Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[ConSluttant]

this was an absurdly difficult task to complete. it's not 100% perfect because there's many, many little bullshit inconsistencies that I had to manually even out because the first complaint was a scan I had to also OCR.

I figured I'd share in case anyone else sees something particularly interesting.

maybe a paralegal degree would have helped

Sweet Jesus! Look at that swath of RED. I knew it would be insane. I prefer my method of using Excel and putting in the paragraphs to compare them, but that doesn't necessarily work when numbers of paragraphs change. This dingus really thinks he can get away with the "well they already had a MTD on the original complaint! It's just the same stuff all over again!" No it's not. And this proves it DEFINITIVELY. If he gets a re-do, then so does the defendant. That's the way it works. That's fair. But his plights obviously trump everything else. Right? Right?!?!?!???

This just strikes me as a shotgun complaint. There's tons of case law on dismissals of shotgun complaints, though I don't know Ninth Tenth Circuit law. Realleging all the paragraphs in each count, especially as he's done it, is a classic sign.

To me its more a sign of sloppy legal writing rather than a shotgun complaint. Russ is copying other bad lawyers. They re-allege everything, thinking it waves a magic wand and makes everything super duper awesome. No, it rather increases the stupidity of your complaint by an order of magnitude every time you re-allege something. Do they think that by going to the next section, the previous sections all of a sudden fall off a cliff and disappear? I don't know who started this kind of fuckery but they just need to stop it and idiots who plagiarize them need to stop.

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We are Kiwi. Hear us roar!

Give me all the rainbows in the world. But I think he may have gone too far this. He has repeatedly threatened opposing council. Been repeatedly told by the court to knock it off. He has repeatedly refused to provide evidence for his statements, and Been told repeatedly by the court to do so.

But all of that is small compared to the shenanigans with IFP. The court has told him to pay up after he said, TWICE he could pay. Now he's saying he can't pay. But he can apparently pay for all thise hooker and brother bullshit. Even if his case was meritorious, playing games with IFP can end things. Combined with everything else the IFP situation is fatal and the court may jump at the opportunity to shitcan this dumpster fire that way because that means they don't have to deal with anything else.

I know we have all been bemoaning the tard-guarding that has gone on - ooooh, the poor pro-se, he just doesn't know what to do! The court must be gentle. Gentle. Gentle. We are sick unto death of it all.
BUT
I think that Russ has truly, madly, deeply dun fucked himself in the ass with this filing. He has officially stepped beyond the pale and gone into potential sua sponte sanctions. If the court doesn't stop him right now from his insisting on throwing his temper tantrums in the court filings instead of at home into his pillow like a normal person, then the judge will have officially lost control of his own courtroom. The only way to prevent the behavior is to issue the appropriate judicial smack. And for someone like Russ, that's to hit him in his pocketbook. It's beyond time for the court to show Russ who is the real boss here.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

And also free samples.

Is this even a thing? I highly suspect that there would be employer/employee issues with a brothel; in fact, being an owner would probably make it so that Greer's whores were the only whores in the state he LEGALLY couldn't interact with in a penis way.

Even if not illegal, sounds like the easiest discrimination/wrongful employment lawsuit ever.

Russ is copying other bad lawyers. They re-allege everything, thinking it waves a magic wand and makes everything super duper awesome.

Once you realize that the bad lawyers are performing monkeydances for their client you realize how it all works.

Imagine how aroused fatrick got reading his legal document that would accuse the MPD of being racist faggots forever. Same thing with Russ, him reading this doc back (or having siri read it, do you think he uses the australian female voice) would make him all excited, because it affirms everything he wants to hear.

It's not for us, it's not for the courts, it's not even for winning, it's just masturbation in legal prose form.

 

[a hapless toad]

Is this even a thing?

I don't believe so, but I'm sure Russ thinks it happens.

 

[The Un-Clit]

I don't believe so, but I'm sure Russ thinks it happens.

It's a thing, Russhole's idol and inspiration Dennis Hof was (in)famous for fucking his staff, they also had to pass his live technique test to even be hired.

Many small porn producers operate in a similar way, usually the girls 'tryout' with the producer is sold as product as well.

 

[ConSluttant]

So it's NOT under the SPO, it's top-secret communications to the judge directly?

Is the judge allowed to do anything with that? I assume so in a personal case involving the judge and greer, but if it affects Null isn't it being hidden from Null and counsel a problem?

Also, $14/hr in Vegas? Shit. Homo Depot is paying $21.50 to start https://www.indeed.com/l-las-vegas,-nv-jobs.html?vjk=19a22ec5e9464d9e

Yeah, my blue-collar husband who works shit tier jobs in manufacturing (it keeps him happy because he can pay for all his gaming shit and I make more than enough otherwise in my industry) makes nearly $20/hr in a low COL state. If he was doing his same job in Las Vegas, he would probably be making closer to $25/hr. Where in the hell is mush-mouth working?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Where in the hell is mush-mouth working?

He works for some shitty car-sharing app, doesn't he?

Of course, he could also be lying.

 

[Sexy Potoo]

Under seal means that the document is not available to be viewed by anyone other than the court staff.

Wrong

Under seal means the court documents are underneath a court appointed seal, who guards them with his life.


In this scenario, the defense must answer the seal's three riddles or lose the case.

 

[a hapless toad]

It's a thing, Russhole's idol and inspiration Dennis Hof was (in)famous for fucking his staff, they also had to pass his live technique test to even be hired.

Many small porn producers operate in a similar way, usually the girls 'tryout' with the producer is sold as product as well.

Hof was a... special breed. I'm not sure that's SOP in most houses, but all I know about brothels I learned on the internet.

If Russ wasn't so fixated on the GFE he'd have a much easier time becoming a porn producer than owning a brothel.

In this scenario, the defense must answer the seal's three riddles or lose the case.

Or you can hire an Inuit with a harpoon.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

Hoping for at least one more unhinged filing before the weekend.

 

[DuckofDoom]

If the speculation about the judge trying to give the drooling retard enough rope to hang himself with is correct, Rusty's latest filing seems like it alone has enough to do the job several times over.
Honestly, it read like something from a courtroom scene in It's Always Sunny. I've not laughed so hard in a while.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

To me its more a sign of sloppy legal writing rather than a shotgun complaint. Russ is copying other bad lawyers. They re-allege everything, thinking it waves a magic wand and makes everything super duper awesome. No, it rather increases the stupidity of your complaint by an order of magnitude every time you re-allege something. Do they think that by going to the next section, the previous sections all of a sudden fall off a cliff and disappear? I don't know who started this kind of fuckery but they just need to stop it and idiots who plagiarize them need to stop

In my jurisdiction it is quite literally a shotgun complaint because it falls into two enumerated categories of shotgun complaint. First, it’s filled with tons of extraneous material and allegations. Second, it realleges everything repeatedly in its counts. I would have to look at it more closely, but if it doesn’t clearly distinguish in each count which of the defendants is responsible for which alleged conduct then it would fall into a third enumerated category. I’ll look into tenth circuit law but sloppy pleading is not necessarily distinct from a shotgun pleading. I could cite ten published circuit court cases (from outside the tenth circuit, admittedly) saying this is a shotgun complaint that must be dismissed on that ground regardless of whether the intent is malicious or if the pleader is just retarded.

 

[obsdj]

Since Greer has still not paid the sanction, can we get an "ACTION REQUIRED" notification (presumably to the District Judge, since his order was the one that gave Greer the reduced amount, or at least to the Magistrate) indicating that collection or fees are required now? There were a bunch of "ACTION REQUIRED" notices in the case last year.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

@Potentially Criminal if you don't hurry up and make a video on this before a ruling or response appears, you're going to lose your chance to make two videos!

 

[Harvey Danger]

Hoping for at least one more unhinged filing before the weekend.

Greer has promised us sanctions, a protective order, and an appeal of the fee payment ruling. He better deliver.

It's hilarious that he came out of last week's hearing with a lot of work coming due, but he just keeps adding to his plate, voluntarily. He really would rather do anything except prosecute his case.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

@Potentially Criminal if you don't hurry up and make a video on this before a ruling or response appears, you're going to lose your chance to make two videos!

Get in line. He still owes me that Gilman video he promised to make.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Get in line. He still owes me that Gilman video he promised to make.

Get in line. He is still figuring out the answer to the seal's 2nd riddle.
Been a couple days, but since he's only got one chance, I guess you have no choice but to let him be prudent

 

[Swole McPole]

I think it's too early to say that before this court has examined the worth of his share in various real estate companies and brothel startups

He's definitely earning enough that he should be able to pay for his court filings. If he lived in the UK, was earning $14 an hour and was trying to get a divorce, he'd have to pay his court costs. (There's a sliding scale of help if your income is less than about £6,000 a year and you have less than £4500 in savings). In civil litigation like this, the cost of the hearing is determined by the costs being claimed. Up to £15k - £400. £15k - £50k - £800. Increasing to a maximum of £6,600 for lawsuits claiming over £500k.

So, he's asking for $300,000 from null, $300,000 from Lolcow. He'd be on the hook for £6,600 before he could get the ball rolling here in the UK.

 

[cromit]

Really hope we get a bare-bones text docket entry of granting the extension. If it’s with an instruction that Russ can’t file any more nonsense until this motion practice is over, all the better for Hardin not needing to respond to all of it. Even if there’s no direction to “listen here you little shit, knock it the fuck off,” that just means we have the unmitigated pleasure of being able to read Russell’s drool as it drips into this case, three-page rager by three-page rager.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

If the court doesn't stop him right now from his insisting on throwing his temper tantrums in the court filings instead of at home into his pillow like a normal person

No good: he has neither home nor pillow; and even if he did have a pillow, it would be soaked with drool, and who wants to rage into a drool-soaked pillow? No one, that's who.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

In my jurisdiction it is quite literally a shotgun complaint because it falls into two enumerated categories of shotgun complaint. First, it’s filled with tons of extraneous material and allegations. Second, it realleges everything repeatedly in its counts. I would have to look at it more closely, but if it doesn’t clearly distinguish in each count which of the defendants is responsible for which alleged conduct then it would fall into a third enumerated category. I’ll look into tenth circuit law but sloppy pleading is not necessarily distinct from a shotgun pleading. I could cite ten published circuit court cases (from outside the tenth circuit, admittedly) saying this is a shotgun complaint that must be dismissed on that ground regardless of whether the intent is malicious or if the pleader is just retarded.

For the Tenth Circuit, some relevant authorities:
Mann v. Boatright, 477 F.3d 1140, 1147-48 (10th Cir. 2007)

Knox v. First Sec. Bank of Utah, 196 F.2d 112, 117-18 (10th Cir. 1952)

Nasious v. Two Unknown B.I.C.E. Agents, 492 F.3d 1158, 1162-63 (10th Cir. 2007)

Hall v. Bellmon, 935 F.2d 1106, 1110 (10th Cir. 1991)

Glenn v. First Nat. Bank in Grand Junction, 868 F.2d 368, 371-72 (10th Cir. 1989)

5 Charles A. Wright & Arthur R. Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure § 1281 (4th ed. 2025)

There isn’t as strong language as I am used to, but there is precedent on the complaint being bad. There’s an argument for dismissal there, but it’s up to Hardin if he thinks it’s worth pursuing.