Debate Users @NickDigger and @Americunt on Ethics in Video Game Journalism

[Skitarii]

Not to derail too muchDid we learn nothing from Gamergate? I understand not wanting gay politics shoved down your throat when you just wanna play vidya, but can we maybe step back for a second and realize these are luxery problems for people with enough surplus time and money on their hands to play new video games anyway. Does the world really need 5000 videos a month about how Sony is trying to extinguish the white race by putting out a shitty game with a fat black lesbian protagonist? Do you need every new Triple A slop that's released into the slough of the steam front page to be idealogically consistent with your (milquetoast and half-hearted) center-right viewpoint?

He's a fag too but Gavin McInnes was right when he called this shit for how gay and childish it is.

"Oh these are luxury problems, stop caring so much". Ok sure, then you can quit whining about Disneyberg casting Qwantrel Niggersmith and Dyke Nonbinary Mutant in Star Wars: Spiderman buttfucks Boba Fett as an example of America's collapse.

CAN YOU STEP BACK FOR A SECOND AND UNDERSTAND HOW FUCKING GAY AND RETARDED YOU ARE FOR CARING ABOUT THIS?

@Americunt

It's pretty obvious you don't understand what gamergate's about, or why it got kicked off to begin, or why it made a previously apolitical industry like video games a culture war battleground for over a decade, so maybe refrain from speaking about things you know nothing about.

Also lol mad.

It's pretty obvious you should eat a gun if you think Gamergate mattered politically.

FTFY retard. Why are you even here anyway, what matters in the grand scheme of things to mock and gossip about internet retards?

Yah we really blew the case wide open Oliver Stone style with Gamergate, who could forget Jim Metokur's moving testimony infront of the Senate that led to the unanimous resolution banning the inclusion of gay politics in vidya games.

Anyway to your point, I come here half for entertainment, and half to keep an eye on the potential skeletons personalities on the internet have in their closets so I can make an informed choice in who I support, case in point: the metalhead anti-woke grifter I used to watch occasionally, being a pathetic pedophile. Can we please focus on that instead of pretending that something as retarded as ethics in gaming journalism is more important than RF being a piece of shit?

So laughing at retards who have all the cultural impact of a cashew (and, like Razorfist, are so egotistical they believe otherwise) takes importance over facing left-wing, nepotistic rot in a multi-billion dollar industry, got it.

Last post I promise: what has gamergate actually accomplished that you feel me mocking it is such an affront? In my view, other than providing a market for anti-woke grifters like Razorfist to make money hand over fist, not a whole hell of a lot. If you want to waste what little precious time you have on this earth getting hot and bothered over an industry that has perfected the production of slop, for producing said slop, when you could just not buy said slop and do something more productive with your life, that's your choice. I think you're a worthless faggot who should kill themself, but if that's how you really want to live your life I respect your decision.

 

[batterybee]

I think that is is true that gamergayte achieved no political outcomes, it did however act as a catalyst issue that got lots of people engaged in political thought pretty early in life, granted most of the political thinking done by those involved was of a low quality(retarded).
It acted as the early predecessor to the modern culture war and helped identify friend-enemy distinctions which is probably the only real upside.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I understand not wanting gay politics shoved down your throat when you just wanna play vidya, but can we maybe step back for a second and realize these are luxery problems for people with enough surplus time and money on their hands to play new video games anyway. Does the world really need 5000 videos a month about how Sony is trying to extinguish the white race by putting out a shitty game with a fat black lesbian protagonist?

It's liberal propaganda and social engineering, either you're for it or against it.

CAN YOU STEP BACK FOR A SECOND AND UNDERSTAND HOW FUCKING GAY AND RETARDED YOU ARE FOR CARING ABOUT THIS?

You sure seem to care more that he cares than he actually cares. Ain't that ironic...?

Yah we really blew the case wide open Oliver Stone style with Gamergate, who could forget Jim Metokur's moving testimony infront of the Senate that led to the unanimous resolution banning the inclusion of gay politics in vidya games.

"we didn't ban the gay agenda, therefore we should not oppose it"

Kill yourself?

If you want to waste what little precious time you have on this earth getting hot and bothered over an industry that has perfected the production of slop, for producing said slop, when you could just not buy said slop and do something more productive with your life, that's your choice.

If you want to waste what little precious time you have on this earth getting hot and bothered over critics of an industry that has perfected the production of woke propaganda, for producing said woke propaganda, when you could just not comment on people who state they won't buy said woke propaganda and do something more productive with your life, that's your choice.

I think that is is true that gamergayte achieved no political outcomes

I agree, even someone like me didn't follow it so it was a blip on the radar, I still barely even understand the origins of it (slut fucked a game urinalist for positive coverage of her shitty game?) or what its goals were (hold journalists to a higher standard of ethics?).

it did however act as a catalyst issue that got lots of people engaged in political thought pretty early in life

If so that's a good thing and actually is achieving a political outcome.

It acted as the early predecessor to the modern culture war and helped identify friend-enemy distinctions which is probably the only real upside.

Definitely a huge upside, sounds like it made people aware of what's going on, more critical. The culture war is real and there's only two sides, plus the retarded neutral position.

And for the record, angrily telling anti-SJWs you're (not you) not interested in the culture war and that you're above it, but that anti-SJWs should totally stop resisting the woke mind virus and are just as bad as SJWs or worse isn't actually a true neutral/indifferent position, it's this:

 

[Americunt]

@SSj_Ness (Yiffed) I really don't care to
discuss this further. If you really think Gamergate achieved anything other than giving a bunch of disenfranchised people who are terminally online another dead-end distraction to sublimate their political energy in to rather than focus on issues that actually matter, then I don't know what to tell you. If you think you're some soujourn truth teller for noticing the obvious; that video games made by large studios suck now and creatives inject their own gay political worldview in to the content they produce, I think you might actually be retarded. Doubly so if you think arming yourself with this "knowledge" puts you a step above normal people in understanding the rot that's taken over our world.

Do you weep with pride when looking at this image and think to yourself "We did it guys *sniffs* We really brought ethics to gaming journalism"

 

[Großmann]

Donald Trump would not have happened if it wasn’t for GG. Without GG, Youtube skeptics and Twitter right wingers wouldn’t have flourished, 8chan wouldn’t have been a thing, video game fags wouldn’t have woken up to the progressive subversion that people up til then only barely perceived, etc. GG also encouraged the worst tendencies of progressives online, which helped make them look awful to many voters in 2016.

Did GG save video games? No, but also yes. No because progressives still dominate the industry and went unchecked until very recently. Yes because online game journalism is just about dead and replaced by Youtubers that actually like video games or at least manage to shut up about politics depending on your pick. Also yes because the sustained vocal resistance to SJW/woke/ESG/pozz/whatever we call it now has made big publishers think twice about going too far and also sends the demand signal for games that aren’t full of lefty messaging.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

Next you're gonna tell me Billy Mitchell is an AMERICAN HERO who OWNED the libtards by beating Karl in court... Oh wait.

 

[Gog & Magog]

It's liberal propaganda and social engineering, either you're for it or against it.

"You either stand with us or you stand with the terrorists libtards."
-George Bush
-SSJ_Ness (YIFFED)

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

If you think you're some soujourn truth teller for noticing the obvious; that video games made by large studios suck now and creatives inject their own gay political worldview in to the content they produce, I think you might actually be retarded.

If it was so obvious, you cum guzzling dipshit, then leftards & lolbertarians wouldn't always say "define woke" and such to (probably pretend, tbh) that it's not true, and that not only is stuff not actually woke but we don't even know what word we're using, implying it's a mindless, undefinable buzzword.

"You either stand with us or you stand with the terrorists libtards."
-George Bush
-SSJ_Ness (YIFFED)

They have weapons of mass Wokeism!

 

[Americunt]

If it was so obvious, you cum guzzling dipshit, then leftards & lolbertarians wouldn't always say "define woke" and such to (probably pretend, tbh) that it's not true, and that not only is stuff not actually woke but we don't even know what word we're using, implying it's a mindless, undefinable buzzword.

I don't even understand your point here. It's obvious to you isn't it? Were you really so blind and mislead in this world that you needed Gamergate to show you the light?

Can you list one tangible accomplishment Gamergate as a movement can claim
other than redpilling people on the obviously dire state of the game's industry? And have any of those people done anything to improve said sorry state, or has it got increasingly worse? Because from my perspective pretty much nothing has changed as far as the industry's attitudes towards scummy business practices (MTX, Pre-Orders, Live Service, Day 1 patches etc.) Or any of the left wing cultural signaling in major Triple A releases since this "movement" started 10 years ago, so I'm curious what value such a seemingly ineffective consumer movement has produced other than keeping the Adsense accounts of anti-woke grifters on youtube full with cash.

 

[Tablet County]

I agree, even someone like me didn't follow it so it was a blip on the radar, I still barely even understand the origins of it (slut fucked a game urinalist for positive coverage of her shitty game?) or what its goals were (hold journalists to a higher standard of ethics?).

For the record, the actual part of GG which got it compared to Watergate in the first place was that it was revealed that all of these different games journo websites were colluding to releasing articles that all forwarded the same opinions in order to manufacture a great consensus. From what I've heard, it was revealed that there was some kind of forum or chatroom where they all collaborated. Zoe Quinn, the Five Guys, and the release of the Gamers Are Dead articles was merely how the case got blown open.
Unfortunately, all that anyone seems to remember is Zoe's shitty cyoa game and the Burgers and Fries she had.

As for the actual subject of the thread, I think GG had a direct influence on politics in the sense that the people who engaged in GG would go on to become politicos in current year, applying the same techniques and ideas they did back when. Basically GamerGate is the reason the world is retarded now.

 

[Guns of the Gaytriots]

I'd say the distrust in journalists and mainstream media created by GG caused more people to seek alternative sources of information (i.e. YouTubers), threatening a lot of small legacy media journalism sites. This of course would have probably happened eventually anyways but imo GG sped it up.

I'd say it also gave rise to IBS, since that's where a lot of the big players got their start. The "Internet call-in stream" format was popularized with things like the Killstream, setting the stage for SFTP with TommyC (and one of his cohosts, Nicholas DeOrio). Sargon and Thunderf00t spearheaded the skeptic community, along with a bunch of YouTube atheists like TJ Kirk. Keemstar also rode this wave, and Drama Alert paved the way for drama content on YouTube, giving rise to the commentary community. Whether these count as accomplishments or not is debatable, but it definitely had an effect on the Internet landscape today.

 

[Americunt]

The "Internet call-in stream" format was popularized with things like the Killstream, setting the stage for SFTP with TommyC (and one of his cohosts, Nicholas DeOrio). Sargon and Thunderf00t spearheaded the skeptic community, along with a bunch of YouTube atheists like TJ Kirk. Keemstar also rode this wave, and Drama Alert paved the way for drama content on YouTube, giving rise to the commentary community.

I'm supposed to take this as a net-positive for the world? And not only recognize the popularization of this format, but consecrate these useless faggots that benefited from it? Are we actually being for real right now that Gamergate was a good thing because it created niggers like DaOreo? Because I'd gladly go back in timw and make ethics in gaming journalism WORSE if it meant I'd never have to hear about Nick DeOrio or any of his faggot friends ever again if what you're saying is true.

 

[Guns of the Gaytriots]

I'm supposed to take this as a net-positive for the world?

Whether these count as accomplishments or not is debatable,