hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

Whenever I hear shit like “mommy/daddy called me a loser, now I’m scarred for life, boo hoo”, it’s pretty much never as bad as the teller tries to make it sound. Most of the time it’s them getting a dose of harsh criticism for being, well, a loser like millions of kids around the globe and having a mental breakdown as a result.

Also most women like being dominated in bed, stop the fucking presses. Congratulations on saying something that every guy above the age of 18 knows. Then again, Hoey’s target audience might genuinely be shocked by that.
 
How can he not consider himself still a weakling? He draws with crayons for an audience of manchildren. It's not exactly the most traditionally attractive or masculine type of occupation.
You're not wrong. There's strength of character, but this really isn't it as he has talked about attention and monetary incentives. He likely sees himself as a big valid dad role model now that many people have stroked his ego, therefore he is strong.


YT Link, Self-Maximize 5: Swordpilled, May 16th, 2025, 43m23s

Here's a short clip from his most recent "Bad Boys are not Assholes" video demonstrating an anecdote where he acted strong & his girl loved it. It's a vague anecdote about him telling off a homeless guy who was being lewd to his girl at an outdoor cafe.

hoe_math had another example of him being assertive that made even less sense by when he told a left-wing canvasser on the street that he didn't agree with a cause being pushed then walked away, then he looked back to the canvasser pointing him out to a fellow leftie. Then everybody clapped.


YT Link, Self-Maximize 5: Swordpilled, May 16th, 2025, 42m55s



YT Link, Self-Maximize 5: Swordpilled, May 16th, 2025, 41m15s

He also directly talks about Jordan Peterson suggesting that the biblical "The meek shall inherit the earth" is a modern day poor translation, where meek shouldn't equal weak, but instead somehow equates to "hero".

hoe_math reads Proverbs 24: 1-5 in the clip
Proverbs 24:1–5

[1] Be not envious of evil men,
nor desire to be with them,
[2] for their hearts devise violence,
and their lips talk of trouble.


[3] By wisdom a house is built,
and by understanding it is established;
[4] by knowledge the rooms are filled
with all precious and pleasant riches.
[5] A wise man is full of strength,
and a man of knowledge enhances his might,
 
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Oh, he's acting like the daddy that he never had. It would be touching it wasn't so funny. Hoe is trying to compensate for his absentee father by educating his audience of incels with crayon drawings.
A pattern that I NOOTiced about manosphere content creators or those that associate with them in one way or another that is that despite their infinitive glazing of fatherhood and saying how it's way more important than motherhood (which is very ironic given how they constantly yap how motherhood is the best optimal role for women) in terms of shaping a child is that none of the men who say this had good fathers at all, in fact most of them had absentee/neglectful fathers "at best" or extremely abusive fathers at worst with their mothers usually being the backbones of caring for and raising them.

Andrew Tate had an abusive and alcoholic glowie father who constantly cheated on his mom until his mom decided enough was enough and divorced him.

Although not a manosphere creator I still think his example still counts, Elon Musk also had an abusive father that physically and mentally abused him,
his siblings and their mother until his mother Maye put a stop to it by also getting a divorce.

Hoe_math had a very absent/emotionally distant father that wasn't really too much interested in spending time with him, learning him skills fathers teach their sons
or being invested in his child's life.

But what is interesting about all these 3 cases is that even if of them acknowledge their fathers' terrible behaviors, most of them STILL sweep up
after them while having this resentment towards their own mothers and blaming them for things going wrong.

Andrew Tate to this day still lists his own father as a role model and inspiration, while clearly resenting his mother for divorcing his dad
because she didn't perform her "wifely duties" of letting his father abuse and cheat on her.

Elon Musk still to this day is chasing validation and praise from his abusive father who calls him a fat retard and actively likes to remind
him that he prefers his brother over him, while Elon doesn't give too much of thought about his mother praising him because he associates
her divorcing his dad with "rough times" and "living in poor conditions" despite still being well-off even after his parents' divorce.

hoe_math blames his own mother for "longhousing" him and his dad which somehow prevented his own dad from being part of his life and unironically
believes that if his mom didn't "longhouse" them both that his dad would be part of his life, because he can't genuinely seem to comprehend the possibility that maybe his father
wasn't really interested in participating in his childhood and raising him and that there are men who are only interested in wearing the title of a father but not being one.

None of these men despite claiming they were hurt by their own dads never ever condemn their own fathers or call out their actions. Perhaps the reason why despite him constantly yapping about how women's "true" purpose is to be subservient to men and bear their children because that's the best optimal role for them, he himself doesn't want children is because he's subconsciously anxious about the idea of being an absentee dad himself since he never ever had the opportunity to know how a relationship between a child and a father functions which if that's the case I'd usually say good for him for knowing what he wants and knowing his limits but given that he is advocating for pressuring of women being forced into motherhood and being subservient to men, a role that not all women are or think they're suited for it comes off as hypocritical.

In fact, you can even say that despite him eternally seething about black savage hoodrats that his view of fatherhood is no different than theirs given
his talk how he would justifies men cheating on their wives and impregnating women they aren't married as "sneaking an extra womb" and being about
"spreading your seed as much as possible", a sentient that is often echoed in most peak hoodrat spheres.
 
Does anyone have any speculation as to why this is? It's such an odd phenomenon.
Everyone craves parental love. Condemning your father's absenteeism is essentially acceptance that you will never experience that kind of love. It may also require the admission that the entire fault does not lie with the mother and the paternal figure that you idolize is actually a bad person. In turn, that might invite reflection on your own attitudes towards masculinity which can be painful.

It's easier to call all women whores.
 
But what is interesting about all these 3 cases is that even if of them acknowledge their fathers' terrible behaviors, most of them STILL sweep up
after them while having this resentment towards their own mothers and blaming them for things going wrong.
Dad did bad things cause bad things were done to dad. Mom did bad things cause she's a bad person. It's a very common trope and I think it either stems from women pretending/telling everyone else they're "pro-people" and "selfless angels" when horrible men (who did their best to feed their family) were away all day!!!

A man can fail in many ways; career, status, clothing, fitness. Women can fail at everything and fall back on being a mother, getting one of many health sector jobs to up their appeal to actual made men. Nurse? Dogshit pay? Bad at your job? But you're the NURSE WIFE of a CEO, baby!
Whenever I hear shit like “mommy/daddy called me a loser, now I’m scarred for life, boo hoo”, it’s pretty much never as bad as the teller tries to make it sound. Most of the time it’s them getting a dose of harsh criticism for being, well, a loser like millions of kids around the globe and having a mental breakdown as a result.
You got mf'ers like T Soprano going through legitimate trauma as a kid and brushing it off, then you got Roxanna the 21 yr old troon who is a dogshit human being with a justified 'evil' mother who 'traumatized' xe/xym by uhh, saying "maybe don't chop your dick off?", and Ms Troon can write off all negativity in life in one of two ways: 'I didn't have tits so of course I was sad' or 'my mother gave me ptsd'.
 
A juxtaposition between two responses to two famous men's announcements that they are dying of terminal metastatic prostate cancer this week.

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Hi, Scott. I'm just learning the news at this moment.

When I was a kid, I used to look at the comics page, and Dilbert was one of the four comics I would read. When I was very young, I used to ask my father to explain it, and he would tell me that you were smart and that the work world was stupid. The situations that you illustrated helped prepare me for real life (even if it barely happened to me for the same reasons that you had limitations in your career).

I later read "Win Bigly" and integrated it into my worldview. It became a part of the skill set that I use in what I do today.

It was a high point to be followed by you and recognized. I think you said at one point that my account was changing the world. That praise is multiplied by the gravity of your accomplishments.

Life will be what life will be. We all wish you the best.

From early in the thread, Scott Adams' Win Bigly is on the Top 3 reading list that hoe_math recommends to his fans.
 
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Men of woe aka wömen are allegedly choosing having sex people that aren't him and men like him which is apparently going to lead to us retvrning
to hunter-gatherer society. But I thought retvrning to trad was the intention, what happened haggot_math bros???

Except we are seeing the results of countries that run like hoe_math think it's ideal such as Afghanistan, other middle eastern countries and India where female sexuality and autonomy is repressed and it's not really good! Lots of news of men from those places sticking their dicks in animals and children while blaming sexual repression and many of brown men that he hates trying to come to Europe or USA despite their countries being ran to elevate and benefit men there the most aka the ideal structure most of men such as hoe_math think countries should be, but of course they will resort to coping how wigger shariah is based because there's something more sophisticated and culturally superior about when white people act like dune coons that stick their dicks into cattle and children, I suppose.

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>Takes part in activity and hookup culture he allegedly hates and wants dead
>"HOW COULD WÖMEN DO THIS"
 
I thought “meek” in the Bible was supposed to refer to being humble and not aggressively rushing into action.
The word "meek" in one place is used as a translation for the literal words "tamed warhorse" and in another place for "people who keep their swords in their sheaths." It's a mistranslation, but this retard's translation is worse than "meek." I supposed hoe_math has never heard of keeping his sword in its sheath, and he is only a "reformed" philanderer because he can't find anyone who wants to be stuck.
 
"The 5-10% hottest guys"

Any time I hear a man saying "Women only date X types of guys!". I would LOVE to know the type of man they consider to be in that 5-10% because I'm willing to bet they not only look good but they also have good jobs and can take care of themselves and their partners properly.
 
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It's like AI sexbot marketing inception.

An AI marketing company employs an AI bot to cold email matches between potential influencers & sponsors, hawking an AI fan fic writing vibrator where the AI marketing manager then takes an 8% rake on your ad revenue cheque.
 
Hoe_math has decided to reinvent the "LGBT+ rights or financial stability" discourse but for whiny mid men like him where they ask women the question of "Favorite kind of sex or financial stability"
through his r/vent post.
With all sincerity, where is this guy talking to women? Is this the result of a manic episode after watching one too many "interview big city women to use the 10% of them to make outrage bait for men"?

While there are a lot more steps to hunter-gatherer society collapse, I'm more baffled he has found so many women cucking their partners so often that a lower class of 90% beta males who never have good sex with their partners and always financially pay for her and her children with Chaddington Chadsley exist. What kind of friend group does he have where this is the standard?
 
With all sincerity, where is this guy talking to women?
What kind of friend group does he have where this is the standard?

I stopped going through the old archives of his content because the thread was too slow. I stopped somewhere back in Jan 2024.

That being said
- on his last public livestream he did talk about how his DMs are still full of rando female fans offering to do unspeakable things
- he talked about not taking up any of them on their offers because he's given up & is too lazy to leave his house and fly for hours to get to know them
- I don't get the sense he's living close to any family or friend supports. He mainly toils away doodling & occasionally goes outside alone in nature
- I believe he mentioned on his last livestream that he went on dates with two other IRL during his vanlife arc last fall. I got the sense that they were IRL encounters during his travels and not e-fans, but aren't 100% sure.
- he did imply last year during his couchsurfing that he did stay over at some platonic female friends
- there was a snapshot from the same timeframe I posted over in the Lawtube thread of him teaching a female friend at the range how to shoot a pistol
- as I've noted a few times, he spent both Christmas Day '23 & '24 in his apartment streaming alone, suggesting no close family ties
- Rich Zoomer Musician Girl that moved in with him for a month or so in Spring 2024 is really the only real proof we have of any females in his life. He was much more critical of her in his last livestream than I 've ever heard him before. He used to talk about how their parting was mutual, that she was used to wealth & he wasn't there yet with his new YT monies. But recently he started talking shit about her, how her parents kept her locked up like Rapunzel, how she was a prototypical immature Zoomer without direction & who can't make decisions independently, etc.
- The main "one that got away" was that tall, thicc thighs Renaissance Faire dress girl who came upstairs within hours of meeting him to fool around then promptly disgusted him by informing him after the act that she had a bf. He still wistfully talks about the spark they had together and how that was his "Best Date Evuh"
 
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he did imply last year during his couchsurfing that he did stay over at some platonic female friends
It must be weird to have a friend who has a youtube and twitter talking shit about you for existing as something you didn't choose to be born as. :(

He was much more critical of her in his last livestream than I 've ever heard him before.
I wonder if something changed or if he just had an episode.

The main "one that got away" was that tall, thicc thighs Renaissance Faire dress girl who came upstairs within hours of meeting him to fool around then promptly disgusted him by informing him after the act that she had a bf. He still wistfully talks about the spark they had together and how that was his "Best Date Evuh"
Whatever he made/makes her out to be in his head must not live up to reality in any way. Sad.

He really commits to choosing women who get his dick hard rather than those who seem like they want to settle down. It might be easy to chalk it up to opportunity with jobs and such, but he wasn't really helping himself with his slutty years and his current only go outside for nature like the UniBomber strategy. And then he backhand brags of "Oh I contributed to the women only going after the top 10% of guys ;) " when taking any accountability for his own actions. He's still startlingly stunted emotionally, it's sad he can't see it and change himself for the better.

When BAP tells you to take your meds, it's over.
 
With all sincerity, where is this guy talking to women? Is this the result of a manic episode after watching one too many "interview big city women to use the 10% of them to make outrage bait for men"?
It's the easiest grift to make money off of this side of "entertainment bad because WOKE". But I guess it's easier to Blackpill and wallow in your own misery than actually talk to someone not on a dating site and not a city girl (or city boy for the women).
 
Cow crossover.
When BAP tells you to take your meds, it's over.

BAP's "Meds" reply is pretty cryptic.

I wasn't sure if Costin was implying that hoe_math needed meds or whether birth control/SSRIs have compromised women's natural evolutionary mate selection principles.

I read the comments beneath BAP's tweet and his followers seemed confused as well.

Given BAP is one of those greek statue/bodybuilder/sunning your b-hole types, I can certainly see him kneejerkingly taking offense to anyone suggesting that women aren't hardwired to select for good genotype Adonises.

But I guess it's easier to Blackpill and wallow in your own misery than actually talk to someone not on a dating site and not a city girl (or city boy for the women).

It's interesting because during hoe_math's endless (and seemingly simply on pause) search for a new income-tax free, based, pretty state with mountains to hide in the woods in his misogyny bunker, one of his no-go criteria was that he couldn't live more than an hour or two's drive from a major city center with access to cultural & big city amenities.

I've never heard him elaborate specifically why, but I've come across a few times his need to remain close to urban bughives that he detests the city & its dwellers otherwise.

His hobbies seem to include solo nature hikes & mountainbiking. So these don't require urban access.

He owns a shitty SUV. He brought his mountainbike with him everywhere when touring the country homeless.

There's a tweet I posted not that long ago here where he says his new rental is something like less than 30 mins by foot roundtrip to the grocery store and can see mountains from his kitchen window. So he can't be that rural.

IIRC, when was living in one of his lower value apartments he hated (around the time of Rich Zoomer Girl in spring 2024), he complained about how poor the selection was at the one grocery store easily accessible to him.

I was initially wrong about my guessed about his hometown. He eventually outrighted stated he grew up in a two-parent New England home. He's mentioned several times that he lived in San Francisco as an adult and there's tons of circumstantial evidence he similarly lived & worked in NYC. His dad currently lives in Florida & seems divorced.

TL; DR - hoe_math is a city boy that constantly schizoposts about the evils of the modern urban bughive and longs to retreat to the wilderness.

But not THAT wild. Like commuter surburban wild so that he can still drive into town to go buy the nice steaks & fancy cheese for grill cheese on the weekends.
 
But not THAT wild. Like commuter surburban wild so that he can still drive into town to go buy the nice steaks & fancy cheese for grill cheese on the weekends.
Which is a shame, because rural communities can have some wonderful farmstands. Sometimes, people get extra anxious if they don't live in a place that's similar to where they grew up, even if they profess to hate it. It's too normalized for their brain to give up. Hoe_math seems like the kind of guy who'd have that type of underlying anxiety that would do this. I could also see him not wanting to be too far from restaurants if he didn't want to cook.
 
"The 5-10% hottest guys"

Any time I hear a man saying "Women only date X types of guys!". I would LOVE to know the type of man they consider to be in that 5-10% because I'm willing to bet they not only look good but they also have good jobs and can take care of themselves and their partners properly.
>be somewhat fit and lean
>dress and groom well
>maintain your hygiene
>have minimally decent social skills
>actually hit on women


This is what these retards mean by 5-10% hottest guys. As should be obvious, this is not in fact 5-10% but more like 60-70% since it is an absurdly easy threshold to clear but you might as well be asking these faggots to climb Mount Everest the way they bitch about it.
 
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