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In my opinion the first place to start with the online porn issue is to outlaw making profit from porn. If you treat people making profit from making porn as pimps and prostitutes in the legal system I think it would do a lot in the long term as far as removing the glamorization of porn and being a whore for a living.

I'm not too opposed to requiring ID for porn sites because I'm just not convinced it will balloon out to the entirety of the internet. It seems like a huge leap in logic to me. Especially when we already have to use an ID to get alcohol or the likes and that's never been expanded to "You will need an ID to buy caffeine, man!"
We could tax the shit out of people making porn. Or making money off of it.
 
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We're not the UK, the US is designed for the people to keep their laws in check to ensure they adhere to the Constitution, and as it's been pointed out many times already, porn or obscenity isn't covered in the Constitution. In an unlikely scenario where a Democrat makes the career ending move of requiring an ID to be on the internet is when they lose all support and that decision would be reversed anyway. Democrats are already losing their support as it is anyway, I don't think they want to add requiring an ID to be on the internet to their pile of poison they are dying on their hill over. And Republicans know damn well they will have no support if they tried to require an ID to be on the internet.
lol I wonder what it's like to still have faith in the system
 
the US is designed for the people to keep their laws in check to ensure they adhere to the Constitution
nigga the us army literally sent armies to prosecute the mormon religion, put german and japanese americans in concentration camps during war, and passed the patriot act

this essentially doesnt exist lol
 
Think of the money Null could make running his own VPN service though
Their margins tend to be pretty thin so you need a lot of users. He could probably at least break even and he could make it so it sidesteps tor requirements if there are DNS issues in the future. I know a lot of people hate using the Tor browser.
 
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Well shit, looks like they're not going to miss this time, but the real question now is will the "palestine trans rights" crowd now be anti-palestinian because orange man?
This was kind of my thought too. I'm going to make a note (mostly for myself) to keep track of their tune regarding Israel if El Naranja's POSSIBLE distrust and actions against them causes a contrarian shift. It's a fascinating behavior to keep tabs on.

Hulkster's spirit stirs as Johnny tries on his wrasslin tights...
Johnny is about to get in it again, I'll be keeping my head down and enjoying the Thunderdoming while it happens. I do love a good weekend Thunderdome.

omg fatpacks hiiiii
 
Yes it is. See Miller v. California (1973). They've been shifty and vague about how they define "obscenity" in the intervening half-century (to the annoyance of many), but generally speaking they've held that pornography is in fact protected speech.
it isn't vague if you actually apply the standard. the only thing keeping porn sites open is lack of political will to enforce said standard.
 
nigga the us army literally sent armies to prosecute the mormon religion, put german and japanese americans in concentration camps during war, and passed the patriot act
I actually think the mormons and japs were completely justified. Krauts have more established historical American roots pre-dating the conflict so its gets stickier. Patriot act is a whole 'nother can of worms.
 
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it isn't vague if you actually apply the standard. the only thing keeping porn sites open is lack of political will to enforce said standard.
The basic guidelines for the trier of fact must be: (a) whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards"
Wow. Totally not easily manipulated.
 
Hulkster's spirit stirs as Johnny tries on his wrasslin tights...
It's so cute how you're such a simpleton that you blindly believe whatever Kiwi Farms gooners tell you.

That's why you keep getting grifted, little guy. Now go turn on Nick Fuentes and listen to him tell you how catboys are the perfect human specimen, Kanye West is the smartest person in the world and is doing such a good job and that you should feel honored to have your taxes raised so that Arabs can pay less. Maybe your sped ass will calm down a bit.
This is a HHH post that I modified as a joke.
 
I might be a little optimistic about the future I'll agree, I do understand some of the concerns about requiring an ID for anything, this is America afterall. But I don't think allowing children to have unlimited access to porn is the hill to die on. Our society is sick and having too much access to porn (not even normal porn, but really fucked up shit and lots of it) is one of the major problems our society has and it's an issue that needs to be tackled.

I'm not fully convinced that requiring an ID will fix that problem but I'm not convinced it will lead to ultimate doom either. We just need to outlaw people making money from making porn as priority 1
 
the only thing keeping porn sites open is lack of political will to enforce said standard.
Are you akshually implying that a heckin valid onlyfans whore's sexworker's taxmoney and vote is less heckin valid than anyone elses?

Wow, get a load of ole Adolf over here folx! Lets get him fired and debanked! And maybe even lynched! To protect Democracy!
 
nigga the us army literally sent armies to prosecute the mormon religion, put german and japanese americans in concentration camps during war, and passed the patriot act

this essentially doesnt exist lol
The Mormons started it. Fuck off. They were allowed to practice their religion, but instead they decided to attack settler convoys.

You have no idea what you are talking about. The Mormons massacred an entire settler convoy at Mountain Meadows.

The US Army wasn't sent in over religious differences. It was sent in because the retards in Salt Lake city decided they had the authority to kill American citizens. The US Army "deterred" the Mormon church of this notion. By force and extreme violence. And under the guns of the US Army, the Mormons became very accommodating. They didn't just stop attacking wagon trains they started to profess how patriotic they were. Amazing what swift and certain implementation of lethal force can accomplish. Even against religious cultists.
 
But I don't think allowing children to have unlimited access to porn is the hill to die on.
The hill isn't for porn access, it's for ID requirements to access websites. I think pretty much everyone in this thread agrees that something should be done about children accessing porn and there are disagreements over the right way to do that. One thing is clear, porn sites are abusing the inherent trust the internet was built on to prey on kids.
 
ok how would you stop kids accessing porn without their parents watching their literal every move 24/7
I don't know. But one thing it shouldnt involve is creating the framework for the flagship program to tie Americans personal identity to internet traffic even more effectively.
 
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