writing is trash.

I also noticed how crap the viewership numbers are for these past couple seasons, but I've been re-watching Breaking Bad lately and realized series 14 and 15 have gotten more UK viewers than BB did in US viewers up until its last 8 episodes. Now idk what factors could be at play but that's pretty depressing.
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The specials with Tennant and Donna were complete trash. I've forgotten the plot, because it took a back seat to the woke olympics going on. Donna is back, and she's got a mixed-race half black "daughter," who was born male. This is referenced over and over again. This character of no importance takes up a bulk of the episode. I think they were setting up "her" to be the Doctor's next companion, which flopped miserably because "her " acting skills are shite. There's an alien that looks cute but wants to take over the world, or something, but what's really important is that we respect the alien's pronouns. There's a whole scene where Tennant is scolded by the tranny for assuming the alien's pronouns. Yes, really. The cherry on top of the shite sundae is when the tranny and Donna berate the Doctor for being "male-presenting" and save the day from the evil alien. Overall, watch this only if ypu enjoy being condescended at every five minutes. 🎩
 
Internet-Police12 said:
The specials with Tennant and Donna were complete trash. I've forgotten the plot, because it took a back seat to the woke olympics going on. -snip-
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It's even worse than you mentioned.

You forgot the part with Sir Issac Newton (Who looks like this for some reason.)
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Anyway, even before being played by the actual faggot, 14 admits that he's a faggot too now, because he wanted to fuck the brown man.
 
UnKillFill said:
Anyway, even before being played by the actual faggot, 14 admits that he's a faggot too now, because he wanted to fuck the brown man.
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Let's not forget that the real problem with this is that the Doctor shouldn't be a sexual character at all. For decades he was played as basically asexual and as an advanced alien, that's probably how it should be.

That's always been one of my gripes with post-2005 Doctor Who. All the sudden the guy is driven by his libido and it makes a lot of his interactions creepy. Of course, the reason is because the post-millennium world is incapable of envisioning a being who isn't driven by sex, and the authors are seeing the Doctor as an outlet for their own fantasies.
 
skykiii said:
That's always been one of my gripes with post-2005 Doctor Who. All the sudden the guy is driven by his libido and it makes a lot of his interactions creepy.
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I agree with you on that one. I mean, the Doctor basically should be viewing us humans in the same way as viewing plankton. He shouldn't be getting all hot & bothered instead... LOL
 
Internet Douchewhore said:
Sorry -- I'm sure this has been discussed, but what do people think about the new black Doctor? I've always been of the opinion that the doctor changing race with a regeneration makes some sense, but never bought him changing gender. I doubt the writing has improved much even though Davies is back, but how about the doctor as a character/performance?

I'm also curious. how were the three specials that had Tennant and Donna? The last thing I watched was the end of Capaldi's run (and when I think about going back to his last series all I can think of is "History's a whitewash" and I change my mind). Seeing Tennant and the best nu-Who companion reunite could be tempting but not if the writing is trash.

I also noticed how crap the viewership numbers are for these past couple seasons, but I've been re-watching Breaking Bad lately and realized series 14 and 15 have gotten more UK viewers than BB did in US viewers up until its last 8 episodes. Now idk what factors could be at play but that's pretty depressing.
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He's likable and while the crying thing is overdone still embodies what I look for in the Doctor's character. Not sure about the singing, but musicals are divisive anyway.
 
Pagan Min said:
I agree with you on that one. I mean, the Doctor basically should be viewing us humans in the same way as viewing plankton. He shouldn't be getting all hot & bothered instead... LOL
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Nowadays we're just 1 google search away from finding people who are into plankton...
 
Pagan Min said:
I agree with you on that one. I mean, the Doctor basically should be viewing us humans in the same way as viewing plankton. He shouldn't be getting all hot & bothered instead... LOL
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You can pretty much see all the incarnations of the Doctors viewing us as something akin to pets. You wouldn't want to fuck your housecat right? Well nuWho at times messes that up so it's annoying to see such inconsistency in the continuity of the series.
 
starborn427614 said:
I'm sure this week's episode will be divisive, but it mostly worked for me.
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Honestly it feels like it was a last second addition just to ensure they met an episode quota, but as a general story it wasn't too bad. I think it was a fairly good episode, all things considered honestly.
 
DEAD BIRD said:
Honestly it feels like it was a last second addition just to ensure they met an episode quota, but as a general story it wasn't too bad. I think it was a fairly good episode, all things considered honestly.
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I liked the Doctor being protective of Ruby, it's a side this incarnation typically doesn't let loose.
 
skykiii said:
Let's not forget that the real problem with this is that the Doctor shouldn't be a sexual character at all. For decades he was played as basically asexual and as an advanced alien, that's probably how it should be.
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True, but remember who the first companion was. His granddaughter. Now that might mean something different to a Time Lord. Maybe they reproduce by budding or something. And I remember almost all the Fourth Doctor's companions were hotties including barbarian cutie Leela. Sarah Jane Smith was hardly shabby either.

Sure he was a perfect gentleman with them but Time Lords have always been (for some reason) humanoid and generally did not act like aloof gods, or at least the Doctor in particular didn't. He's always had an affinity for humans after his period trapped on Earth, which pretty much started with the end of Troughton.
 
Internet Douchewhore said:
Sorry -- I'm sure this has been discussed, but what do people think about the new black Doctor? I've always been of the opinion that the doctor changing race with a regeneration makes some sense, but never bought him changing gender. I doubt the writing has improved much even though Davies is back, but how about the doctor as a character/performance?
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I agree about race, but I find Gatwa's Dr generally insufferable. Apart from the overdone campiness and emotionality, he just doesn't fit the role. He's incapable of looking serious, wise or threatening, or balancing those qualities against moments of compassion and tenderness like previous actors have. He can dance and pull off a cheeky grin, but that's it. He just doesn't have the acting range.

skykiii said:
Let's not forget that the real problem with this is that the Doctor shouldn't be a sexual character at all. For decades he was played as basically asexual and as an advanced alien, that's probably how it should be.

That's always been one of my gripes with post-2005 Doctor Who. All the sudden the guy is driven by his libido and it makes a lot of his interactions creepy. Of course, the reason is because the post-millennium world is incapable of envisioning a being who isn't driven by sex, and the authors are seeing the Doctor as an outlet for their own fantasies.
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It started before Nu Who - remember when Doctor #8 / Paul McGann pashed his American surgeon companion in the 1995 movie?
As a kid who'd grown up watching reruns of the Tom Baker and Peter Davison eras, I hated that - to me the Doctor was meant to be an uncle/teacher/leader figure, not a romantic hero.
 
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