Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Gorton Colu]

You want to take my Latin? Judge! Take his Latin away! It's only fair.

There should be more Latin. In fact, Hardin should end all of his motions with the following:

Ceterum autem, censeo Russell esse deridendum.

 

[Harvey Danger]

This might be the only time in a legal career the "I'm rubber you're glue" defense is appropriate, and may actually work.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a docket with this much activity from all parties but with so few dispositive orders from the judge. Is it really so much better to let this situation continue than to get both parties on the phone and tell them to shut up until Greer pays his fees and gets the documents to Hardin (or doesn’t do those things)? That would take five minutes and be entirely appropriate. I can’t say I like these judges very much when they are the reason this is allowed to continue.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I'm a little surprised he didn't take the Stebbins v Moon approach. "Both of you shut the fuck up until I rule." and then fucked off for several months before returning with a banger eviscerating Stebbins.

He tried, but he didn't go full retard (wrangling). He gave Russ a month to file the needful and pay his bills, and he gave Hardin the month off until it all went through. However he didn't immediately slap sanctions or entertain the dismissal. So Russ filed three profoundly stupid motions in a row.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a docket with this much activity from all parties but with so few dispositive orders from the judge.

You get the docket you deserve.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a docket with this much activity from all parties but with so few dispositive orders from the judge. Is it really so much better to let this situation continue than to get both parties on the phone and tell them to shut up until Greer pays his fees and gets the documents to Hardin (or doesn’t do those things)? That would take five minutes and be entirely appropriate. I can’t say I like these judges very much when they are the reason this is allowed to continue.

It's any case involving a Pro Se IFP retard. Go look at the Melinda shit that introduced Hardin to lolcows. Look at any Acerthorne case.

Any case that involves a Pro Se IFP Plaintiff complaining about shit said on the internet should be immediately tossed.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Under Nevada State Statute it's 100% ILLEGAL for him to turn that property into a Brothel as the ENTIRE HOTEL PROPERTY IS WITHIN 400 YARDS OF NOT ONE, BUT TWO CHURCHES

Was this grandfathered in? Im curious to know the timeline of events for this. Makes sense why no other 'enterprising entrepreneur and respecter of women' set up shop there. Russ this is business planning 101.

Bro lied and showed contempt of court only to find his brothel scheme is cooked from the start. I wonder if he will start petitioning the churches and govt or just move on.

 

[ConSluttant]

I can't imagine the Judge is happy about how much deeper the docket has grown After he agreed to a Stay pending service to the new victims/motion to dismiss.

Yeah, I think this round of sperging is really going to piss the judge off. Like, a lot.

I think the judge has been getting irritated with Hardin making his little notices. He may realize they are necessary for a complete record, but it's irritating him. I know I would be irritated if one of my dockets kept getting larger and larger with crap I will eventually have to deal with. However Russ blowing up like he has been is probably rolling the rock right over the edge for the Judge. You just don't skip procedure and demand sanctions NOW NOW NOW because your fee fees are hurt because things you wanted hidden are being dug up.

Until Russ realizes that you can't lie to a court and not expect to get called on your shit if it can be proven, he's gonna keep having Hardin chipping away at his credibility. You cannot just "spin" a fact in your direction in court pleadings and not expect the opposition to counter it in pleadings - and if they can PROVE that you LIED its gonna be really bad for you. Russ needs to take a page from the Laura Owens case. She just got charged with SEVEN felonies for her lies in the Clayton Echard paternity scandal. Russ may not have done anything criminal (yet) in this case, but trying to perpetuate a fraud upon the court? That's a possibility.

 

[obsdj]

I think the judge has been getting irritated with Hardin making his little notices.

I agree, though of course that's not a popular opinion to express here. The lion's share of the forty-some motions that have been added just in the last two months since the motion hearing was scheduled did not come from Greer. And Hardin's filing today in which he practically dares the judge to go ahead and order him to show cause was a little too much bravado, I think, but who knows. The Magistrate has shown considerable restraint and probably will continue to do so. He doesn't want to get overruled again, having already had his authority eroded by the 10th Circuit and by Judge Barlow on the issue of sanctions. Maybe his dick is just broken.

As always, of course, it's the judge's own fault, etc. etc. and Greer is the one who keeps flouting the rules of the court, and so on.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Everything in this paragraph is gold

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That's Ron Toye talk. I'm fixed I tell you!

 

[ConSluttant]

I agree, though of course that's not a popular opinion to express here. The lion's share of the forty-some motions that have been added just in the last two months since the motion hearing was scheduled did not come from Greer. And Hardin's filing today in which he practically dares the judge to go ahead and order him to show cause was a little too much bravado, I think, but who knows. The Magistrate has shown considerable restraint and probably will continue to do so. He doesn't want to get overruled again, having already had his authority eroded by the 10th Circuit and by Judge Barlow on the issue of sanctions. Maybe his dick is just broken.

As always, of course, it's the judge's own fault, etc. etc. and Greer is the one who keeps flouting the rules of the court, and so on.

But he didn't make only motions. He was doing mostly supplemental filings to put information into the record. There were a handful of motions, true. But all the little docket pings of supplemental filings are adding up into an avalanche. Woe betide the one who fails to get out of the way when it all comes down.

 

[The Un-Clit]

There should be more Latin. In fact, Hardin should end all of his motions with the following:

Ceterum autem, censeo Russell esse deridendum.

"Greer est delenda" maybe?

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

It's any case involving a Pro Se IFP retard. Go look at the Melinda shit that introduced Hardin to lolcows. Look at any Acerthorne case.

Any case that involves a Pro Se IFP Plaintiff complaining about shit said on the internet should be immediately tossed.

I’ve reviewed multiple IFP pro se dockets before and didn’t see anything approaching this. Maybe it’s the Internet part that makes the difference. Like they view the court docket as just another forum for them to shit all over.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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This might be the only time in a legal career the "I'm rubber you're glue" defense is appropriate, and may actually work.

The court needs to be reminded that just because Greer is Pro Se does not mean he doesn't have to follow decorum. If you accuse opposing counsel of unethical or illegal behavior you had better damn well be able to prove it. This isn't like in High School where Greer could run to teacher and complain about the meanie poopie heads.

Obnoxiously Greer has done this repeatedly, and it's going to bite him in the ass now.

 

[Gorton Colu]

"Greer est delenda" maybe?

Close. It's inspired by Cato's frequent call for the destruction of Carthage.

Instead of being destroyed, Russell must be ridiculed.

 

[SCV]

I think this explains his May 14th creation of a different LLC, with Huber added to it.

Previously, Hardin said Greer controlled an LLC where he was the sole member, and that LLC was seeking to buy real estate. That suggests Greer had the money to pay for real estate and therefore also court costs. Hardin could add this license fee to the amount the LLC expects to pay up front, even if it doesn't yet have the $100k on hand for real estate. It would be very hard for Greer to argue he doesn't have that money, without allowing the Court and Hardin to examine the finances of his LLC, and potentially sink his brothel schemes.

But now, his LLC has another member on it! Greer can pretend that Huber is the money guy who can pay for all sorts of fees, real estate, and business deals, while Greer himself is just the poor IFP pro se plaintiff. If Hardin presses the LLC issue, Greer can protest that Huber's privacy is being violated; surely the Court would just let him off the hook rather than persecute a neutral 3rd party business partner. He can have his cake, and whore it out too!

I think you are giving russ far too much credit here. He is a monkey-see-monkey-do retard who could not answer how he would feel if he did not eat breakfast this morning. We've seen again and again that he exists only in the present and just says whatever he thinks sounds good at the time.

He is not planning grand harebrained schemes like some disabled wile e. coyote. He's just a moron.

ETA:

I'm doubling down on my theory that Greer has not yet told Scott Shady or Huber that he's trying to involve them in brothel business.

I think you're 100% on the money with this.

My own theory (obviously without any direct evidence) is Rusty contacted Huber about real estate, and was told something along the lines of "Sure, I'd be happy to help". You know, some basic pleasantry that any real estate broker would say if you contacted them out of the blue. Ol' gimpface probably interpreted this as Huber agreeing to join his LLC, and then listed him as a member.

You're wrong about this. As @obsdj notes he is literally CCing them about "adult entertainment zoning".

It's not a scheme. Sometimes a sped is just a sped.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I agree, though of course that's not a popular opinion to express here. The lion's share of the forty-some motions that have been added just in the last two months since the motion hearing was scheduled did not come from Greer. And Hardin's filing today in which he practically dares the judge to go ahead and order him to show cause was a little too much bravado, I think, but who knows. The Magistrate has shown considerable restraint and probably will continue to do so. He doesn't want to get overruled again, having already had his authority eroded by the 10th Circuit and by Judge Barlow on the issue of sanctions. Maybe his dick is just broken.

As always, of course, it's the judge's own fault, etc. etc. and Greer is the one who keeps flouting the rules of the court, and so on.

I agree that the Judge is probably getting annoyed with Hardin's stream of filings. But given the amount of grossly prejudicial tard guarding he has been doing all along, it is very hard for him to do anything about it. Not without (further) violating Nulls rights.

Shitlips however? His filings are completely insane. Would anybody want to role the dice on getting the same 2 out of 3 10th Circuit idiots as last time? The question of just how much defference should be permitted of a Pro Se IFP retard is something juicy enough for appeals debate. If not SCOTUS. Especially when said defference is repeatedly ignoring or handwaving away statutory requirements in a way that both prejudices the defense. And costs the Defensant tens of thousands of dollars.

 

[SCV]

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I'm sure he would say that when the original case was filed there were other harassment claims but after the amended complaint is this just admitting the case is in bad faith?

 

[Shakespeare]

I'm doubling down on my theory that Greer has not yet told Scott Shady or Huber that he's trying to involve them in brothel business. In fact, I wonder if listing Huber as W.H. on the LLC was to prevent Huber himself from finding out he's on the LLC, not Hardin or KF.

This may all sound like a retarded, illegal scheme, but really it's just Russtarded.

I'm sure that they are vaguely aware of Russell's intention, at least Huber as he is CC'd in those emails. However I'm willing to bet money on the fact that neither of them is any real way involved in his plan. If they're involved then there's no chance in hell they would have Russell be the sole face of the brothel.

For all of the good qualities Russell has, I don't see any value he could bring as representative of the business. Why would anybody let him be the only impression that people would have of their brothel?

 

[3MMA]

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ShitLips has lost the plot so hard that it’s likely he never even grasped the plot to begin with, the thing is that this is his own damn plot. It’s truly difficult to believe someone is this ridiculously self-entitled.

 

[CEO of Gay]

Everything in this paragraph is gold

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Greer's still trying to blame his past misdeeds on his disability instead of taking responsibility for them, I see. Contrast other people who also suffer facial paralysis, depression, anxiety, or any mixture of those three. If you took such a person who was trying to make something positive out of their life instead of letting their disabilities define them and showed them Greer, they would hold Greer in contempt.

Just as this court should do.

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plaintiff!s is a new one I think. This entire paragraph is a mess.

"Plaintiff!s [sic] attorney"? I know Greer thinks that Hardin's job is supposed to be helping Greer get what he wants, but damn. This is probably just a copy & paste typo, but now that Greer is facing a vigorous defense, one detailing all of the reasons why Greer sucks and his case is bullshit, I'll bet Greer feels like he's the defendant now, and Matthew "Hardship" Hardin is the plaintiff.

IF HE CAN JUST EXPLAIN!!!

He can learn Mandarin and explain it to the CCP. I'm sure they're very interested.