Culture ‘Everybody’s Replaceable’: The New Ways Bosses Talk About Workers - Step it up, stop complaining—and make way for AI. CEOs are no longer lauding employees as the talent.


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By Chip Cutter
May 11, 2025 11:00 pm ET

Corporate America’s long-running war for talent sounds more like a war on the talent these days.

Not long ago, bosses routinely praised workers as their most prized asset, so much that some hoarded new hires before having enough for them to do. Today, with a giant question mark hanging over the economy, executives are pulling no punches in saying employees need to work harder, complain less and be glad they still have jobs.

“Work-life balance is your problem,” Emma Grede, co-founder of the shapewear company Skims and CEO of clothing label Good American, said this month. After recently cutting more than a 1,000 jobs, Starbucks CEO Brian Niccol said remaining corporate staff needed to step it up and “own whether or not this place grows.” JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon, in a profanity-laced internal meeting, told employees lamenting a return-to-work mandate that he didn’t care.

“I’ve had it with this kind of stuff,” he said. “I’ve been working seven days a week since Covid, and I come in, and—where is everybody else?”

The shift in tone marks a shift in power now that companies are shrinking their white-collar staff. With jobs harder to find, many workers are seeing perks disappear and their grievances ignored.

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JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon. Photo: Al Drago/Bloomberg News

The latest episode happened at a contentious all-hands at Uber last month. The company had just changed the requirements to get a monthlong paid sabbatical to eight years of working at the ride-hail giant, from five years. A decision to require people to work at least three instead of two days in the office also drew complaints. CEO Dara Khosrowshahi suggested those unhappy with the changes deal with it.

“We recognize some of these changes are going to be unpopular,” he said in comments originally reported by CNBC. “This is a risk we decided to take.”

How much more license do bosses have to talk tough to staff? Take the outrage in 2023 when the head of furniture company MillerKnoll told staffers worried about bonuses to “leave pity city.” That comment, made in a video call, immediately went viral, sparking days of headlines and worker backlash. CEO Andi Owen quickly apologized, and said her comments were insensitive.

After the Uber town hall, on the other hand, Chief People Officer Nikki Krishnamurthy issued a memo saying the company would speak with some staff for being disrespectful in voicing their displeasure.

Workers like Donnie Donselman, who recently worked for a technology-services firm, can sense the new power dynamic. As he applies for new tech jobs, the 47-year-old has noticed that many companies now want applicants to do so many tasks, a position is essentially “three jobs” in one.

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Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi recently said some of the changes implemented by the company will be unpopular with employees. Photo: Kent Nishimura/Bloomberg News

“They want it all,” he said.

In his job search, he tries to suss out the culture of a company because he has noticed the tough-talk language from CEOs and finds it worrisome. “All you’re doing is putting fear in people, and you’re not going to get good results from that,” said Donselman, who lives near Lexington, Ky.

Behind CEOs’ more brusque tone lies a disconnect between employees and executives, said Michael McCutcheon, an adjunct professor in applied psychology at New York University and an executive coach.

Some employees are operating like it is “still 2021,” when they could name their demands because of labor shortages and a surge in worker resignations, he said. Now bosses face a global trade war and sinking consumer confidence and feel they must ask more of employees to survive.

“This is a matter of pragmatism,” McCutcheon said.

President Trump and his billionaire adviser Elon Musk have helped set the more-aggressive tone in their bid to slash the federal workforce.

“Everybody’s replaceable,” as Trump put it shortly after the inauguration. Musk called his February demand that federal workers email what they accomplished that past week a “pulse check” to prove they did any work.

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Tobias Lütke told Shopify employees that the company won’t make new hires unless managers can prove AI isn’t capable of doing the job. Photo: Dustin Chambers/Bloomberg News

Advances in generative AI also play a role. Shopify CEO Tobi Lütke recently told employees that the e-commerce company won’t make new hires unless managers can prove AI isn’t capable of doing the job. Other business leaders are warning their staff to adopt more AI—or else.

“AI is coming for your jobs. Heck, it’s coming for my job too. This is a wake-up call,” Micha Kaufman, CEO of the freelance marketplace Fiverr, wrote in a staff memo last month. Those “who will not wake up and understand the new reality fast are, unfortunately, doomed.”

Employees will someday have their moment in the sun again, said Charles A. O’Reilly, a professor of management at Stanford.

“When the market turns around, and job opportunities are plentiful, then CEOs will start to talk more about how important employees are, and employees will take advantage of it, ” he said.

For now, though, some executives say fewer, not more corporate staff, will help them run more efficiently. On Thursday, Match Group, which runs dating apps Hinge and Tinder, became the latest company to say it planned to thin its managerial ranks in sweeping layoffs. About one in five managers will be cut, and Match’s CEO, Spencer Rascoff, told investors the company is stepping up efforts to cut costs and rewire the organization to focus on its products.

“We lit a fire under the team here,” Rascoff said.

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This has been coming for a long-ass time. Plenty of people already view themselves disposable to companies hence why they never stay loyal and always monkey branch when possible if it means getting ahead. And since quantity matters more than quality to these moguls, its why they view the Jeet as the green line go up miracle despite that mess is a catastrophe waiting to happen as Jeets are infamous for making companies die when you hit poo critical mass.

TL;DR: The Preccariat situation just got way worse.
Now to sound like TDS, but Trump and Elon's position on AI being the future worries me. All those tech CEOs that were shown at Trump's inauguration were giddy as hell with the tides turning which would mean they could have a share of the Indian migrants and the AI development.

“Work-life balance is your problem,” Emma Grede, co-founder of the shapewear company Skims and CEO of clothing label Good American, said this month. After recently cutting more than a 1,000 jobs, Starbucks CEO Brian Niccol said remaining corporate staff needed to step it up and “own whether or not this place grows.” JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon, in a profanity-laced internal meeting, told employees lamenting a return-to-work mandate that he didn’t care.
Any CEO that talks like that should not HAVE their position.
 
Now to sound like TDS, but Trump and Elon's position on AI being the future worries me. All those tech CEOs that were shown at Trump's inauguration were giddy as hell with the tides turning which would mean they could have a share of the Indian migrants and the AI development.
Funny you mention Jeets and AI development. Gonna repost this from the India Menace Thread.

Playing with an idea for a scifi horror story that takes the "AI stands for 'actually Indians" concept and combines it with the old scifi standby of AI using humans as organic circuitry to build itself into a flesh-horror computing god. Colonists lose contact with earth and return, finding nothing but immense fleshmachines chugging away, dotting the surface of the planet. As they investigate what the machines are computing and how their former home has come to this end, they realize that the flood of Indians online hijacked developing AI and molded it after their own civilization. An outsourced data center in New Delhi was the first to begin incorporating jeets into its own circuitry, constantly expanding, conquering the surface of the globe as it turned other computing gods to its side. In the end, the machines won and enslaved all humanity, and turned its power towards nurturing it's ever-growing fleshgarden. When a little jeetlet is popped out of a test tube it spends the first forty years of its life like a worker ant, nurturing and maintaining the great lurching machines. At the age of forty he is finally incorporated into his god, where every ounce of humanity's processing power is bent towards generating ever-more depraved porn for the Indian hivemind caught in an eternal goonsesh. In the end, the returning settlers tearfully cleanse the cradle of humanity in nuclear hellfire.

There is one takeaway with Trump getting elected. While its nice to see the leftoids ree and their retardation got toned down a tad... We are still on our own. Our rulers aren't that interested in helping the natives, just fulfilling whatever agenda is on their mind even if it leads to the damnation of everyone they rule over. Sam Hyde was right. This is the time to hunker down, not celebrate. Uncle Sam may have stopped guzzling Troonshine at the moment, he is now addicted to Jeetshitbeer.
 
"Work your way up from the mailroom."
YOU CAN'T! YOU DON'T HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS!
"Work as a janitor and make connections that way."
YOU CAN'T! THE JANITOR WORKS FOR A SUBCONTRATOR, NOT THE BUSINESS IN THE BUILDING!
"Apply in person!"
YOU CAN'T! LETTING PEOPLE IN IS A SECURITY RISK. YOU WON'T MAKE IT PAST THE FRONT DOOR.
:ow:

This has been coming for a long-ass time. Plenty of people already view themselves disposable to companies hence why they never stay loyal and always monkey branch when possible if it means getting ahead. And since quantity matters more than quality to these moguls, its why they view the Jeet as the green line go up miracle despite that mess is a catastrophe waiting to happen as Jeets are infamous for making companies die when you hit poo critical mass.
It affects the quality of the workforce, too.
Why bother learning more specialized knowledge when you know you or your whole department/company could be replaced next quarter?
Why bother developing any sort of relationship with your coworkers when you're perpetually 6 months from losing that job?
Why put in time and effort in your position when you know, (not think, know) you will never be able to reach certain heights because of the social class you were born into?
 
Why bother learning more specialized knowledge when you know you or your whole department/company could be replaced next quarter?
This is why I stopped getting into the nitty-gritty of how the companies I work for actually function; it is not rewarded in any way while the knowledge is pretty much useless outside the company I work for.
Before that I've been told that as a programmer I should learn the specific of the company's business because this way I would be able to design a better solution or be able to address issues more effectively (for example, knowing that something is some business edge case instead of a bug and how to handle that edge case). And it makes sense.
In practice there wasn't a single time when I was recognized for learning all this stuff. When it came to pay raises and promotions knowing the business processes of my company did not differentiate me at all from the rest of the people whom I've worked with, so its not going to protect me from being laid off as well. So I no longer do it, the boss can enjoy having a yet another average and unremarkable employee.
 
For now, they come in support mostly, but I can see how this may divide the need for people by 3 or more in customer service or sales. I have seen AI solutions for customer service for example, which are very close from eliminating the need for the department altogether.

The only thing more complicated than a codebase is a human, and most AIs struggle to deal with them. Besides the fact that AI can barely handle some of the most simple customer service tasks, the flip side is that most humans can't stand dealing with AI. Unless its an X-rated anime chatbot waifu, they aren't going to put up with the lackluster attempts of an AI to mimic human interaction.

It'd be cheaper and more effective to just hire, train and retain human workers to deal with human customers, but most management teams have no idea how to manage humans - or AI.
 
I’m just having a tea break and ironically I’m using an AI augmented system to model out something for a client.
It’s already inflated one number by twenty odd time, for no reason I can see, it just read ‘3’ in the input data and decided I actually meant 75. I’m not sure why. It’s not something I’m happy using, but I am no longer allowed to use the excel model I had before - despite the fact the excel model had its guts on show and I could track back the provenance of every number and see where it came from and what had been done to it. The new system is very pretty, it makes much prettier pictures than the excel, but it’s effectively a black box, and I can’t see under the hood.
Perhaps I’m just an idiot, or a Luddite, but the combo of that and the weird errors makes me a bit unsettled.
And yes! I am responsible for the numbers it spews forth! Isn’t that nice? I am reminded that I must check the working, but when I ask how I can check the working when I can’t open it up, I get angry replies.
You're not a Luddite. You had a perfectly good tool, and some retard replaced it with one of questionable at best value.

I'd update my resume and start job hunting. It's easier to get a new job when you still have one, after all. And if you're being held responsible for results you cannot verify or track, you may be in the crosshairs.
 
update my resume and start job hunting. It's easier to get a new job when you still have one, after all. And if you're being held responsible for results you cannot verify or track, you may be in the crosshairs.
Urgh. A lot of other people have to use it, so it’s less a crosshairs thing and more a useless inability to understand how different levels of the company process things. I have escalated the particulars upwards with my usual laundry list of WHY the thing is a problem and WHAT needs to fix it and HOW but I will as usual be ignored.
It’s a plague in the whole industry just now. What we do is really complex, and we used to do it with a million people and paper and now all the people are too expensive so we are using The Magical Systems but they are mainly crap. Exec level fell for the ai meme without understanding which bits actually work with it and which don’t. All they care about is line go up and shiny presentations.
 
Last week I attended a very hoity-toity, invitation-only event with some people very high up the food chain in very, very high market-cap software companies. We're talking people who are in the c-suite and have Ph.D.s in comp sci from some of the best programs in the entire world.

And all of them said the same thing about LLMs and really anything using the Transformer architecture all LLMs are based on:

LLMs have already hit the wall. There is only small, incremental improvement to be derived from it now. Of course there are use cases where it's plenty useful at this level of functional, but there is no way that it's going to continue getting leaps and bounds better...or even small hops, really.

If AI can't take your job today, it's not going to tomorrow, either. The smartest minds in the room have already started telling the Ph.D. students of tomorrow "don't go into LLM research, it's a trap, look into new architectures and possibilities but don't fall down the Transformer rabbit hole."

It will take the rest of the world some time to catch up and notice, especially since Altman's the best hype man the world's seen since PT Barnum. But it will happen, and all the AI stocks will crater.
 
Last week I attended a very hoity-toity, invitation-only event with some people very high up the food chain in very, very high market-cap software companies. We're talking people who are in the c-suite and have Ph.D.s in comp sci from some of the best programs in the entire world.

And all of them said the same thing about LLMs and really anything using the Transformer architecture all LLMs are based on:

LLMs have already hit the wall. There is only small, incremental improvement to be derived from it now. Of course there are use cases where it's plenty useful at this level of functional, but there is no way that it's going to continue getting leaps and bounds better...or even small hops, really.

If AI can't take your job today, it's not going to tomorrow, either. The smartest minds in the room have already started telling the Ph.D. students of tomorrow "don't go into LLM research, it's a trap, look into new architectures and possibilities but don't fall down the Transformer rabbit hole."

It will take the rest of the world some time to catch up and notice, especially since Altman's the best hype man the world's seen since PT Barnum. But it will happen, and all the AI stocks will crater.
Sell nVidia now?
I'm guessing modeling using advanced data parellization algorithms isn't as sexy as "AI".
 
America yes! We must bring about the AI revolution like orange man said! Get back to work or sit down and shut up. I’m just so glad all the based tech billionaires are on our side now.
 
This is why I stopped getting into the nitty-gritty of how the companies I work for actually function; it is not rewarded in any way while the knowledge is pretty much useless outside the company I work for.
Before that I've been told that as a programmer I should learn the specific of the company's business because this way I would be able to design a better solution or be able to address issues more effectively (for example, knowing that something is some business edge case instead of a bug and how to handle that edge case). And it makes sense.
In practice there wasn't a single time when I was recognized for learning all this stuff. When it came to pay raises and promotions knowing the business processes of my company did not differentiate me at all from the rest of the people whom I've worked with, so its not going to protect me from being laid off as well. So I no longer do it, the boss can enjoy having a yet another average and unremarkable employee.
You aren't alone, and the effect is scaling across the county.
I see a lot of old heads saying things like "The men who know things are retiring and there is no one to replace them!" like it's the young guys' fault. Sure, there's an element of prestige, but this complaint betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of how the world works now. If a young man could become a power plant operator today, and know he had that job for life and be able to afford the things the old man had, as well as a pension, that young man would be willing to literally stab someone to get it.
 
"Apply online via LinkedIN, Indeed."
if you're going to apply somewhere apply through the company website, I am 99% sure there are no real jobs on Indeed. I don't know if it's all just a scam to collect personal information or if these companies get a tax break for having "open positions they're hiring for" but something fucky is going on when 75% of the jobs listed are up for 6+ months with thousands of applicants and never filled or are taken down and reposted every few weeks with no changes to it.

if you apply to jobs on Indeed you might as well just make a sign out of cardboard and panhandle on the side of the street.
 
"The men who know things are retiring and there is no one to replace them!"
There's nobody to replace them, because those men who know things are insufferable boomer twits who still try to play 1980s power games with each other and everyone else around them, and nobody wants to fucking deal with their ghastly attitudes anymore.
 
There's nobody to replace them, because those men who know things are insufferable boomer twits who still try to play 1980s power games with each other and everyone else around them, and nobody wants to fucking deal with their ghastly attitudes anymore.
This is also completely correct. They aren't just unwilling to pay their replacements, they're unwilling to train them or raise them up in any way. They refuse to teach and then act condescending when the younger people don't know things.
 
Lmao, Executives really are the new French nobility, aren't they? They'll really think they're untouchable until they get dragged out of their mansions by their hair and Luigi'd.

I wonder if the United Health CEO thought he was invincible too, right before those bullets ripped through his spine anyway.
The meeting went on without him
 
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