Do Men Even Like Women?

I didn’t know who Stan was until null did the podcast last week.

Hey Stan if your still reading though here, why are you on the farms (I’ve asked Android and hhh too about why they’re here) and do you actually enjoy your time here?
My favorite part of the Stan saga was when @Trombonista told her alogs to stop shitting up her thread with off-topic sperging, but then said alogs posted DMs from @Null telling them to keep all their off-topic sperging in the @Stan thread. I like how the staff here are like texas rangers, only loosely coordinated. So libertarian.
 
@Stan I feel like the way that the question of this thread is worded is serviceable, but it’s actually pretty thought provoking to ask in what way.
Also, a lot of replies to this thread are “yes, but I don’t like [personality type/behavior]” which is odd, because nobody said that you had to like all women, nobody likes everyone.
Edit: of course the right answer to that question is “In every way/In a lot of ways” but it’s a nice starting point for introspection.
 
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Case in point.
The true horror of the Internet is it allows Margaret Pless here to continue talking (online at least) while still eating. Which she is no doubt doing right now. Because she's fat. In the old days, stupid fat bitches like her at least had to be silent while shovelling food into their gaping maw.
The day you submit to her and the matriarchy with tears in your eyes will be so good. No more pesky decisions, no more violence, just bio-chemical changes used by the state to get your debased violent gender back in pocket.
 
Do men even like women? Do men even like men? Do men even like people with brown hair?

I think the category is too broad. My first thought is imagining a stranger I don't know, and I don't generally like strangers. My second thought is friends and family, and I like some of them pretty well, but not everyone. My third thought is all the times gender came up in discussion, stuff like gendered hobbies (where I am unwelcome) and feminist events in college that told me how scary and oppressive I am as a male, and those people are disheartening to be around, so I don't like them much.
 
I'm straight so I do like women, but I like to joke I'm a competitive misogynist because many of my opinions don't align with current feminist ideals (abortion, accountability, gender roles, the patriarchy, etc). I didn't know there was a man-hate thread, but I'm unsurprised the gossip website with like 50% female userbase has one. I'm also unsurprised that a woman-hate thread was made in response either, it is a reflection of the current state of gender relations on the internet.

Two of my best friends are women. One is at the "we'd help each other bury a corpse, no questions asked" stage and the other got me a remote job in the US. But one is autistic, and the other has cPTSD, both are in their mid-30s and are genuinely good people, so I guess that has something to do with them being mature and not intolerable like many women out there. One can even banter like one of the boys, calling me retard or faggot or threatening to travel here and beat me up.

Personally, I feel like the question "do men even like women" is a little nonsensical considering the lengths Western men and their society go to please, charm, comfort, and protect women. I think that is the general issue here, women can't take the blows despite wanting equality in treatment with men. Not to say that they don't have to deal with bullshit, especially online. I was in a community where despite my best efforts as a moderator the women had to make their own space to not deal with creeps, men shitting on their female-centric content, or unsolicited dick pics.
 
Depends on the type of women and whether or not they are on the spectrum. I follow the humour to cringe ratio and sunken cost fallacy.
 
I like woman. I'm not sure why, I just do.

Some of them are sexy but not all

Some are cool to hang out with.

I think the only reason I like women is because my reptilian brain says that it is baby making time for WatchfulEye275.
 
Men of the Farms: can you prove Andrea wrong?
Yes and no.
The issue with that request/assumption is that men don't have such expectations, and ergo their life is easier/better. This is not quite the case. Yes men do not have nor are they expected to build their lives around being sexually desireable to women, that is true. That is because they must instead build their lives around being useful/successful and strong for everyone else. If you are not producing or winning as a man, you are a failure, and will be looked down upon. You may regard with contempt the way society looks down upon a woman for not being attractive, and in the same breath assent that society looking down on a man for being weak is just and correct. We all expectations about what we must do and for whom, trying to pick whose is worse, or trying to map yours onto others is at best unproductive.
You can't (or shouldn't I suppose) try to compare men and women directly because we are just different. Arguing over whether male disposablity or female fragility (or frailty if you prefer, I mean in the physical context) is a fools errand.
Because much of the time I notice users here who are just profligately angry at women in general and female users on this forum in particular
This is for a lot of reasons, but I think primarily it boils down to that being the nature of the internet space and culture as it stands right now. If you get off the internet things dont seem quite as bad. I still have yet to meet a girl with an onlyfans, nor a girl who even knows what the words "moid" or "scrote" mean either. Most men I've spoken to either have no idea who Andrew Tate is, or if they do know who he is, do not speak or think highly of him whatsoever Much of the vitriol is an internet phenomenon.
Do you even like women? If so, why?
Yes of course.
For one, they're very pretty, which I suppose should be obvious, but I want it reiterated. In fact furthermore, I find women are often  far more harsh about their appearance than they should be or need to be. Tall or short, well endowed or lack thereof, clear skin or not, most women are very attractive to most men. I wouldn't call Caroline Ellison the most attractive of women, and yet she had an entire BDSM sex ring around her. Unless you're fat (actually fat, not 10 lbs overweight), or horribly disfigured (as in house fire victim, not a minor scar or cleft lip surgery scar), you are fine and pretty as is by and large.
Their desire/ability to be caring and loving, and the energy they put in to show it is inspiring and heartning. My brother is dating a wonderful lady right now that he intends to marry, and the way she just cares for him and loves him is wonderful to see (and he is absolutely head over heels as you might imagine). Furthermore on this as well, I tend to have a self deprecating sense of humor (because believe it or not I possess imperfections like everyone else), and she actually took the time to send me a PM once and tell me that she doesn't like some of those jokes, not because she was personally offended, but because she didn't think they were true and that I was being mean to myself for making them. The fact that someone would see that, think about it, and care, was a whitepill (pardon the internet lingo if you would) moment.
Their desire to make others feel appreciated and pleased is also wonderful. I currently go help out on a farm once a week just as a hobby of mine. I get there around mid morning, and every morning, without fail, the farmers wife will offer my breakfast and a glass of milk. I of course decline, as I eat before I go there (I wake up early and eat early cause I get fairly hungry), and whenever I come in after working for a while she offers the same but fruit instead of breakfast. Her hospitality, and the things she offers to try and accommodate me are wonderful.

Ultimately womens biggest flaw and failing is that they are indeed human like the rest of us, no better and no worse. The greatest failing of any gender wars discourse is rejecting that premise.
 
older people dont have as much animosity for the opposite sex and get along better
 
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Some guy at my work said to me he had a hard time looking at his girlfriend when she is naked and he only wants to do woohoo’s when the light is turned off.
 
We do.
That's why men built society, because they wanted their women to be able to live and raise the children in peace and prosperity.
If men truly hated women, the world would adopt some form of Sharia Law because that's very beneficial to men at the cost of women.
If all men started punching women in the face, what could women do?
Nothing, but we don't because we like women, sometimes more than ourselves, often to our own detriment.
 
normal women are pretty alright but feminist types are annoying. it's literally just the female inverse version of being an incel but it's socially acceptable and trendy because it subverts the norm. women have all the rights in the world and then some at this point so i don't even understand why there is a need for it other than using it as an avenue to lash out at men in general because you're still emotionally attached to some shitty ex
 
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