Let's Sperg Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter

[30+GameOvers]

I am still working on my Marathon art style post, but I wanted to say something briefly about Mirror's Edge artstyle since it is one of my favorite games of all time.

There is something to be said for the colors they used, mostly white and red, and how they're actually used in the environment and to guide the player. Maratroon just looks like someone ate a crayon box and had a diarrhea, spilling random colors everywhere out of their ass with no rhyme or reason. Unless we're talking about yellow paint guiding literal retards, which the modern AAA gamer is, colors guiding the player without any overblown tutorials or UI elements pointing the way for the player is a lost art. Also, despite these two colors being used for most of the game, how they're used was also done well and doesn't really get grating(then again, Mirror's Edge is on the shorter side). Meanwhile, calling maratranny an incomplete game with placeholder textures/models is a rather common complaint I am hearing about, nobody is even sure if this is how the devs intended the game to look or not lmfao

 

[BoomerSperg1922]

I mean I have no skin invested in this game because I do not care about extractor shooters. I do not like them, I do not play them, and the one or two I did play (Marauders, Tarkov) I did not find very fun for very long.

But what does upset me is that I played Marathon 1, Durandal, and Infinity. This isn't Marathon. I get that troons are now wearing bungie like a skinsuit and that everyone who made their old games that were actually good is long gone, but I still don't see WHY they're calling this Marathon.

It has nothing to do with the original games, and anyone who actually played them back in the day like myself will just be mad and/or disgusted. So you are basically using a brand name no one but a few thousand old people care about in a way that will generate nothing but negative press from those old people who DO remember the brand.

What's the point?

 

[Tablet County]

What's the point?

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

What's the point?

it's like a skinwalker, but it just makes everything suck. a shitwalker...

 

[Spaced Outside Cargo]

What's the point?

Because the business people who run it have an enterprise OpenAI account that they asked “generate a list of multiplayer games based on current popular trends, it should fit in with the theme of games made by Bungie” and it told them:
1. Halo Battle Royale
2. Destiny 2 sequel
3. Marathon Extraction Shooter

 

[Frightened Rabbit]

I remember someone told me the nu-Marathon would have something like 10+ AI characters, one or two for each faction plus one of the old AIs coming back, I don't know if this is true but it does work into my idea that the troons in Bungie are self-inserting as AIs and not as the playable characters. Even for a troon, transhumanist shell bodies might be a bit too far from them, however I believe they'll equate the process an AI goes while going mad to what they go through when they discover themselves. Something about the AI going thru a manic episode, discovering their potential and the constraints placed on them, ending in a phase where the AI breaks free from the constraits, and also all the larvae imagery and cocoons, it's prime for a Troon to self-insert.
All I'm saying is, it might not be too far from the future where we see a "Durandal is just like me" post.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I remember someone told me the nu-Marathon would have something like 10+ AI characters, one or two for each faction plus one of the old AIs coming back, I don't know if this is true but it does work into my idea that the troons in Bungie are self-inserting as AIs and not as the playable characters. Even for a troon, transhumanist shell bodies might be a bit too far from them, however I believe they'll equate the process an AI goes while going mad to what they go through when they discover themselves. Something about the AI going thru a manic episode, discovering their potential and the constraints placed on them, ending in a phase where the AI breaks free from the constraits, and also all the larvae imagery and cocoons, it's prime for a Troon to self-insert.
All I'm saying is, it might not be too far from the future where we see a "Durandal is just like me" post.

If there is going to be characters there, it will be capeshit avengers stuff or some ripoff anime characters from a show they watched. You're giving these troons too much credit, did you forget the self insert from that disastrous Destiny 2 dlc?

 

[Oliver Onions]

I know this is the generally accepted answer for these hack job cash-ins, but at what point do they look at the (lack of) ROI and realise this plan of exploiting old IPs by sticking the name on games that have nothing to do with their legacy doesn't work?

Even Disney finally seem to be running aground with their shitty live-action remakes --although that's in part thanks to actors who can't keep their mouths shut-- so surely even the dumbest corporate bean counters must see the math isn't mathing on this stupid get rich quick scheme.

 

[Tablet County]

Even Disney finally seem to be running aground with their shitty live-action remakes --although that's in part thanks to actors who can't keep their mouths shut-- so surely even the dumbest corporate bean counters must see the math isn't mathing on this stupid get rich quick scheme.

Well if the obvious answer to "why" is money, then the obvious answer to "why still" is sunk-cost fallacy. That or delusion mixed with pigheadedness.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

There is a hell of a lot of Designers Republic influence in there. When I first saw Marathon I thought they might have been involved.

I really think they're trying to achieve that "playstation cool" look of Wipeout in the mid 90's.

 

[NSJAP]

The ability to go invisible with shotguns in an extraction shooter where death makes you lose everything is a great game design philosophy.

 

[TerranTony98]

Can't believe I look away from this thread for 2 days and you guys glaze Tron Uprising without me! Also I think for Bungies artistic inspirations they should of picked two out of their list and honed in on it. Something that's just trying to be 'designers republic/Ghost in the shell' will be more focused than the cocktail mix they have right now.

 

[PB & Banana Sandwich]

The ability to go invisible with shotguns in an extraction shooter where death makes you lose everything is a great game design philosophy.

Perfect invisibility while sprinting too.

 

[30+GameOvers]

The ability to go invisible with shotguns in an extraction shooter where death makes you lose everything is a great game design philosophy.

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kek, did they really just import Starfield's abomination of a double barrel shotgun?

And it looks even more like a toy gun, too. Everything looks fucking ugly in this game, not really helping my "roblox infinite warfare" accusation. In fact, the outdoors area looks almost exactly like a map from Advanced Warfare, another futuristic cod game, and you wouldn't be judged too harshly to think you're playing a jetpack COD game with really low quality settings here.
There is something to be said here for making games look visually appealing. If they want their shitty pastel colored lego artstyle, they can have it but they need to put EFFORT into making it look GOOD. This is low quality and I refuse to believe it's for any other reason other than incompetence/lack of talent.

I really think they're trying to achieve that "playstation cool" look of Wipeout in the mid 90's.

Please, as if anyone in that studio even played these games. Even Mirror's Edge is a more likely inspiration.

 

[Warai Otoko]

This is low quality

I'm not going to defend Bungie here, it looks dogshit ,this clearly was meant to be under NDA.
According to the devs, apparently it was meant to be a stresstest for the servers and fine tune some balance changes and
said multiple times that this isn't the final look because the textures are placeholders.
The game literally is 6 gigs in storage.
The artstyle isn't even the worst part of the game, it isn't fun to play either.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I'm not going to defend Bungie here, it looks dogshit ,this clearly was meant to be under NDA.
According to the devs, apparently it was meant to be a stresstest for the servers and fine tune some balance changes and
said multiple times that this isn't the final look because the textures are placeholders.
The game literally is 6 gigs in storage.
The artstyle isn't even the worst part of the game, it isn't fun to play either.

I very much doubt they will improve anything or make the game look better. This is shipping as is, maybe replacing some of the placeholder textures at best. Time to stress test was months ago if they wanted things actually fixed. Their only other choice is to delay, and I doubt they can do that even if they wanted to.

 

[Warai Otoko]

Their only other choice is to delay

That's their best option, unless we are being very and assume that they have everything ready to ship.
The game needs serious work to succeed and even that may fail, their direct competitor ARC Raiders already
had far better support, even though it featured androgynys body type A/B bullshit.
I'm Suprised the shills haven't caught up to that, you'd think they'd make a video about it by now, as they did
with Marathon.

 

[Tablet County]

The ability to go invisible with shotguns in an extraction shooter where death makes you lose everything is a great game design philosophy.

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Everybody who has a code, you now know what you must do to further ruin this game.

 

[Warai Otoko]

Everybody who has a code, you now know what you must do to further ruin this game.

Can't do it now even if I wanted to, closed alpha is over, they shut down the servers.

 

[Frightened Rabbit]

The game literally is 6 gigs in storage.

That's literally the only thing that's good and even then, it's not because they bothered to optimize file size and compression, it's because they has very little textures, I assume they just assign solid colours directly.