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Nah, too much of a minefield and people are ignorant of what the Civil Right's act actually involves, other than it sounds nice and important due to the name. Instead of Art of the Deal, you need to take a page from the liberal's playbook and mess around with wordgames instead. The problem with Republicans removing the civil rights act, is that people will only see what is in bold. What you need to do is write a new bill that will overwrite some of the CRA legislation under the guise of "improving" or "clarifying" it, while not directly touching the CRA bill its self.

Nobody cares what I think, so this is just online wishcasting, but I think the best way Republicans could do this is create a Right To Participate Lawfully in Democracy. The gist of it should be that you may not be denied employment or business services because you publicly expressed an opinion on law, government, elections, and politics. That would be the time to slide in a neutralization of the disparate impact clause.
 
Wisconsin Judge Accused of Obstructing Immigration Agents Seeks Dismissal of Case
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Mitch Smith
2025-05-14 18:57:57GMT
Lawyers for Judge Hannah C. Dugan, a state judge in Wisconsin who has been accused of obstructing immigration agents, sought on Wednesday to dismiss the federal charges against her.

A court filing by her defense lawyers, which came a day after Judge Dugan was indicted by a federal grand jury in Milwaukee, asserted that the “government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts.” “Since at least the early 17th century in England, and carried on through common law in the United States, judges of record have been entitled to absolute immunity for official acts with a few exceptions not applicable here,” the filing said, adding that the efforts to prosecute the judge were “virtually unprecedented and entirely unconstitutional.”

Justice Department officials have defended their prosecution of Judge Dugan. They say the judge directed an undocumented immigrant who was appearing in her courtroom last month to an exit that was separate from a hallway where immigration officers were waiting to arrest him. The Justice Department did not immediately respond on Wednesday to a request for comment.

“It doesn’t matter what line of work you are in, if you break the law, we will follow the facts and we will prosecute you,” Attorney General Pam Bondi has said about the case.

The immigrant, Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, was arrested outside the courthouse following a foot chase. Mr. Flores-Ruiz, a Mexican immigrant, was in the United States illegally, federal authorities have said. He had appeared in Judge Dugan’s courtroom in Milwaukee County Circuit Court in connection with a domestic abuse case.

F.B.I. agents arrested Judge Dugan several days later, and she was indicted on Tuesday on charges of concealing a person from arrest and obstruction of proceedings. She is scheduled to appear in federal court in Milwaukee on Thursday. She has been temporarily removed from the bench by the Wisconsin Supreme Court while the federal case against her is in progress.

The case quickly became synonymous with the Trump administration’s broader immigration crackdown, and their warnings to local officials that they must not obstruct deportation efforts. The Trump administration has described the prosecution as a warning that no one is above the law, while many Democrats, lawyers and former judges have denounced it as an assault on the judiciary.

Judge Dugan’s motion to dismiss the case argued that “this is no ordinary criminal case, and Dugan is no ordinary criminal defendant.”

Judge Dugan’s lawyers wrote that the government’s prosecution of the judge “violates the Tenth Amendment and fundamental principles of federalism and comity reflected in that amendment and in the very structure of the United States Constitution.”

Earlier this month, more than 150 former state and federal judges signed a letter to Ms. Bondi calling the arrest of Judge Dugan an attempt to intimidate the judiciary.

“This cynical effort undermines the rule of law,” that letter said, “and destroys the trust the American people have in the nation’s judges to administer justice in the courtrooms and in the halls of justice across the land.”
 
Before Current Year, I heard that hippies are the founders of "political correctness" as it was in the '90s.

Of course since then, "political correctness" has spread and mutated into "social justice"... like a cancer.
More or less. Of course hippies have become a pop culture character like pirates or cowboys, there's a lot of nuance to them that got lost.

The zeitgeist of our world is very similar to the 1970s. Despite our habit of naming cultural periods by decades, that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. The cultural 50s started more around the mid-50s and lasted into the mid-60s, and the cultural 60s and 70s were the same period lasting from the mid-60s into maybe the mid or late 70s. Season of the Witch: Enchantment, Terror and Deliverance in the City of Love is a great depiction of San Francisco's turn from the Summer of Love (the heroic 1960s) to the "winters of discontent" (the grungy 1970s) and captures a lot of the hippies/60s Leftist/Progressive insanity, written by somebody that is sympathetic to it. Around 1964 or so you get a revolution in American culture that suddenly we go from cheesy-ass rock-and-roll, barbershop quarters, bubblegum boy and girl bands to classic rock, folk, and the beginnings of the really experimental stuff. Suddenly you go from the aesthetics of Leave it to Beaver/Pleasantville/The Andy Griffith Show to the Summer of Love. Politically, it hinges around the Civil Rights Act and Kennedy and Johnson taking power from Eisenhower. Religiously, the 1950s were a peak; think Moral Orel.

Let's call them the Long Fifties and the Long Seventies. Shitcan the idea of the Sixties. And some of what pop culture tries to pin on the Long Seventies is actually the Long Fifties. Civil Rights in the South? That's the Long Fifties. All that shit happened in the 1950s, just about. It shifts North (and broadens into a socialist agenda aimed at economic equality and imposing itself into White social spaces) after achieving political victory in the South.

Leftists weren't just "politically correct." Make no mistake, they were as militant and batshit crazy back then as now. This was the heyday of the Black Panthers, the Black Liberation Army waging a terrorist campaign against the NYPD and massive Black race riots every other day in the cities. This was the heyday of the Days of Rage and the Weather Underground. Terror attacks were usually just dumbass spoiled rich Jewboys bombing toilets in buildings, but there was a campaign of bombings and stick-up robberies all over the country by Leftist Revolutionary outfits; although they were far from having the mass support to actually wage a revolution (very different from the ton of the 1870s or 1920s), they thought that they were. Che Guevara wasn't the only hero; Mao Zedong was just as revered. Jim Jones was a political powerhouse in San Francisco and Jonestown was meant to be a pro-integration Liberation Theology (Christian Communist syncretism) Black/White utopia.

Read Days of Rage by Burrough for that. The kids (Burrough does not discuss this) that played Mao Zedong against the US Government went on to groom Obama and the Long Teens (2014-2020s, Clown World) Antifa.

Everything today is history rhyming (like you said) with the Long Seventies, on a fifty-year cycle that I've come to identify. (Mind, someone else has probably recognized this before me.) Antifa = Weather Underground and other White/Jew revolutionaries. BLM = Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, BLA, SLA (Symbionese Liberation Army) and others.

Reparations was a common goal. Second Wave Feminism was retarded. Free love and anti-family propaganda was everywhere in the Left camp.

The only difference between then and now is that they didn't have full capture of the institutions. They were powerful in academia, but not monopolistically so. They had certain cities locked down, but didn't have all of them. The media didn't especially side with them, but Hollywood did (particularly in the long run). The average person was fucking bewildered and hated this shit. It was the first at two attempts of an American Cultural Revolution, and it essentially won the media

The character we call a hippie is many different things. In modern pop culture it's usually a soft-hearted utopian type that is into weed, playing their faggy little guitar, faux Buddhism/New Age spirituality, that stuff. That was a big part of it, but hippiedom included a lot of different types. Back then the aesthetics often, oddly, drew on the American West and South; listen to the old classic/country rock, look at the costumes these people wear, and you see lots of cavalry hats, belt buckles, twanginess, a huge interest in folk crafts. There was an embracing of Americana instead of a hatred of it like you get from modern day cosmopolitans. There was similarly a genuine rejection of consoomerism (not just impotent bitching about late-stage capitalism) and an agrarian/rural ethos; these hippies often built communes deep in the countryside and practiced traditional herbal medicines, alternative medicines and practices like midwifery (which The Farm in Tennessee still does). There was an overlap between hippies and biker gangs (like the Hell's Angels) that in turn linked them, as well as their drug dealing (which was a genuine counterculture then; drugs were still exotic enough to take seriously as an avenue of spiritual exploration, and were often thought by men like LSD apostle Timothy Leary to be a path to mankind's salvation), to a seedy criminal underworld, and the links of them directly to the terrorist fringe. Hippies could be just as Christian as the general public; a huge body of Christian hippie music exists. These people were called Jesus Freaks because a "freak" was an enthusiast (ie speed freak, LSD freak, animal freak, Jesus freak).

Hippies/New Age were, in a lot of ways, a New Religious Movement with no core. It was a revival of utopian socialism from the 1800s; it was a revival of Anabaptism from the Reformation. New Age was like a convoluted, confused soup that came from Dharmic religion and Abrahamic values/thought processes colliding. It prioritized imagination over revelation or philosophy. It's quaint nowadays, but I just finished reading Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land, and that was one of the Long Fifties novels that laid the groundwork for the Long Seventies. That one deals with (through a man raised by Martians traveling to Earth) the nature of religion as sociological phenomena, free love and belief; the lad in the book becomes a Jesus-like figure and gets his martyrdom for it. The hippies were millenarians, waiting for some sort of transformative change in the world (the Age of Aquarius). They were influenced by Marxism, but only in the lame and shallow sense that they liked the good feels it gave them. I argue that Marxism is a religion, and it is, but hippies were a different branch of the family with a totally different vibe.

Hippies are a rich subject to mine, so is the Long Seventies in general. It's a period I became intensely interested in over the past few years.



Edit: I forgot to talk about environmentalism. It was a thing to. If you're unfamiliar with this stuff, I think you'd be shocked at how UNIMPORTANT it was to hippies. It was a part of their worldview; it was not the all-consuming black hole of attention it is today.

Civil Rights goes violent and peters out when it goes North. In the South it's Southern terror against Blacks which the Federal Govt squashes with military occupations. In the North it's Blacks rioting, destroying cities, getting aggressive. Southern Blacks went nonviolent and church-based because anything else would have gotten them wiped out. The Southern post-Civil Rights experience went a lot smoother; through the Long Fifties, many employers wanted desegregation, the youth were starting to mingle on a large scale with Blacks, and the average Southerner was not hostile to desegregation but was cowed by what was a de facto one-party state that could socially ruin people that stood against it. Civil Rights isn't just imposed from outside; the White Southern establishment sort of negotiates its own surrender under pressure from the outside. I believe the obsession with "hatred" is a huge mistake in how we interpret the past. Before emancipation, Southern society is better interpreted through fear and selfishness; afterwards, mostly fear. The Southerners were basically, from Haiti onwards, always terrified that Black political emancipation would end in a genocide, social emancipation in destruction of Western culture within the South. When that didn't happen (well, at least not overnight...), they took a huge chill pill.

The big trouble up North kicks off with forced integration. In the North segregation was done by the market, not by law. It was just as segregated for most people, just that you COULD find specific cases of Blacks mingling. Desegregation and integration were different things, not just synonyms. One is getting rid of state barriers to mingling; the other is forcing people to mingle. In the North they started forcing Whites and Blacks together and they both hated it. The Whites fled to the suburbs (White Flight). It was a real mistake, as the two had different cultures, whereas White and Black Southerners shared a culture.

A good - shockingly evenhanded - portrayal of the Black experience in the Long Seventies South is The Wonder Years reboot.


Watch All in the Family (Archie Bunker). It's a great depiction of the Long Seventies from a square's perspective. Archie is a sympathetic man; he's the fool of the show, but so is his bigot Black neighbor Jefferson (The Jeffersons is his spinoff). So is Meathead (his dumbass son-in-law that's a college libtard type). A big part of what people get out of it is that it depicts the silliness of bigotry on all sides and it does so without demonizing people. Bunker is funny and lovable because he reminds people of their racist uncles, fathers and grandpas that are flawed people but good people at their core.

Also watch Sanford and Son. It's like Archie Bunker, kind of, but with a based old salt-of-the-earth working class Black man (the kind you see in old movies) and his Black nationalist type son. A typical Sanford and Son episode would be something like the son showing up wearing a dashiki and leapord skin Mobutu-style hat saying he's now a Muslim going by the name Shakalaka Zulu. The dad makes some old man jokes about him chucking spears and just totally clowns on him while being totally unphased. Dude brings along his Ongobongo girlfriend from the Old Country or whatever and accidentally makes an ass of himself while the dad charms her with his old-time gee-shucks folksy grace.

I love them. I should watch some tonight.
 
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Give Oleg Penkovsky a little bit more credit. Kennedy won because he was reading Khrushchev's cards thanks to Oleg, at least until the Russkies caught him and shot him?/he killed himself?/tied his ass to a stretcher and rolled him into a crematorium alive? There's conflicting reports on his method of demise. Either way, once he was dead shit got a little bit more tense.

And don't start sperging, autists, I know he didn't really effect the outcome, directly. But he did help give JFK a strong hand to open, which probably was an important factor in the outcome of that whole nasty little poker game.
Certainly people helped. At the end of the day though, Kennedy was willing to push the Red Button. Khrushchev wasn't. He used nuclear war to stop nuclear war. That is beyond insane.
 
The ICE fighting judge is seeking judicial immunity which was expected.

It's the go to defence for most law types just saying that ICE cannot charge her as she was "operating in her offical office" yah good luck with that.

How is delaying ICE agents and assisting a illegal alien to escape capture part of a judges official duties? Maybe a Lefty Activist judges duties but that shit won't fly I bet.
 
I'm not American but I never understood Kennedy Enslavement Syndrome.

Shortest possible explanation for a Brit: He's the American version of Princess Diana (a striver whore who sucked, actually, but is beloved because she was photogenic, had good PR, and died tragically).
 
Somehow this is all Trump’s fault.
Maryland’s credit dips for first time in decades. Democrats blame Trump.
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Katie Shepherd
2025-05-14 18:25:20GMT
The D.C. region’s already precarious economic outlook turned a shade darker on Wednesday, after the bond rating agency Moody’s stripped Maryland of its long-held triple-A rating.

The move, following a similar downgrade of the District’s bonds last month, potentially makes it more expensive for the state to borrow money and marks one of the first measurable impacts of the Trump administration’s deep cuts to the federal workforce and spending.

Moody’s downgraded Maryland’s bond rating to Aa1 but raised its long-term outlook to stable from negative. The rating agency said in a report published Wednesday that its decision was driven by “economic and financial under performance” compared to other states with a triple-A bond rating. The report said that is expected to continue as Maryland faces rising costs and falling revenue due to federal policy changes.

The state’s top elected leaders were swift to place blame at President Donald Trump’s feet.

“To put it bluntly, this is a Trump downgrade,” the state’s top leaders — including Gov. Wes Moore, Lt. Gov. Aruna Miller, Treasurer Dereck Davis, Comptroller Brooke Lierman, House Speaker Adrienne Jones and Senate President Bill Ferguson, all Democrats — said in a joint statement responding to the report.

The downgrading may portend a looming economic slump in the D.C. region. Unemployment rose by 12.2 percent in February compared with a year ago, reaching 24,558 jobless claims, according to the most recent analysis by the D.C. Office of the Chief Financial Officer.

Surrounding communities, including Prince George’s and Fairfax counties, have similarly seen increases in jobless claims. And retail spending has lagged across the region, which has not fully recovered from the financial blows of the coronavirus pandemic. Those factors have led experts to warn that a regional recession may be headed our way.

Republicans in the state on Wednesday rejected the notion that Trump is to blame for the wilted bond rating.

“Donald Trump didn’t downgrade Maryland’s bond rating — Annapolis Democrats did,” Senate Minority Leader Stephen S. Hershey (R-Queen Anne’s) said in a statement. “Maryland is at the top of a financial death spiral. This is not how we win the future — and at this rate, we won’t be able to afford the future.”

House Minority Leader Jason C. Buckel (R-Allegany) said that the state should have seen the downgrade coming, and he said Democrats had inflated education spending and expanded the size of state government in recent years.

“This should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention to Maryland’s fiscal challenges,” Buckel said in a statement.

Moody’s hinted last year that Maryland would get a downgrade, even before Trump won the 2024 election, when the agency projected a negative outlook without adjusting the state’s triple-A rating.

At the time, the agency raised concerns that the state had overextended its spending, spurring deficit projections over a number of years that could balloon to more than $6 billion by 2030.

Moody’s again signaled trouble for the state in March, when it declared that Maryland faced the greatest risk of any state in the nation from federal job and spending cuts because of its higher-than-average concentration of federal workers. The state also relies on private industries, such as health care and research, that heavily depend on federal support.

“Over the last one hundred days, the federal administration’s decisions have wreaked havoc on the entire region, including Maryland,” the state’s top leaders said in the joint statement. “Washington, D.C., received a credit downgrade. Thousands of federal workers are losing their jobs. Actual and proposed cuts to everything from health care to education will continue to exact an incalculable toll on Maryland and states across the country.”

Maryland’s Democratic leaders took steps to address concerns over the state’s structural deficit during a legislative session that ended in April.

Legislative leaders passed a budget that raised taxes and cut about $2 billion in spending to close a $3 billion gap. While the rating agency acknowledged those efforts, it also recognized that state leaders may be forced to return to Annapolis to address losses stemming from federal actions later this year.

The state’s top leaders on Wednesday offered some reassurances that they will not shy away from confronting ongoing economic challenges as the Trump administration continues to whittle away the federal workforce and claw back a wide-reaching swath of federal dollars.

“Maryland still holds one of the highest possible credit ratings in the nation, and as we have for decades, we will always pay our debts,” Democratic leaders said. “We have taken proactive steps to protect our people and fortify our state in the face of federal headwinds. And together we will continue to answer crisis in Washington with courage in Maryland.”
 
I just want to see Trump do this so I can watch BLM and it's acolytes melt down in real time.

Please god emperor Trump do this one thing before you leave office.
I think it'd be better to pardon him on the way out of office or after the mid-terms than now. Doing it now will just give ammo to Democrats in 2 years.
 
I think it'd be better to pardon him on the way out of office or after the mid-terms than now. Doing it now will just give ammo to Democrats in 2 years.

Yeah, wait until after the 2028 elections, when it's well and truly over for him. If he did it after midterms it would feed BLM tards for the next two years.
 
I think it'd be better to pardon him on the way out of office or after the mid-terms than now. Doing it now will just give ammo to Democrats in 2 years.
The Derek Chauvin pardon scuttlebutt sounds like key dangling at best, scuttlebutt without basis at worst.

Chauvin was convicted of both state and federal crimes so a pardon at this point in time does literally nothing for him anyways.
 
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is a good example of a hippie-adjacent journalist whinging about Nixon constantly
Not to contradict, but Thompson had a far more nuanced view of Nixon than your post implies. The two got along quite well together in private - both were American football fanatics. Thompson was a hell of a writer (his first few books, Fear & Loathing included, are excellent). Pity he went downhill so fast, due to both excessive drug+alcohol intake and his inability to deal with the public image that he'd manufactured for himself.
 
Yeah, wait until after the 2028 elections, when it's well and truly over for him. If he did it after midterms it would feed BLM tards for the next two years.
I'd argue another summer of love would fuck over democrats much more than repubs. Nigger fatigue is at an all time high and media ability to shift the fault on Trump has been scuttled heavily. I also want some dindu to try to loot a store then get blasted, and the whole nigger lottery bullshit getting destroyed from there.
 
Not to contradict, but Thompson had a far more nuanced view of Nixon than your post implies. The two got along quite well together in private - both were American football fanatics. Thompson was a hell of a writer (his first few books, Fear & Loathing included, are excellent). Pity he went downhill so fast, due to both excessive drug+alcohol intake and his inability to deal with the public image that he'd manufactured for himself.
I'm not deeply familiar with Thompson; mostly just what I've heard people say and that book (which I didn't like, like Cormac McCarthy I wanted to like it, I was confused that I didn't like it, but I just could not like it). So it's entirely possible I completely got him wrong.
 
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