Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Bâtard Consanguine]

Good. Disney would have mangled it worse than an infant in a thresher.

I don't even want to imagine how they'd ruin HK47.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

People come to their beliefs based on their life expereinces then use that lense to percieve the media they consum. Not the other way around. This is a fact that makes leftist writers constipated with rage to a degree that could power cities if we could harness the energy.

It doesn't help that nowadays in attempts to not offend or strike up controversy "heroes" are often made neutral and boring to the point where they come across as either totally empty people or morally bankrupt trend chasers. Modern villains by contrast tend not only to have actual beliefs and personalities but also to possess real agency to effect the story and the world around them.

Given the choice between the two I'm going to probably be a bigger fan of the guy who acts like he has a pair.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Andor isn't even really getting a lot of traction. The viewership seems to be similar to The Acolyte which got cancelled. And you don't see anyone talking about it outside the fandom bubble. It's just a loud minority who is watching it. These shows are so expensive that to truly be successful they would need to be The Boys or Game of Thrones level mainstream popular. Only The Mandalorian achieved that and that was largely thanks to Baby Yoda going viral. That makes three shows in row with bad viewership (The Acolyte, Skeleton Crew and Andor). In one decade Disney has managed to make Star Wars basically irrelevant in pop culture.

It's mostly the political science geeks and the liberals who are very into Andor. The Mandalorian and Kenobi got the memberberry people out to watch it, whereas Andor gets the poli-sci nerds and the ANTIFA people wet. No lightsabers, no large-scale battles, the most you get are riots that the Empire puts down with force, although I suppose if you are somewhat of an Empire fan, or if you fucking hate rioters, you'd slightly enjoy seeing them gunning down rebels.

Especially when they walk into the killbox not once, but twice.

The lack of Star Wars games is so annoying and there's zero reason for it. At least if there were more games some of them might be good and maybe even build a foundation for more stories. It's obvious Lucasfilm themselves can't do it, so the best thing they could do is let other people work with the IP. But instead when we do get a game its shit like Outlaws, which was obviously creatively strangled to death by "the vision" that Lucasfilm and Kathleen Kennedy impose on the franchise.

Back in the day, they innovated to create new Star Wars games. Nowadays, they just steal trends. Put SW in Fortnite, make a SW version of Dark Souls, shit like that.

I miss the days when Star Wars was its own genre of video game back in the early 2000s.

I was looking forward to the KOTOR remake but looks like that died on the vine

Given how even the Oblivion remake didn't pass through the radar without being censored, I'd rather keep KOTOR pristine and untouched by remakes.

It doesn't help that nowadays in attempts to not offend or strike up controversy "heroes" are often made neutral and boring to the point where they come across as either totally empty people or morally bankrupt trend chasers. Modern villains by contrast tend not only to have actual beliefs and personalities but also to possess real agency to effect the story and the world around them.

Given the choice between the two I'm going to probably be a bigger fan of the guy who acts like he has a pair.

Exactly. Villains have motives, a plan, and typically have enough power to carry through with it. That, and what people see as "good" changes over time. Like I said, back then we'd automatically side with the "democracy" side because we saw it as an automatic good, but years of seeing democratic governments get keked by rich assholes while the common man starves and can't buy a home, and people start sympathizing with the dude who has the cojones to stand up to that bullshit, a dude who usually is strong enough to kick ass and take names.

Speaking of Andor, which was a prequel to Rogue One, the latter's real attraction isn't the gritty rebels, but Darth Vader making Swiss cheese out of a Rebel platoon and making jokes in front of Krennic, as well as devastating a victorious rebel fleet.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Honestly, Skeleton Crew is the best live action Star Wars show

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Honestly, Skeleton Crew is the best live action Star Wars show

And it's not even good.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

And it's not even good.

It at least felt like Star Wars

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

It at least felt like Star Wars

Not really. More like a children's movie from the mid eighties or early nineties, Goonies in space.

Comparatively Star Wars feels a lot more like an adventure serial form the thirties or fifties, which makes sense since that's what the movies are mostly based on.

 

[Ghostse]

Speaking of Andor, which was a prequel to Rogue One, the latter's real attraction isn't the gritty rebels, but Darth Vader making Swiss cheese out of a Rebel platoon and making jokes in front of Krennic, as well as devastating a victorious rebel fleet.

Ground war was pretty kino too. It was just nice to see a decent space battle in "Star Wars" which we haven't had a proper one since RotJ.

Andor sucks because it is slow and doesn't matter: We know most of the principals live till Rogue One so that really takes away a lot of the tension of a intrigue-thriller.
Nothing in it mattered before, and it will never matter again except as memberberries and key parts are soon to be overwritten or retconned because not enough shitskins and no one visibly troons out on screen.
Nothing Andor does matters because he dies.
And in a larger scheme all this scheming and suffering is gay and pointless because Rey is all Jedi.

But it gets the abused wives publicly wanking to it because its "dark and gritty" and the first thing that's been put out in over a decade that isn't complete shit.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Ground war was pretty kino too. It was just nice to see a decent space battle in "Star Wars" which we haven't had a proper one since RotJ.

Rogue One wasn't good and people who think it was should feel bad about themselves. With that said the space battle and ground battle at the end were really good.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Remember JJ Abrams? He musti've fallen off the face of the earth.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Ground war was pretty kino too. It was just nice to see a decent space battle in "Star Wars" which we haven't had a proper one since RotJ.

The TPM and ROTS space battles were good, too. Although it's funny that two ISDs on Scarif couldn't defeat the Rebel fleet, but Vader's single ISD crushes them. Maybe they were running low on energy after fighting the other two ISDs?

Andor sucks because it is slow and doesn't matter: We know most of the principals live till Rogue One so that really takes away a lot of the tension of a intrigue-thriller.
Nothing in it mattered before, and it will never matter again except as memberberries and key parts are soon to be overwritten or retconned because not enough shitskins and no one visibly troons out on screen.
Nothing Andor does matters because he dies.

It's basically a sandbox for them to explore life under the Empire from an ANTIFA point of view. Which works as a way to show the inner workings of the Empire, although the distinct lack of Sith influence or elite Imperial element kind of subtracts from the experience.

Would it have killed them to have a Royal Guard or an Emperor's Hand pursue Mon Mothma during episode 9? They already proved that they can do horror in Episode 8 with the KX droids; having a Royal Guard or a Dark Jedi shrugging off attacks that would kill regular men would've added to the tension. Not to mention that it would have shown Andor as a smart guy if he took down a well-trained Royal Guardsman or Dark Jedi on Coruscant as the Empire pursued Mon Mothma. It was, after all, the Imperial homeworld, not some ass end outpost like Ferrix or Aldhani.

At least when Kyle Katarn raided the ISB HQ in Dark Forces, he fought at least 2-3 Dark Troopers AND Boba Fett. It showed that Coruscant isn't just mooks from top to bottom; there's elite soldiers here who can massacre an entire platoon on their own, with little effort.

But it gets the abused wives publicly wanking to it because its "dark and gritty" and the first thing that's been put out in over a decade that isn't complete shit.

That, and the rest of the sci-fi/fantasy landscape nowadays is more like a landfill. Andor might've been seen as average during the height of Star Wars in the 2000s, but today, it stands taller than the Empire State Building because of how shit everything else turned out to be.

It's basically Game of Thrones in Space, after the two GoT shows tanked and burned. At the very least, Andor is ending with Season 2, and they're having a graceful exit before they run out of ideas and shit the bed.

 

[GlupShitto]

Honestly, Skeleton Crew is the best live action Star Wars show

It's one of the worst. The egregious anti-whiteness (the fat elephant retard was supposed to represent white people), the hideous fucking niglet who can do no wrong, the disability chick with the dyke parents that goes against everything Lucas believed in, and the mudshark chick who's better than the nigger but still in love with him make for possibly the worst and most overtly woke cast but retards like you eat it up and say thank you I love trannies and niggers please give me some more. That's why Star Wars can never be good again and why we'll always be haunted by niggers.

 

[GlupShitto]

In retrospect, Star Wars died the moment Finn took off his helmet. It was when Star Wars stopped being about fun and became about subversive racial politics. I know people who were pissed about it when the trailer dropped got made fun of, but they turned out to be the most vindicated people in history.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

In retrospect, Star Wars died the moment Finn took off his helmet. It was when Star Wars stopped being about fun and became about subversive racial politics. I know people who were pissed about it when the trailer dropped got made fun of, but they turned out to be the most vindicated people in history.

Not really. I mean, they could've explained it by saying that they had a new clone template and the old Jango Fett DNA rotted away. That, or just have it so that Finn was just some recruit from some hillbilly, backwards-ass world, and joining the First Order was one way to get the fuck off that planet and get a life.

That, and a black Jedi Master gave Palpatine the ass-whooping of his life. Any doubts he had about carrying out Order 66 vaporized after Mace kicked his ass; if any Jedi had that same power, they could dethrone him before he even crowns himself. Hence why, in his mind, they all had to die.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

It's one of the worst. The egregious anti-whiteness (the fat elephant retard was supposed to represent white people), the hideous fucking niglet who can do no wrong, the disability chick with the dyke parents that goes against everything Lucas believed in, and the mudshark chick who's better than the nigger but still in love with him make for possibly the worst and most overtly woke cast but retards like you eat it up and say thank you I love trannies and niggers please give me some more. That's why Star Wars can never be good again and why we'll always be haunted by niggers.

I agree with that guy actually. Skeleton Crew is, indeed, the best live action Star Wars property since the Disney acquisition. With that said it is NOT a good show but it's at least minimally competent and watchable even if it is just a regurgitation of every Amblin Entertainment film ever made and it does NOT feel like Star Wars since it is clearly based on a formula that became popular in children's movies that came out a decade after Star Wars.

Not really. I mean, they could've explained it by saying that they had a new clone template and the old Jango Fett DNA rotted away. That, or just have it so that Finn was just some recruit from some hillbilly, backwards-ass world, and joining the First Order was one way to get the fuck off that planet and get a life.

Now I'll admit that I haven't played the game in quite some time but didn't OG Battlefront 2 explain that in the campaign? Kimino rose up against the Empire or something and the cloning facilities were co-opted by the Empire but at a drastically lowered rate or maybe were destroyed outright? As a result of this they started training a larger Imperial army from garrisons that were essentially tithed from member systems. You're the resident lore sperg and would know better than myself.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The only Ghorman with more than two brain cells to rub was the old man who rightfully pointed out that the Empire opening up the plaza to allow the Ghormans to protest was a trap. It was practically a killbox for Imperial soldiers to let loose. Especially when the Ghormans have guns, and would obviously open fire when things go south, so the Empire would have an excuse and say "hey, they were shooting at us, they were the violent thugs".

Imagine you're in German-occupied France in 1943. The Germans, after brutally crushing resistance movements and torturing resistance fighters, open up a plaza in Paris to allow people who disagree with their policies to protest. Would any person with more than two brain cells trust those Nazi bastards to NOT harm the protesters? It's practically them luring you out to a trap so they can have an excuse to shoot you.

Now I'll admit that I haven't played the game in quite some time but didn't OG Battlefront 2 explain that in the campaign? Kimino rose up against the Empire or something and the cloning facilities were co-opted by the Empire but at a drastically lowered rate or maybe were destroyed outright? As a result of this they started training a larger Imperial army from garrisons that were essentially tithed from member systems. You're the resident lore sperg and would know better than myself.

They still had Jango clones being made. That very same level says that the 501st remained pure for a time, which means Jango clones were being made alongside clones from other templates and regular recruits.

"After the Kamino uprising, the Emperor decided that an army of genetically identical soldiers was too susceptible to corruption. Future troopers would be cloned from a variety of templates. Though the 501st itself remained pure, the rest of the Imperial Army gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys."

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

They still had Jango clones being made. That very same level says that the 501st remained pure for a time, which means Jango clones were being made alongside clones from other templates and regular recruits.

"After the Kamino uprising, the Emperor decided that an army of genetically identical soldiers was too susceptible to corruption. Future troopers would be cloned from a variety of templates. Though the 501st itself remained pure, the rest of the Imperial Army gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys."

Thank you. I haven't played that game in probably close to twenty years and I'm way too lazy to look it up.

 

[Ghostse]

Rogue One wasn't good and people who think it was should feel bad about themselves. With that said the space battle and ground battle at the end were really good.

The first 2/3s of the movie is garbage. There are too many characters they try to make us care about but it doesn't work because we don't - the force monk and his body guard should have been axed, chinese audiences be damned.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The first 2/3s of the movie is garbage. There are too many characters they try to make us care about but it doesn't work because we don't - the force monk and his body guard should have been axed, chinese audiences be damned.

Oh for sure, literally the only good parts of the movie were the two battle scenes. Everything else was miserable filler; the monk and Machete sucked, I didn't like the robot, the main two are retarded, I didn't give a fuck about the Empire shit, and the Vader hallway scene is terrible.

 

[Ghostse]

I didn't like the robot

Eh, I like K2SO even if he was underutilized and an obvious Poochie-but-successful.