Mega Rad Gun Thread

[WhoBusTank69]

What's the difference between the various makes of Desert Eagle? I don't mean the ridiculous amount of rebranded CZ75s or whatever, but between IMI, IWI, and Magnum Research (or are there more?) what differences are there, and which is the best?

Magnum Research was bought by Kahr back in 2010 and quality control was never really the same. I heard IWI, just before Magnum Research took over production, had a lot of lemons as well, but that's hearsay on a novelty gun.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Does anyone have a parkerized handgun they carry occasionally? Do you just use leather holsters? Has kydex or Safariland materials caused any wear on the finish? I was thinking Safarilands material would be less abrasive than kydex but more than leather. I haven't ever used a leather holster but I'm considering it for this one.

 

[Lead Lizard]

Silencer Central may have gotten caught doing a little regulatory capture.

Just as a followup on this, it seems like they probably weren't working to undermine the HPA.

https://x.com/DomPhamTX/status/1923120236603031752

I think some people saw the vague wording of the filings and flipped out.

 

[Internorth Inc]

What's the difference between the various makes of Desert Eagle? I don't mean the ridiculous amount of rebranded CZ75s or whatever, but between IMI, IWI, and Magnum Research (or are there more?) what differences are there, and which is the best?

I noticed that newer models seem to accumulate more and more picatinny rails, but I wouldn't dare assume the variances stop there.

IMI was an Israeli goverment ran corporation that manufactured everyone's favorite Hebrew Hammers (Uzi, Jericho, Galil etc.) plus other military equipment (MANPADs, tank guns, ERA), IMI was contracted by Magnum Research to make the Deagles back in the 80s (apparently these are the highest quality too). In the early 2000s the small arms division was spun off into a private corporation ran buy some investment firm who continued to manufacture firearms (at a lower quality according to forum posts I've seen) including the Deagle. Then Magnum Research got bought out buy Khar, who moved manufacturing in house, and quality dropped again.
Edit: Ninja'd

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Just as a followup on this, it seems like they probably weren't working to undermine the HPA.

https://x.com/DomPhamTX/status/1923120236603031752

I think some people saw the vague wording of the filings and flipped out.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

@Falcos_Commisar @Polock

Awesome! Let me know if you guys liked them, the second book was my personal favorite. It went to some dark places.

Thread tax:
Anyone carry a Glock 48? I'm interested in getting a slimline Glock for the summer months where I live. Does it conceal pretty well? Does it shoot like a slightly snappy 19?

It’s gonna shoot worse. I don’t like understand why hot weather would make a difference. It’s hot all the time where I live and concealing a 19 or even 17 sized gun is a non issue.

 

[Deckard Bane]

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It does feel a little weird with the wording of their statement combined with their refusal to jump on the “No Compromise” list that Silencer Shop is on. It’s not beyond reason to be suspicious - 922(r) compliance exists due to lobbying by US manufacturers, and faggots like FFT make bank off of compliance.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

It does feel a little weird with the wording of their statement combined with their refusal to jump on the “No Compromise” list that Silencer Shop is on. It’s not beyond reason to be suspicious - 922(r) compliance exists due to lobbying by US manufacturers, and faggots like FFT make bank off of compliance.

You can just disregard 922r as an end user. Who is gonna check your gun and be able to prove the amount of US parts it contains, unless you are retarded and incriminate yourself.

 

[Taser Confetti]

Does anyone have a parkerized handgun they carry occasionally? Do you just use leather holsters? Has kydex or Safariland materials caused any wear on the finish? I was thinking Safarilands material would be less abrasive than kydex but more than leather. I haven't ever used a leather holster but I'm considering it for this one.

I have one of the Springfield Range Officer Operators from when they were still parkerized. Honestly it's been in a Safariland probably twice it's entire life. When I have carried it she stayed inside a Milt Sparks elephant hide. These days she mostly rocks an X300U and sits comfy on the nightstand. Give it a healthy dose of CorrosionX periodically and don't worry about it. If it's in a duty holster it's a working gun and not a range queen and should be treated as such.

 

[gildersleeve]

Had a fun day out with my handgonne. I get 9 inch groups with it at 10 yards but that's firing from the hip. If I could properly aim with both hands and have a friend light it off then I'd probably get it to reach further out.

Been wanting to build one of these for a while. I go muzzleloader hunting with a flintlock, And it's been a dream of mine to bag a deer with a handgonne. I'd like to make it a comically large bore. golf ball sized preferably. Pretty cool!

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

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all this hot air on a cold dick while i'm still waiting for my chance to buy a silencer without a fucking stamp

 

[888Flux]

My "compromise" with the NFA shit is to just treat suppressors as firearms and when you're buying through a dealer you fill out a 4473.

I doubt we'll even get the $200 to $0 from the reconciliation amended. The re-introduction of the Hearing Protection Act is entirely symbolic. Unless it's done somehow through EO it will never happen.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Anyone carry a Glock 48?

i outfitted a local federal CID with Glock 48's and Glock 43X and within 6 months i got the 48's returned because the longer barrel has no real benefit for carry other than jabbing you in the appendix/thigh when sitting and slowing holster clear times if you're a high speed desk warrior in the dangerous world of white collar criminal investigations.

What's the difference between the various makes of Desert Eagle? I don't mean the ridiculous amount of rebranded CZ75s or whatever, but between IMI, IWI, and Magnum Research (or are there more?) what differences are there, and which is the best?

I noticed that newer models seem to accumulate more and more picatinny rails, but I wouldn't dare assume the variances stop there.

the mark XIX is arguably the best desert eagle version, however earlier marks (versions) were similar to other magnum revolver cartridge pistols like the LAR Grizzly: they were frame size variations built for specific cartridges that varied in OAL, chamber pressure, magazine geometry, et c to the point where the frames and slide could not interchange easily. eventually the mark VII was a version that could be used with variable slides because of widening the pistols and new feed ramp and recoil assembly designs and the mark XIX is based on the VII.

note that there aren't any mark II, III, IV, V, VI, et c entire pistols - these were variations on the mark I with different barrels/chamberings. a mark II is a mark I with a 3/8 dovetail and fully adjustable sights. mark III's were the same with an extended 10" barrel, et c. the mark VII was only available in .44 and .50 AE and had a widened frame to account for that.

desert eagles made by Kahr are pretty bad as an actual shooter if they're in anything but .357 magnum or reasonably stout .44 magnum and even then they aren't great. early mark XIX's are good and can be noted by retaining the weaver rail on the barrel combined with the improved "hook" style safety and mark VII frame with the 2-step slide release. most desert eagles are unforgiving of poor shooting stance since it doesn't use a controlled feed and the long cartridge requires stability through the entire (rather slow) firing cycle.

i used to shoot steel challenge with a .44 desert eagle (to replace my pre-model 29) and was dissatisfied and eventually swapped to a Coonan and then a LAR Grizzly mark I which i still use. i still keep the DE around as a fun shooter and since it's pretty low recoil, as a "long distance" gong bonger when wanting to shoot steel and be lazy about it.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

My Deagle is a Mark XIX IMI one of the later years before the IWI switch the slide said only .50AE but in a different font they added .44mag cause of frame compatibility. Only issues I've had were with picky ammo you buy cheap you get cheap so I stick with Hornady and also magazine spring wear fucker used to be dubbed sir-jamalot because of failure to feed on the last round nothing some extra power magazine springs couldn't resolve.

 

[Deckard Bane]

desert eagles made by Kahr are pretty bad as an actual shooter if they're in anything but .357 magnum or reasonably stout .44 magnum and even then they aren't great. early mark XIX's are good and can be noted by retaining the weaver rail on the barrel combined with the improved "hook" style safety and mark VII frame with the 2-step slide release. most desert eagles are unforgiving of poor shooting stance since it doesn't use a controlled feed and the long cartridge requires stability through the entire (rather slow) firing cycle.

I've considered maybe picking up a Desert Eagle in the next year, but I had heard that the .50 AE was the better option to go for, given that the .357 and .44 are designed for revolvers and the charge is less consistent between rounds since they don't need to cycle in what they were designed for. I don't know the validity of it though. I would prefer to get a VII since I don't care for the rails on the modern models. Prefer the classic design I grew up with in movies and games.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

I've considered maybe picking up a Desert Eagle in the next year, but I had heard that the .50 AE was the better option to go for, given that the .357 and .44 are designed for revolvers and the charge is less consistent between rounds since they don't need to cycle in what they were designed for. I don't know the validity of it though. I would prefer to get a VII since I don't care for the rails on the modern models. Prefer the classic design I grew up with in movies and games.

The early XIX's don't have an under rail that's what I have it's only the magnum research models that they started to add it and if you get a VII in 50 then you can't change out the barrel to a 44 at least I don't think you can without also getting a new bolt assembly which combine with the barrel is the cost of a new glock alone.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Does anyone have a parkerized handgun they carry occasionally? Do you just use leather holsters? Has kydex or Safariland materials caused any wear on the finish? I was thinking Safarilands material would be less abrasive than kydex but more than leather. I haven't ever used a leather holster but I'm considering it for this one.

I've got a argentine surplus Ballester-molina 1911 derivative that i carry fairly often. its been parkerized and i've not noticed a problem with rust or wear. I carry with a GI 1936 web belt and UM84 holster. its not as pretty as blueing or a good polished stainless or nickle but it just werks.

 

[BikeLock]

Magnum Research was bought by Kahr back in 2010 and quality control was never really the same. I heard IWI, just before Magnum Research took over production, had a lot of lemons as well, but that's hearsay on a novelty gun.

Desert Eagle actually runs like a normal pistol challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

They've always been notorious for being finnicky, because its a meme gun and nobody really minds. I wouldn't do anything more serious than Hunting with one, as I would trust .44 mag or 50 AE to easily take a Deer, but I wouldn't trust the gun to run more than a magazine through it without fucking up.

 

[gildersleeve]

but I had heard that the .50 AE was the better option to go for, given that the .357 and .44 are designed for revolvers and the charge is less consistent between rounds since they don't need to cycle in what they were designed for.

You'd need to load your own rounds to make sure it cycles consistently. I've wondered about this too though. I think 180gn w 12gn charge would be a starting point and work down from there..

 

[Legato]

I've considered maybe picking up a Desert Eagle in the next year, but I had heard that the .50 AE was the better option to go for, given that the .357 and .44 are designed for revolvers and the charge is less consistent between rounds since they don't need to cycle in what they were designed for. I don't know the validity of it though. I would prefer to get a VII since I don't care for the rails on the modern models. Prefer the classic design I grew up with in movies and games.

That sounds like fudd lore. I have an older eagle how do I tell what version it is. Its an old IMI made in Israel. Pretty sure its a mark VII.
They sure do look cool though


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