Celebrity Meghan Markle / Rachel Meghan Markle / Meghan, Duchess of Sussex / Meghan Sussex / The Alliterate One - Markle Snarkle

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

It’s pretty old and a little dated now — it came out in like 2009 I think — but Chris Rock’s documentary “Good Hair” is very interesting and informative about black people’s hair and the ungodly amounts of money (mostly) black women spend to mutilate theirs to keep it straight. It goes into the industry of their hair care products, weaves, etc. but there are also some really heartbreaking (to me) moments where it’s shown that even little black girls are led to believe they’re “supposed” to straighten their hair. It talks a lot about how these women think and feel about their hair. Seems pretty self-loathing and insidious. I can believe Meghan, even though she’s mixed, shared that loathing. The movie’s worth a watch if you have nothing better to do. A handful of celebs are featured and interviewed in it.

Yeah, Becky with the Good Hair is a thing. Somehow some types of women's hair became a whole referendum on their attractiveness and competence. The historical contributors to that are not hard to locate. But the bottom line is that whatever anyone does with their hair, it's their business. Having 1a or 3a or 4a-c hair isn't a good or bad thing. You just have to get real and deal with what you've got. Personally, I think natural 4a-c hair is gorgeous. And her mom wears protective styles and can look regal. But Meghan apparently doesn't feel her natural hair, or "Black" hairstyles, fit her aesthetic. And if she wants to straighten it (obviously yes; there's no question her hair isn't naturally straight/ how she wears it), fine for her. If it looked good (done however), great. But it doesn't. Meghan's problem is not that she straightens it or wears extensions; it's that she's sloppy and delusional.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I found it strange that so many white women didn’t know what black women go through with their hair. I don’t have dozens of black friends or anything, but just from people I went to school with posting on social media, I saw what black women go through just trying to care for their children’s hair (let alone their own). I’ve seen them post multi-hour weekly wash-and-style sessions that look downright painful with all the scalp-pulling and braiding, not to mention the expense.

Meghan’s hair looks like it would be beautiful if she wore it naturally. I think she’s saving that stunt for a little further down the line when it’s harder for her to get media attention.

 

[Yakka Hula]

If she’s saving going back to her natural hair to get press, add it to her long list of fails. She’s bound to have some scalp damage preventing the hair from growing to what it used to look like, which was honestly lovely. Then there’s the plain fact that while it might get attention, at this point, few will likely give a fuck, and even if it does get traction, it’ll be short-lived.

She should have done it early on when she was trying to present herself as the ‘first black to marry into the royal family’, and used it to her advantage. Not years later when the world is bored and weary of the endless “racism” cards being pulled.

I’m just hoping those kids didn’t inherit the hair, and she’s been straightening it to match hers. My black friends back in the 80s (when everyone had big but mostly straightened hair) told me enough horror stories of getting their scalps burned from the chemicals and hot irons that I quickly shut up about running low on Aqua Net.

 

[madethistocomment]

It’s pretty old and a little dated now — it came out in like 2009 I think — but Chris Rock’s documentary “Good Hair” is very interesting and informative about black people’s hair and the ungodly amounts of money (mostly) black women spend to mutilate theirs to keep it straight. It goes into the industry of their hair care products, weaves, etc. but there are also some really heartbreaking (to me) moments where it’s shown that even little black girls are led to believe they’re “supposed” to straighten their hair. It talks a lot about how these women think and feel about their hair. Seems pretty self-loathing and insidious. I can believe Meghan, even though she’s mixed, shared that loathing. The movie’s worth a watch if you have nothing better to do. A handful of celebs are featured and interviewed in it.

Being a young girl with curly hair in the 1990s and 2000s was fucking brutal. Stick-straight hair was all the rage and anything else was considered hideous. My best friend is a white girl with 3b hair and she's told me about how she hated the fact that growing up, the girls who looked exactly like her were always the "before" in makeovers in movies and tv shows. Thankfully her mom (3c hair) never let her anywhere near a straightener or treatments and taught her how to love her hair, but growing up and having your entire culture view your hair texture as ugly and undesirable does an absolute number on your self esteem.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I’m just hoping those kids didn’t inherit the hair, and she’s been straightening it to match hers.

It looks like Archie has very wavy but not exactly curly hair. Lili’s is even less wavy. My Jewish kids have curlier hair than hers do.

The Meghan a-logs are STILL freaking out over Archie’s birthday photo. But the Mother’s Day pic has them accusing H and M of growing cannabis on their balcony and not keeping the outdoor area tidy enough (because there were some leaves on the floor).

Someone asked a few pages back if Meghan’s Mole is still around. Yes, and you can find so much lunacy by checking out her X account and those of the people she amplifies. They just straight up make shit up and thousands of people run with it. I suspect the BRF aren’t exactly thrilled by the pedigree of many of their diehard fans.

 

[Constellationzero]

I found it strange that so many white women didn’t know what black women go through with their hair.

Because we do not care.

And blacks are objectively hideous anyway.

 

[FatalTater]

Being a young girl with curly hair in the 1990s and 2000s was fucking brutal. Stick-straight hair was all the rage and anything else was considered hideous. My best friend is a white girl with 3b hair and she's told me about how she hated the fact that growing up, the girls who looked exactly like her were always the "before" in makeovers in movies and tv shows. Thankfully her mom (3c hair) never let her anywhere near a straightener or treatments and taught her how to love her hair, but growing up and having your entire culture view your hair texture as ugly and undesirable does an absolute number on your self esteem.

I also have 3b hair and have lived through a few fashion cycles where only straight hair was allowed.

Spoiler: treatin' the farms like a livejournal

Being young and dealing with the same assholes that made fun of curly hair going out and getting perms yet still making fun of my curls? What?
Nevermind the one teacher I had that smugly insisted to my face that I had a perm, even though I had gone to that school since kindergarten and there was plenty of evidence and witnesses to prove otherwise. I had MANY problems with that creature, but the hair thing was just wtf.

I am more worried about Meghan's kids not living up to her idea of cute, and that being why they're kept hidden away. Here's hoping she doesn't get them any sneaky plastic surgery while on vacation in Mexico.

 

[squidward tentacles]

If, by perchance, the kids were born via surrogate, what does that actually mean wrt their legitimacy in the BRF? In the hypothetical situation that Megan explodes or something and Harry begs nicely enough to be welcomed back into the fold. They're still his and her kids, right? Would they be eligible for whatever they would hypothetically be eligible for, or does using a surrogate negate that?

 

[Adrenochrome Dreams]

Being a young girl with curly hair in the 1990s and 2000s was fucking brutal. Stick-straight hair was all the rage and anything else was considered hideous. My best friend is a white girl with 3b hair and she's told me about how she hated the fact that growing up, the girls who looked exactly like her were always the "before" in makeovers in movies and tv shows. Thankfully her mom (3c hair) never let her anywhere near a straightener or treatments and taught her how to love her hair, but growing up and having your entire culture view your hair texture as ugly and undesirable does an absolute number on your self esteem.

It absolutely was. Going out with unstraightened hair was treated akin to going out in your pyjamas or something. Girls with type 2 or 3 hair were made to feel hideous.

Obviously it is different for black girls but I can’t imagine they escaped, and probably had additional pressures on top.

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Meghan’s natural hair appears to be 3C (tight curls), thick and bushy. But it’s too late for her to go fully natural and it actually look good.

She’s probably becoming menopausal, and her hair has taken a quarter century of damage from straightening and extensions. Her roots appear light now so she’s also greying; her hair is definitely dyed.

Her real hair will be thinning from low oestrogen and the weight of decades of extensions stressing her follicles. It would take a long time to grow out, and would be in poor condition from continuous dyeing and treatments.

It was hard to make curly hair appear glamorous in the 00’s so I understand why she originally opted to straighten as a yacht girl. With straightening comes severe damage and breakage, then extensions are necessary to retain length, which damages the hair further. It’s a vicious cycle.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Her roots appear light now so she’s also greying; her hair is definitely dyed.

She’s had some visible color variation since their engagement photos and at one point it was a huge deal that she had a stray gray showing. Kate went completely gray in her 20s and plenty of women do. I don’t know why people get worked up about it. Her growth-covered face is much more off-putting to me. She’s had many of them removed since childhood but the effect is still rather unpleasant.



I still can’t believe she let them leave these shots in the final edit of their Netflix series:

 

[multiverse]

More on topic: if, by perchance, the kids were born via surrogate, what does that actually mean wrt their legitimacy in the BRF?

If they used a surrogate, then their heir were not born "of the body" of the Duke's wife and they are not eligible to be in the line of succession to the throne. I believe they can still inherit titles these days so long as the genetic material came from the titled man's wife, but royalty is a different ball game from the aristocracy in that regard.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Didn't know we have type of hair by letter and number.

I'm 1b, as God intended.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

This is sort of evergreen but a very important point about Harry is that his experience was that when he was wronged (by his mother’s untimely death), millions of people sympathized with him and gave him a lot of credit for his suffering. So it makes sense that as an adult, Harry would gravitate towards cultivating a renewed persona of a son who has been wronged again and expect to get that same sympathy, credit and goodwill. I think he’s genuinely baffled it hasn’t worked out that way.

Chase Hughes makes the point more eloquently here:

 

[Simpers]

I submit for sperging: the children’s names. I know very little actual information about this but I was horrified both times they announced a kid’s name.

Archie immediately and unfailingly recalls their charity or organization or whatever you call it, Archewell. It doesn’t seem like that could possibly be accidental. And Lilibet is just creepy and bizarre, like naming someone your grandfather’s pet name for your grandmother. Oh… wait.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Kate went completely gray in her 20s and plenty of women do.

I'm sorry, did I miss something? Kate WHO went completely gray in her 20s?

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I'm sorry, did I miss something? Kate WHO went completely gray in her 20s?

When Catherine, the Princess of Wales was pregnant her roots started showing and it became known that she had gone gray in her 20s.

 

[Otterly]

The one thing the UK press does better than any other is poke fun at people in power:

Our political cartooning is a shadow of what it once was but sometimes they still do a funny one

even little black girls are led to believe they’re “supposed” to straighten their hair.

This is really sad. As a young woman I went to Asia on some fieldwork and kept meeting these astoundingly pretty women who were trying to whiten their skin and expressed envy of mine (I am as pale as humans can get, that kind of almost blue transparency, pict style.) this was an age where all the white girls wanted to tan, and I was trying to explain to all these astoundingly beautiful women why western women wanted to be orange. It was an eye opener anyway. We want what we don’t have perhaps,

I found it strange that so many white women didn’t know what black women go through with their hair.

It’s not surprising. I grew up in the north in the before times. I encountered non brits when I was a student, and closely knew precisely one non-British person until I was a postgrad . My first ‘black friend ‘ (gotta catch em all!) was in my thirties and I dont think we ever talked about hair. Bongistan was basically white up until that point outside of London and the Bradford to brum caliphate regions

she had gone gray in her 20s.

Stress does a number on you, as does pain. I suspect Catherine has been struggling quietly with her health behind the scenes for a lot longer than we know. She has looked in pain for quite a while IMO.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Stress does a number on you, as does pain. I suspect Catherine has been struggling quietly with her health behind the scenes for a lot longer than we know. She has looked in pain for quite a while IMO.

Well she had to be hospitalized during at least one of her pregnancies due to hyperemesis gravidarum (HG), a rare and severe form of morning sickness that leads to dehydration, weight loss, and electrolyte imbalances. HG is completely debilitating and only affects approximately 0.3% to 1.5% of pregnancies. Catherine experienced HG during all three of her pregnancies and they had to announce her first pregnancy before the end of the first trimester due to her hospitalization.

Some of the anti-Kate loons claim that she didn’t have cancer and was just hiding after having had a face lift. She still looks quite haggard to me so I don’t give this theory any credence. But the pro-Sussex brigade bring the cray just as reliably as their counterparts. They will frequently comment that William “obviously hates his wife,” that it’s a loveless marriage, etc. I was actually surprised Harry didn’t bring up the Rose Hanbury rumors in Spare. That would have been an instant nuke that would have permanently burned all bridges without question.

 

[Barbarella]

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Archie immediately and unfailingly recalls their charity or organization or whatever you call it, Archewell. It doesn’t seem like that could possibly be accidental. And Lilibet is just creepy and bizarre, like naming someone your grandfather’s pet name for your grandmother. Oh… wait.

Interestingly, I read that Archie was the code name security used for George.

Lily is a fine name and would have been a good tribute. Taking the actual private family nickname, Lilibet, was appalling, even to these American eyes.

Elizabeth’s husband called her Cabbage, or so I understand. I’m surprised the child wasn’t named Cabbage Lilibet.

I’d love to have been a fly on the wall when these names were discussed. I also thought the Monarch had to approve names, so was that done? Did they skip that part? Were they told no and said said fuck them? I can’t imagine Meghan had been dreaming of a girl named Lilibet all her life, come on. Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor also sounds ridiculous together.

 

[Otterly]

hyperemesis gravidarum (HG),

HG is a bitch. Massive sympathy for her, women can end up with internal tears and hernias from the vomiting. Wrecks your teeth and wipes you out completely.
I think she’s been ill with something else for a while though. Possibly gut related, she often seems like she’s in pain.
Whatever it is, I wish her well, and she’s got the ‘never complain, never explain’ thing down pat.