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what's wrong with requiring ID to access porn websites again
Honest answer privacy and security the more often a person has to give out their personal details the more likely they are to have them stolen further as much as the internet is already a privacy nightmare giving the people who will be serving you porn your real name and address is a deeply uncomfortable idea. It is also very different showing your ID to a bored store clerk than sending it to be potentially filed in a database. It further ties what you do online to your real life and further normalizes the de-anonymization of the internet. There are real trade offs involved here.

A lot of VPNs offer DNS blocking categories, including porn. I'm pretty sure some ISPs even allow DNS blocking nowadays on their web portals if they control your router. There are free services and tools to do this as well, most people just don't know it's even a thing.

I strongly believe if more people, especially parents, knew about this, they would use it.
If the government really wanted this solved I genuinely believe all they really would have to do is have filtering be something your isp or cell phone provider asks if you would like to opt into the tools already exist and could be made better simply by requiring porn sites to identify themselves as such. there was a proposal floated in the nineties for example to have pornographic sites use the domain name .XXX
 
Did some of you people forget what it was like to be a teenager, or did you all just live really boring sheltered lives?

If you think an ID stopped teens from accessing these two specific things, then have I got some bad news for you.
I don't see your point. Kids get molested despite the laws in place, so... get rid of the laws because they don't stop all child rapes? You're a silly.

Just say "I want to use xHamster without giving them my ID." I wouldn't blame you.
Reminder that the bong internet shit started with promises that it was just about keeping kids from accessing porn and now bongkiwis can't even get on the site without a VPN.
Bongs never had a First Amendment, so it's apples to oranges. The First Amendment doesn't protect obscenity and it never has. These morons are just angry they won't be able to jerk off anymore without the state making sure they aren't underage.
 
thats like, work and stuff.
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yeah nigga you need to literally be over your kids shoulder 24/7 or you're a bad parent
Honest answer privacy and security the more often a person has to give out their personal details the more likely they are to have them stolen further as much as the internet is already a privacy nightmare giving the people who will be serving you porn your real name and address is a deeply uncomfortable idea. It is also very different showing your ID to a bored store clerk than sending it to be potentially filed in a database. It further ties what you do online to your real life and further normalizes the de-anonymization of the internet. There are real trade offs involved here.
oh well you don't really need to watch porn anyway wake me when you have to do it for twitter or whatever then maybe there's a problem
 
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seems a lot harder and more invasive than just asking for ID
The problem is, they aren't just "asking for your ID" like a bouncer, they're storing your ID. They will then associate everything on your account with you personally and when that data is leaked, the company may have to pay a fine but so what, the damage is going to go well beyond that. As nice as it is to say "Well they shouldn't be looking at that stuff," that boils down to the same argument of "nothing to hide, nothing to fear." Which doesn't hold up.
 
I'm intrigued by the Sunday talks and stances of US/IR coming into them

Iran: wants to have a nuclear program for "civilian purposes"


After Witkoff's comments over the weekend that the US will not allow uranium enrichment on Iranian soil, Iranian FM Araqchi said this evening that, "If the goal of the negotiations is to deprive Iran of its nuclear rights or to make other unreasonable demands, Iran will under no circumstances give up. Iran insists on its right to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, including uranium enrichment."

US: Will allow this but requires full denuclearization, oversight, and enrichment not on IR soil

Trump administration envoy Steve Witkoff, in a significant statement ahead of the round of nuclear talks with Iran on Sunday, said, “We must dismantle the three uranium enrichment facilities in Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan. The uranium enrichment program in Iran can no longer exist. They can't have centrifuges. That's our red line - no enrichment! We will not accept a bad deal with Iran. We will withdraw if we feel the agreement is not strong. If we think the talks on Sunday will not be productive, we will choose a different path.
 
The problem is, they aren't just "asking for your ID" like a bouncer, they're storing your ID. They will then associate everything on your account with you personally and when that data is leaked, the company may have to pay a fine but so what, the damage is going to go well beyond that. As nice as it is to say "Well they shouldn't be looking at that stuff," that boils down to the same argument of "nothing to hide, nothing to fear." Which doesn't hold up.
again you can avoid this by not watching porn this is like getting mad at someone looking at your ID to buy cigarettes when nobody is making you buy cigarettes
 
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I am amused to no end watching people on a website dedicated to free, open, and unrestricted speech, art and criticism, which has a storied history of being persecuted by both government and private entities, and a vast distaste for government regulation, advocate vehemently for the government to start figuring out how to craft and implement the machinery to segregate the internet into silos and setup checkpoints where you have to show your papers to move around.
 
I am amused to no end watching people on a website dedicated to free, open, and unrestricted speech, art and criticism, which has a storied history of being persecuted by both government and private entities, and a vast distaste for government regulation, advocate vehemently for the government to start figuring out how to craft and implement the machinery to segregate the internet and setup checkpoints where you have to show your papers.
Not really surprised. It's also full of people who scream about "the slippery slope of gay marriage lead to your kids trooning out" but scream about how the slippery slope is a fallacy when it comes to the government stripping away your rights.
yeah i do actually
If you think that, than you're a retard.
 
Bongs never had a First Amendment, so it's apples to oranges. The First Amendment doesn't protect obscenity and it never has. These morons are just angry they won't be able to jerk off anymore without the state making sure they aren't underage.
The first amendment either protects all free speech or it really protects no free speech, it's that simple. "But nuh uh you can't threaten people!" You should be able to and the person you threaten should be within their rights to respond with equal or greater force in turn based on perceived danger.

But this isn't about what the bongs have vs what we have, it's about having enough brain cells to realize we aren't fighting something that will forever remain divided by borders. The globalist goal is a one world empire where they exert control. They have already tightened their grip on Europe, canada and Australia, and those people have themselves getting thrown into fucking prison and had the internet weaponized against them for wrongthink and wrongspeech. It's not just a "uwu bongs never had our super special constitution!" issue, it's a "the powers that be are inching toward their global new world order and this is one more thing they will have at their disposal for it."

Stop ceding freedoms based on your retarded coom based principles. Unless you're willing to literally go to war and shoot and kill and die over *checks notes* gooners getting on porn, stop advocating for shit that will just give the globalist faggots more power over all of us.
 
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Nope don't see a single line like "except for when sex or nudity is being discussed or depicted". The argument in support of obscenity laws being constitutional is solely that the founding fathers never would have classified obscenity as speech. Frankly I don't believe judges can talk to the dead and the founding fathers disagreed about a lot of things. Frankly I doubt Franklin or Jefferson would have agreed they were both perverts.
 
If you think that, than you're a retard.
there are a lot of reasonable regulations that have stopped where they should have stopped so i don't see why it wouldn't be the case here. if anything i think platforms requiring ID would be less of a legal thing and more of a thing they just do because they can get away with it
 
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