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Should be a wild four years.

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Michael Wade said:
If Trump is serious about cutting off Israel... That's a pretty big deal. Trump is very pro Jew and has been for most of his life. I mean when I watch the apprentice, he's letting em back out of tasks to observe holiday's and getting offended at perceived racism.

The disrespect he received would have to be monumental. He's going to have a lot of problems going forward, but id be lying if I said I wasn't a bit glad. America is beholden to no one.
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Whatever happened, I can only imagine someone either taking a threatening tone or losing their temper, and reminding Trump he's still just a goy.
 
browserbowser said:
It's astounding how you people never want to talk about alternatives that have an equal opportunity to have an effect but don't involve making it easier than ever for the government to directly connect you to your online activities in a manner akin to how the CCP operates. You skip straight to blowing holes in your own feet.
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Nigga, I've already given my take on what to do
Delany's Donkey said:
The only reason porn is allowed in the first place is because it's being wrongly interpreted as "speech" when nobody on earth sees a video of a girl sucking a cock as anything other than what it is, a video designed to illicit sexual arousal in the viewer which is the definition of obscenity.

even if you're gonna go by the standard of the fucking retard on the supreme court who came up with his retarded "I know it when I see it" standard and later the miller test, none of this stuff should be legal:
  1. Would the average person today think the work mainly tries to stir up sexual desire?
  2. Does the work show or describe sexual or bodily functions in an offensive way, according to state law?
  3. Does the whole work have no serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value?
all of this describes internet porn to a T.
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The Ugly One said:
I have to show photo ID to buy a beer, a car, a house, and to vote. How is this fundamentally different? Plus, "you go to prison if you obtain this" is a lot more draconian than "you need photo ID to obtain this."
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Do you have to show your ID to drink beer in your own home?
How about to go get some shit out of your car from your driveway?
To get into your house?

No? Right, because you're in the privacy of your own home, presumably?
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Racial slurs and spicy political takes are covered by the First Amendment and always has been. Obscenity isn't and never has been.
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... are you serious with this shit?
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Why not save us all a lot of time and admit you like lolicon?
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You people actually do have brain worms holy shit.
The Ugly One said:
every spergout over restricting gooner material
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If there was a way to do it that didn't by necessity lead to a legal precedent being set wherein the government could begin demanding that you require showing ID to access websites in general I would be for it. As it stands, that's an impossibility.

Yet no matter how often nor clearly the logic of it is explained to you people, this Patriot Act tier 'so you love the terrorists, huh?' shit is your argument.

No, not wanting to make it even easier for the government to violate my basic constitutional rights without due process is not grounded in anything to do with pornography. Especially given that this isn't going to deter coomers as the entire point is to *check for ID* not *get rid of online porn*.
 
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The Ugly One said:
If I had a nickel for every spergout over restricting gooner material that ended with a red strikethrough of shame, I'd become a True & Honest Fan.
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I'll make a deal with you: if this retard gets a red strikethrough, I'll gift you T&H. You deserve it anyhow.
browserbowser said:
You people actually do have brain worms holy shit.
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Let's try this another way: are you now or have you ever been a consumer of lolicon?
 
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browserbowser said:
How about to go get some shit out of your car from your driveway?
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BUT MUH DRIVEWAY GOONSESSIONS

bro if you are goonin in the driveway I'm going to start to think we need the gooners licensed...

...so we can eventually round them up and send them to the camps.

Disclaimer: this is just a shitpost, not authentic A&N petulance and autism. you air legitimate concerns, even if you come close to acting like a coomer ballwasher a few times and use shitty metaphors.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Let's try this another way: are you now or have you ever been a consumer of lolicon?
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No you fucking retard. But keep accusing people who do not want to give a foot in the door for the government to demand ID for websites hosting 'harmful content' of being coomers or pedophiles, it makes you look sane, reasonable, and not at all like a reskin of the 'well if you have nothing to hide, what are you afraid of the Patriot Act for?' retards from the early oughts.

Understand that when I say this:
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Which will be the foot in the door to require it for Internet access in general to 'protect the children'.
Which will absolutely include the forum you love to say racial slurs and post your spicy political takes on, you stupid fuck.
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it's with the full understanding that the next thing immediately after that is to start using this foot in the door to crack down on perceived threats to 'unity' such as dissenting opinions, especially of the 'antisemitic' variety. There has been enough popular chatter about how people 'abuse anonymity online to spread hate' from both 'sides of the aisle' for this to be a realistic expectation of what will follow afterward.

Though none of this is going to be anything but lost on you fucking retards because, like leftists who want equally nonsensical policy put into place at the detriment of everyone against all logic, you will ignore any and all things said in favor of hurling accusatory language and proffering asinine non-arguments/emotional appeals to get what you want because your position is not based in anything resembling reason.
 
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browserbowser said:
No you fucking retard. But keep accusing people who do not want to give a foot in the door for the government to demand ID for websites hosting 'harmful content' of being coomers or pedophiles, it makes you look sane, reasonable, and not at all like a reskin of the 'well if you have nothing to hide, what are you afraid of the Patriot Act for?' retards from the early oughts.

Understand that when I say this:

it's with the full understanding that the next thing immediately after that is to start using this foot in the door to crack down on perceived threats to 'unity' such as dissenting opinions, especially of the 'antisemitic' variety. There has been enough popular chatter about how people 'abuse anonymity online to spread hate' from both 'sides of the aisle' for this to be a realistic expectation of what will follow afterward.

Though none of this is going to be anything but lost on you fucking retards because, like leftists who want equally nonsensical policy put into place at the detriment of everyone against all logic, you will ignore any and all things said in favor of hurling accusatory language and proffering asinine non-arguments/emotional appeals to get what you want because your position is not based in anything resembling reason.
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And you're a fucking moron. Free speech is not the same as obscenity in case law. You either aggressively don't want to understand the legal difference because you're too prideful to admit you're a retard, or because you don't want to lose free and easy access to porn.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
The problem with the whole excuse of "regulating or banning anything leads to a slippery slope of problems" for not doing anything is that we are already on a very slippery slope of problems from certain things not being regulated or banned. Things are actively going wrong and it needs to be fixed and Libertarians complaining about "muh small government" don't offer any solutions, they just want to feed the problems the US has.
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People live in groups, so they have a baseline level to ensure the health of the group on a personal and societal level. Anything else is a cope.

I think I have a bias on this, as I was raised by people that weren't exactly ready to be parents. It ended up being a variety of people in my community that didn't have the "job" of raising me but helped me during the worst parts of my childhood. I find the manchild boomer "fuck you got mine" mentality of people like Day of the Cope disgusting because of this. They don't actually want to answer the awkward question of "what if the parent is unfit to parent" and let groomers and psychopaths take the empty slot, which then causes society to rot as a consequence. They enjoy Adult Neverland too much to even think about it.
 
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marvlouslie said:
Anyone advocating for Real ID online is fucking retarded. Remember, kids. The thing you advocate for can (and most likely will) be used against you.

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If making porn a little harder to access is the downfall of American liberty, I will eat my left shoe.
Storytime said:
what's wrong with requiring ID to access porn websites again
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It makes it harder for children to access porn.
 
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marvlouslie said:
Anyone advocating for Real ID online is fucking retarded. Remember, kids. The thing you advocate for can (and most likely will) be used against you.

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Not to mention any government system will be both more expensive and less effective than just solving the problem yourself. It takes all one ONE afternoon to look up how to do some network level blocking for pornography, there are entire guides, resources, open source softwares and step by step plans you can find and download to make it exceedingly hard for anyone on a network you control to get any sort of porn.

If the argument is people won't bother, won't try, or are too stupid for it, I'm not buying it. Parenthood is an obligation, not a option, and I've seen retards who don't know the first thing about the internet set up entire IPTV DVR setups to steal every streaming service they can find, and do so over a weekend.

And the cold truth is that if you are such a shitheel parent that you'll let them live off in the goon cave for 14 hours a day, banning porn isn't going to fix or save that kid. Stop trying to shift responsibility for families onto government, it never goes well.
 
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whats wrong with what the pornhub ethicist suggested?

work with manufacturers to implement a flag on every computer to denote if it's owned by a minor or adult, set it by default to minor, any porn sites automatically deny traffic from minor linked computers. You have to manually unflag your computer as an adult computer by pressing a button
 
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whats wrong with what the pornhub ethicist suggested?

work with manufacturers to implement a flag on every computer to denote if it's owned by a minor or adult, set it by default to minor, any porn sites automatically deny traffic from minor linked computers. You have to manually unflag your computer as an adult computer by pressing a button
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seems a lot harder and more invasive than just asking for ID
 
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