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You ever met an adult Young Earth Creationist? There is no amount of physical, visible evidence that will convince them otherwise. Everything you find, down to the genetic similarity between chimps and humans, the massive distance light has to travel to reveal galaxies that went extinct billions of years ago, has an explanation, and even if it doesn't, will be casually dismissed. That's how lefties are with "brown good, white bad."
I've always wanted to gaslight somebody into thinking the Bible was written by Satan
 
Notice how the anti China sentiment is ramping up on the Dems after China has made it clear they are a nation that looks after its society made of Han chinese first and no the Jews cant all come to China as the next host. Notice after that major billionaires realized they had to salvage the USA instead of bouncing and opposed Trump less and even supported him.

Speaking of China.

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Today, we have correctly identified leftism as not a political stance or set of policy options, but as a religion with articles of faith, priests, heretics, and original sin.

Leftist political devotion, as @The Ugly One so succinctly put it, is faith based and cannot be "destroyed by facts and logic". Whites are evil, browns are good, guns are evil, criminals are good, having children is evil, deindustrialization is good.
The type of people you're talking about love to pride themselves on "we love logic and reason and common sense", though many of them dove right into gender woo. They have replaced any religion in their lives with far left politics. Also note how most new atheist types don't criticize Islam or Judaism while they see Christianity as fair game. - Probably because part of the reason for Islam would be they view it as the "brown people religion" or otherwise know in the back of their mind they will get killed if a Muslim overhears them mocking Muhammad. It wouldn't surprise me if you point this out to them, you'll start hearing them go on about "racist" or in the case of Judaism "neo-nazi".
 

Today, President Trump, at the invitation of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, met with Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa. President Erdogan of Turkey joined by phone. President Erdogan praised President Trump for lifting sanctions on Syria and committed to working alongside Saudi Arabia to encourage peace and prosperity in Syria. The Crown Prince also commended President Trump for his decision to lift the sanctions, calling it courageous. President Trump thanked President Erdogan and the Crown Prince for their friendship, and told President Al-Sharaa that he has a tremendous opportunity to do something historic in his country. President Trump encouraged President Al-Sharaa to do a great job for the Syrian people, and urged him to:

1. Sign onto the Abraham Accords with Israel
2. Tell all foreign terrorists to leave Syria
3. Deport Palestinian terrorists
4. Help the United States to prevent the resurgence of ISIS
5. Assume responsibility for ISIS detention centers in Northeast Syria

President Al-Sharaa thanked President Trump, the Crown Prince, and President Erdogan for their efforts to put together the meeting, and recognized the significant opportunity presented by the Iranians leaving Syria, as well as shared U.S.-Syrian interests in countering terrorism and eliminating chemical weapons. President Al-Sharaa affirmed his commitment to the 1974 disengagement with Israel. President Al-Sharaa concluded with his hope that Syria would serve as a critical link in facilitating trade between east and west, and invited American companies to invest in Syrian oil and gas.


MAKING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION GREAT AGAIN: Today in Qatar, President Donald J. Trump signed an agreement with Qatar to generate an economic exchange worth at least $1.2 trillion. President Trump also announced economic deals totaling more than $243.5 billion between the United States and Qatar, including an historic sale of Boeing aircraft and GE Aerospace engines to Qatar Airways.

  • The landmark deals celebrated today will drive innovation and prosperity for generations, bolster American manufacturing and technological leadership, and put America on the path to a new Golden Age.
  • Since President Trump took office, his commitment to American manufacturing and innovation has attracted trillions of dollars in investments and global commercial deals. Allies like Qatar are partnering in the United States’ success.
  • The following represent just a few of the many groundbreaking deals secured in Qatar:
    • Boeing and GE Aerospace secured a landmark order from Qatar Airways, a $96 billion agreement to acquire up to 210 American-made Boeing 787 Dreamliner and 777X aircraft powered by GE Aerospace engines. This is Boeing’s largest-ever widebody order and largest-ever 787 order. This historic agreement will support 154,000 U.S. jobs annually, totaling over 1 million jobs in the United States during the course of production and delivery of this deal.
    • McDermott has a strong partnership with Qatar Energy in advancing critical energy infrastructure, with seven active projects worth $8.5 billion. As the sole provider of offshore components for Qatar’s major LNG expansion, McDermott’s work directly supports thousands of U.S. energy sector jobs.
    • Parsons has successfully won 30 projects worth up to $97 billion. These high-value engagements have fueled significant company growth, supporting thousands of jobs across the United States and reinforcing American leadership in cutting-edge engineering and innovation.
    • Quantinuum finalized a Joint Venture Agreement with Al Rabban Capital, a prominent Qatari company, to invest up to $1 billion in state-of-the-art quantum technologies and workforce development in the United States, supporting U.S. jobs and leadership in this critical emerging technology.
  • Today’s signings mark President Trump’s intent to accelerate Qatar’s defense investment in the U.S.-Qatar security partnership—enhancing regional deterrence and benefitting the U.S. industrial base.
    • The defense deals secured today lock in Qatar’s procurement of state-of-the-art military equipment from two leading U.S. defense companies.
    • Raytheon, an RTX business, secured a $1 billion agreement for Qatar’s acquisition of counter-drone capabilities, signed by the U.S. and Qatari governments. This deal establishes Qatar as the first international customer for Raytheon’s Fixed Site – Low, Slow, Small Unmanned Aerial System Integrated Defeat System (FS-LIDS) designed to counter unmanned aircraft. The deal directly supports high-skilled manufacturing and engineering jobs in the United States and reinforces America’s leadership in innovative defense technologies.
    • General Atomics secured a nearly $2 billion agreement for Qatar’s acquisition of the MQ-9B remotely piloted aircraft system, signed by the U.S. and Qatari governments. This deal will strengthen the U.S.-Qatar bilateral relationship and provide the Qatari Armed Forces with the most advanced multi-mission remotely piloted aircraft in the world, powered by U.S. products made in America.
    • The United States and Qatar also signed a statement of intent to further strengthen our security partnership, outlining over $38 billion in potential investments including support for burden-sharing at Al Udeid Air Base and future defense capabilities related to air defense and maritime security.
  • These new agreements and instruments aim to drive the growth of the U.S.-Qatar bilateral commercial relationship, create thousands of well-paying jobs, and open new trade and investment opportunities for both countries over the coming decade and beyond.

CATALYZING PROSPERITY THROUGH GREATER TRADE AND INVESTMENT: The United States and Qatar have a long history of trade and a strong commercial relationship, including significant long-term aviation, critical infrastructure, information technology, and consulting deals.

  • Qatar’s strategic goals outlined in Qatar National Vision 2030 create opportunities for U.S. businesses in multiple sectors.
  • The United States had a $2 billion trade surplus with Qatar in 2024 and has had a positive trade balance with Qatar since 2003.
    • In 2024, U.S.-Qatar trade totaled $5.64 billion, with $3.8 billion in U.S. exports and $1.8 billion in Qatari imports.
    • Qatar’s greenfield investment in the United States totaled $3.3 billion in 2023, focused on hotels and tourism, information technology, advanced manufacturing, financial services, and oil and gas.
  • This visit advances opportunities for U.S. companies to expand long-standing partnerships and for Qatari entities to embrace U.S. technologies, adopt best practices, and finalize new agreements for significant sales and investments.
    • Qatar has made significant investments in the United States across hotels and tourism, financial services, technology, healthcare, and energy, with plans to invest even more over the next five years. These investments strengthen the U.S. economy by supporting good-paying jobs for millions of American workers, expanding U.S. exports, and funding research and development.
    • Qatar has the third largest proven reserves of natural gas in the world, and has invested in American energy infrastructure, directly contributing to U.S. energy security and industrial resilience.
    • Starting in 2019, QatarEnergy initiated $18 billion in investments in the U.S. energy sector with ExxonMobil’s Golden Pass LNG Terminal ($10 billion) and Chevron Phillips Chemical’s Golden Triangle Polymers Plant ($8 billion), both located on the Texas Gulf Coast.
  • Qatar is our 12th largest Foreign Military Sales partner with active cases valued at more than $26 billion.
  • Qatar’s expansive investment in and trade with the United States contribute to U.S. and Qatari economic growth and prosperity, and Qatar’s choice of U.S. industry’s best-fit solutions supports the U.S. strategic goal of growing our industrial presence throughout the Gulf and the region as a whole.

THE ART OF THE DEAL: President Trump is securing billions in investments to revitalize American manufacturing, delivering on his promise to bring back “Made in America” and usher in a new Golden Age of prosperity.

  • Today’s announcement builds on yesterday’s $600 billion investment commitment secured in Saudi Arabia.
  • It also follows the announcement of an historic trade agreement with the United Kingdom and a joint agreement with China to reduce reciprocal tariffs.
  • By securing these investments, President Trump is spurring a manufacturing renaissance, driving economic growth, and creating high-paying jobs across the nation.
  • Prior to this historic deal, President Trump had already attracted trillions in U.S.-based investments, laying the foundation for an era of unprecedented American prosperity.
  • President Trump is building on his record of success with Qatar, exemplified by his leadership in the 2019 GE Aerospace GEnx engine sale to power Qatar Airways’ then-newly acquired Boeing 787-9 aircraft—a monumental purchase in the history of both companies.
  • As the dealmaker in chief, President Trump’s latest achievement in Qatar is another win for America.
 
The most significant development in the last several years has been the widespread revelation inside right wing circles that leftism and it's ideological underpinnings are secular replacements for religion but are still imbued with strong religious fervor and devotion.

20 years ago conservatives viewed left wing politics as simply the opposite side of the coin operated by the same type of rational people on the right; "they could be reasonable and persuaded" was still the default approach.

Today, we have correctly identified leftism as not a political stance or set of policy options, but as a religion with articles of faith, priests, heretics, and original sin.

Leftist political devotion, as @The Ugly One so succinctly put it, is faith based and cannot be "destroyed by facts and logic". Whites are evil, browns are good, guns are evil, criminals are good, having children is evil, deindustrialization is good.
Once upon a time, lefties believed in evolution normally, and it made them happy to spite the idea of god.

Now they’ve decided to attempt to control and pervert evolution. You’re not allowed to throw down tyrants, junkies are revived and set back on the street, you can’t defend yourself in places they control, and they want to subsidize the lives of people who won’t work.

It’s like if melkor suddenly had the realization that his typical evil had been sung already in the ainulindalë and it pissed him off and set him to trying to control higher order systems
 
Expecting a bunch of malnourished shit skins to properly utilize Western technology is a stretch. Ineffective operators make for poor examples of their combat effectiveness.

The thing is though the American interventionist crowd been relying on India to counter China and importing many of them on the side.

And as was seen last week, those hopes just got crushed badly and isn't much of a surprise looking at how Silicon Valley has gone to shit.

The fact that an email is mandatory to start up Windows 11 is absolute bullshit and discriminatory at people who don't want to deal with emails.
 
>Darwin

Yeah, reading Paradise Lost twice in your life decades apart makes someone knowledgeable about Christian theology. - Incidentally, look at what happens when societies secularize; you get things like "Can dogs be transgender" and similar talking points becoming widespread.

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Religion ought to be about "Have faith that God exists within uncertainty", not "Deny what you see before you and replace it with God."
Agnostic cognitive dissonance to serve psychological and social aims is not the same as faith. You don't have to take everything at face value.

Your pic is so unbelievably fucking retarded
>Homo Sapiens is 200k years old (anatomically modern and "fully evolved" humans (sapiens sapiens) first existed 90-160k years ago)

>Evidence of civilization is 10-12k years old, most evidence before that suggests loose and violent tribal life, and is limited to carved seashells and clay statues the like

>It took 5-6k years of civilizations rising and falling before the progenitors to modern culture came to settle, and it took an additional 2-3k years before the foundations of modern culture and standards of premodern civilizational organization, resource accumulation and trade, economy, and warfare fully came about, and early foundational technologies like crude steam engines first came to be understood, but not exploited due to non-plus-ultra culture, an additional ~1500 years for the foundations of mathematics and science to solidify, and an additional 4-500 years for the right men to be in the right position to invent labor reducing steam powered machines sending mankind into a positive feedback loop of industrial optimization, population growth, and technological development which eventually gave us the means to build vehicles with enough endogenous delta v potential to propel humans into stable orbits around the planet, and beyond.

>The 190k years of human tribal strife, cultural metamorphosis, cataclysmic events, migration, racial speciation, and adaptation were obviously fake because humankind, without structured education, records of information, or understanding of natural laws, did not magically know about every future black swan event, and plan and act accordingly

That image is retarded and you are retarded
 
Once upon a time, lefties believed in evolution normally, and it made them happy to spite the idea of god.

Now they’ve decided to attempt to control and pervert evolution. You’re not allowed to throw down tyrants, junkies are revived and set back on the street, you can’t defend yourself in places they control, and they want to subsidize the lives of people who won’t work.

It’s like if melkor suddenly had the realization that his typical evil had been sung already in the ainulindalë and it pissed him off and set him to trying to control higher order systems
Anarco-Tyranny is a tool for them.
 
If you look past the people who were doing that back then, cursory analysis of them showed you the real reason they were doing it: It wasn't just them being taught shitty lessons - shitty lessons are a problem but they do not, in and of themselves, create shitty people like these. Instead, it was the pathological need to be morally superior to someone. It shows a stunning level of insecurity and immaturity, existing solely to allow the shittiest possible people to be dicks to others with the full support of their conscience.
Religious fanatics need heretics, backsliders, and infidels to punish in order to display their own righteousness. If there aren't any real ones handy, they'll create some. Not my original insight, but the prevelance of fake hate crimes and manufactured outrage shows that the demand for racism exceeds its supply.

Society was rebuilt from the groundup to prevent National Socialism from ever rising again. And i dont mean Nazi's. I mean Nation first people who care about society and its inhabitants and view time tested solutions to get there as a viable approach. Yes it stops Nazis too but its basically against all social right wing positions.

This was done by a combination of actors such as Dems making sure their enemies could never rise again. Capitalists making sure they wouldnt get challenges from the right on their excess. Jews to make sure that a nation would never demand a subgroup assimilate ever again. Communists for obvious reasons. All of those groups are fine with China except hardcore communists who Xi got rid of. The commies over here are fine with the technical W of the CCP being commie in name.

The postwar order from 1945-1965 was Wilsonian, and what you might call "neighborly nationalism." The vision was that each people group would have its own nation-state, resource needs would be resolved through trade and diplomacy, immigration would be limited (millions upon millions of Pakistanis migrating to England wasn't even technologically possible in 1945), and the UN would mediate disputes. It was a flawed vision because it assumed peace and technology would cause Muslims, Hindus, and other non-Christian civilizations to progress to where the West was, more or less, and that Jeffersonian rights & democracy were universal principles that all cultures would eventually embrace as they advanced.

However, the deeper problem is that Communists never accepted the vision to begin with. The Communists' vision was for a global, homogeneous society, no nations, no borders, no cultures, no peoples. All states, languages, religions, national identities, economies, and histories would be replaced by the unifield world of Communism. The West never dealt with its own internal Communism problem, because our doctrines of free speech made it hard to understand how to deal with it, and so Marxists successfully subverted every academy in our entire sphere and, by the 1960s, had replaced "neighborly nationalism" with Marxism. The first two steps of Marxism in the West were race-Marxism and gender-Marxism. However, the collapse of the USSR and the undeniable crimes of both the USSR and the PRC discredited economic and political Communism completely, but we'd already wholly bought in morally and culturally to race-Marxism and gender-Marxism, leading eventaully to sexuality-Marxism (transgenderism is just gender-Marxism + sexuality-Marxism), and are just lurching along with our own weird, hybrid of Marxism and capitalism, which is in truth what every Marxist society ends up doing because Communism causes starvation, and people like to eat.
 
Oh we fucking absolutely do. We put these fucking scum up in hotels. We take them to whatever hospital they want. They invariably get kicked out of EVERY SINGLE PLACE WE TAKE THEM.

That's the problem, we treat these people with compassion, and when they throw it in our face we do... nothing. 20 years ago they would end up in a cage, where by any metric they belong. Now we just repeat the cycle of toxic positivity until they move along or die.

I say as soon as you exhaust the goodwill of three whole cities we should just bury you in Potter's Field and move on to someone whom we might actually help.
Anecdote time:

The city I am in has a terrible homeless problem. Recently, a bunch of progressives succeeded in getting funding to create their dream service that they swore would be the darling of the entire nation.

It started with converting an old, large hotel into a place with beds, showers, food, wrap around services for getting clean, job prospects, mental health doctors... you name it. It was a fucking one stop shop that anyone who's fallen into homelessness could enter and walk out clean, with a job, medications, and a line on permanent housing. There were "Security" personnel, but actual police were discouraged from going in unless they were specifically called or had a warrant. This was to encourage addicts to take shelter there to address the mistrust of police.

The catch: You had to follow some very basic human considerations. Simple things like not shitting and pissing in the bushes out front. Common sense things like "don't drag your scrap metal you salvaged out of a dumpster to the lobby and leave it in a corner." No nonsense things like: Don't sit outside the door and harass or molest people walking by. Basically, don't act like a fucking savage animal.

The building is back to a privately owned again after a couple years of the neighborhood being terrorized by swarms of Fent/Meth heads and psychotic individuals standing in traffic and yelling at cars and clouds. I'm not sure if that was because the program was put together and ran like shit, or the people simply took advantage of a place to get high in relative comfort. Probably a little of both.

But we spent a shit ton of taxpayer dollars. We were scolded repeatedly by nigger women and blue hairs on the news about how we need to give these people a break and how if we just exhibit a little compassion, we could help these people. Stepping over puddles of human piss and replacing your car windows was a small price to pay.

It was everything progressive folks have insisted would solve the problem for decades and it became everything normal people knew it would be in a matter of weeks. Fucking animals. All of them.
 
However, the deeper problem is that Communists never accepted the vision to begin with. The Communists' vision was for a global, homogeneous society, no nations, no borders, no cultures, no peoples. All states, languages, religions, national identities, economies, and histories would be replaced by the unifield world of Communism. The West never dealt with its own internal Communism problem, because our doctrines of free speech made it hard to understand how to deal with it, and so Marxists successfully subverted every academy in our entire sphere and, by the 1960s, had replaced "neighborly nationalism" with Marxism. The first two steps of Marxism in the West were race-Marxism and gender-Marxism. However, the collapse of the USSR and the undeniable crimes of both the USSR and the PRC discredited economic and political Communism completely, but we'd already wholly bought in morally and culturally to race-Marxism and gender-Marxism, leading eventaully to sexuality-Marxism (transgenderism is just gender-Marxism + sexuality-Marxism), and are just lurching along with our own weird, hybrid of Marxism and capitalism, which is in truth what every Marxist society ends up doing because Communism causes starvation, and people like to eat
Three Communist empires each with a tailored Marxism to each one.
 
IDK boss I think its a hilarious meme and got some good truth to it, Im like a good bit of what trumps doing and even think the middle east foreign policy is good but strip all your feelings about both sides away for a second

He yells at one guy for showing up to meeting in tshirt, height of disrespect (cause he owes us money)

Goes to another meeting diffrent guy he likes with flip flops and says nothing (got free plane from him)

and dont give me the whole "they cant cause culture or something"
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these guys figured out shoes and one even stumbled into a tailor it seems, what luck!
I don't know if you need a med schedule change, sleep, or both but you've been coming across as very, very strange in a thread full of very strange people. If you can't figure out how important respect is and how it relates to culture in foreign policy, you need to reflect on the prior post that already explained it, and explained it well. You've been ping ponging back and forth so much from TDS to Trump is cool that it's becoming schizo and impossible to take you seriously anymore. Which is too bad because you've had some good posts in the past.

Trump seems to be fighting to bring respect back to the US, both on our own soil and worldwide. While I don't for a single second trust any country to be an ally anymore (including Israel) it's nice to see our head of state getting some respect because in turn it's giving respect to our nation, something that's been lacking for a long, long time.
 
The thing is though the American interventionist crowd been relying on India to counter China and importing many of them on the side.
The biological argument doesn't even work here because the Pakis are just Muslim jeets. What does throw a bit of a wrench into is that India was using Russian & European tech and the Pakis still have ties to US defense contractors.

I'm not sure if it's a statement on hardware quality or a statement that Indians can only function if they're ruled over by a dictatorship serving as a client for foreign powers. Literally the only times that India has shown even a glimmer of civilization were when they were ruled by steppe people or Europeans.
 
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