AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[Runch]

The right to work is recognized as a universal right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights.

Why would you say this in response to that post? You're capable of understanding that in this context, "no one is entitled to a job" means "no one should be entitled to exclusive right to a specific job they want," right?

"You said you would hire me, but then you didn't" is only valid if you both signed some kind of contract saying that if they chose to go in a different direction, that you'd still be compensated or something. Otherwise, get fucked.

 

[behindyourightnow]

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The grok trolling raid is STILL going strong. They've been at it consistently for like a week now.

There's something so beautifully pure about this troll campaign, it's like the old days of 4chan vs Tumblr.

Yep, banning some user ID is definitely going to stop the company that runs Discord and hosts all Discord servers and doesn't implement end-to-end encryption from accessing things posted on said servers. Humanity is saved!

I've been seeing hysteria about this all over the place, because apparently, the artwork you post to Discord can now be modified by people using AI!

Do none of them realize that people could... already do that? It just probably took a few seconds longer?

(Also I swear this tool was there like 6 months ago and nobody noticed)

 

[GigaChad]

This dude is giveing off some mad preacher vibes;
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REPENT I SAY!!!! REPENT!!!! REJECT THE ARTIFICIAL DEVIL AND ALL HIS GROTESQUE WORKS!!!!

AI is going to replace 30% of jobs you say. Does this mean we can stop importing shitskins? Isn't it every communists dream to let machines do all the work. I really don't care if artists get replaced by AI slop

 

[McSneaks]

There's something so beautifully pure about this troll campaign, it's like the old days of 4chan vs Tumblr.



I've been seeing hysteria about this all over the place, because apparently, the artwork you post to Discord can now be modified by people using AI!

Do none of them realize that people could... already do that? It just probably took a few seconds longer?

(Also I swear this tool was there like 6 months ago and nobody noticed)

It's almost like discord users are retarded trannies or something lol.

The idea that any AI could actually learn anything beneficial from scraping tranny drawings in the first place is laughable. Even robots have standards

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

I've been seeing hysteria about this all over the place, because apparently, the artwork you post to Discord can now be modified by people using AI!

Do none of them realize that people could... already do that? It just probably took a few seconds longer?

(Also I swear this tool was there like 6 months ago and nobody noticed)

I think that Discord thing was to allow then to freely and automatically ban people for anime child porn (which can mean nearly anything at this time of the day, really).

AI is going to replace 30% of jobs you say. Does this mean we can stop importing shitskins? Isn't it every communists dream to let machines do all the work. I really don't care if artists get replaced by AI slop

It is not going to replace any job at any time soon. The sheer uncreativeness of AI in addition to the fact that it STILL has issues doing complex poses and concepts (to say nothing of doing multiple characters, doing hands and for whatever odd reason living rooms) speaks a lot of volumes. If you can draw you will still draw.

But otherwise artists being replaced by AI slop is VERY bad and you do not want it to happen at all, especially considering even the latest AI art models are relatively limited in terms of what they can do when compared to people.

 

[linchan]

In this case, it's about being entitled to a job that you've already been offered.

He fucking DIED. What the fuck did you expect he'd do? Rebuild him into a cyborg just so he can get a wage to voice Darth Vader?

 

[MagneticTowels]

He fucking DIED. What the fuck did you expect he'd do? Rebuild him into a cyborg just so he can get a wage to voice Darth Vader?

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Unions exist to make sure workers aren’t at the mercy of employers who hold all the power.

Sorta, but they've also always had ties to organized crime.

 

[yt Oliander]

Sorta, but they've also always had ties to organized crime.

That's because unions function exactly like a protection racket.

 

[Creepypasta Mario]

> Likes globohomo shit like the Universal Bill of Rights
> Likes union-based business structures and believe they are the ideal societal future
> Only other thread this faggot interacted with is Shondo, the Loli vtuber

Are we sure @Grimothy Nibblemancer isn't a Vaush fan? At the very least this account gives off massive BreadTuber energy.

Whatever the case, everything about this account reeks DNI and "make thread if they breach OPSEC". I advise others do the same and get this thread back on track.
(Even if SAG-AFTRA is on-topic since they flipflopped their stance on AI and deliberately use the topic as a smokescreen to push their grift)

 

[Runch]

Unions exist to make sure workers aren’t at the mercy of employers who hold all the power.
In any country that calls itself developed, workers should have more power than the companies that profit from them.

It’s that simple.

Where do you draw the line on this?

If I have no budget and I make a video game and I want voice acting I can't afford so I just do it myself with a shitty mic, you're telling me that this should be illegal so I HAVE TO partner with some voice actor's union? No one is allowed to create something on their own, they are forced by law to use unions?

And if I'm allowed to record my own VA by myself for myself, why shouldn't I be allowed to use Microsoft Sam for my voice acting? Or an AI voice?

 

[mr. testicular torsion]

I got alerted to this.
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I think it should be told Discord allows you to ban anyone even if they never once joined your server.

domoai themselves disclose that they do not scrape unless told to in a blog post
how are these people so fucking stupid

 

[linchan]

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domoai themselves disclose that they do not scrape unless told to in a blog post
how are these people so fucking stupid

To be fair they could be, you know, lying.

 

[mr. testicular torsion]

To be fair they could be, you know, lying.

lying? on the internet?
how could this be?

 

[The Thinking Abacus]

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domoai themselves disclose that they do not scrape unless told to in a blog post
how are these people so fucking stupid

Intelligence is irrelevant if you refuse to read in the first place.

 

[malachite]

Sharty grok trolling is now targeting Bluesky artists. This is after multiple artists decided to run to Bluesky to avoid them.

 

[mr. testicular torsion]

Sharty grok trolling is now targeting Bluesky artists. This is after multiple artists decided to run to Bluesky to avoid them.
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you cant fight the Shart.

 

[Runch]

In the situation you are describing, you don't have any employees, so worker unions aren't relevant in this case.
Once your company has several employees, and there is a hierarchical structure between them, contracts should be made between the company owners and the union of employees, rather than between the employers and individual employees. This reduces the asymmetry of power between the parties signing the contract.

So I could build a game company with a bunch of employees, like programmers and administrative positions, but as long as I never enter into the business of hiring voice actors and use nothing but AI, I can ignore SAG-AFTRA altogether.

Doesn't this provide an unfair advantage to new studios, since the old ones are embroiled with acting unions and have potentially long term contracts that force them to continue to work with them, but new players can just never hire a single actor?

What is the point of the union if it's powerless to protect against people independently choosing to never use real actors at all? Isn't this the start of a long slide into irrelevance?

Wouldn't it be in the actors' best interests to come to me and say "hey, I know you don't want to deal with the burden of union contracts, but I'm getting no work due to the rise of AI, please please hire me to voice your game, I'll do it non-union to sweeten the deal?"

 

[The Thinking Abacus]

So I could build a game company with a bunch of employees, like programmers and administrative positions, but as long as I never enter into the business of hiring voice actors and use nothing but AI, I can ignore SAG-AFTRA altogether.

Of course you can. You can also just hire random people, which I've done before.

Doesn't this provide an unfair advantage to new studios, since the old ones are embroiled with acting unions and have potentially long term contracts that force them to continue to work with them, but new players can just never hire a single actor?

Yes, yes it does.

What is the point of the union if it's powerless to protect against people independently choosing to never use real actors at all? Isn't this the start of a long slide into irrelevance?

There isn't much of a point without a network effect. It's strange how monopolies are considered bad in every area except unions. Racketeering as well...

Wouldn't it be in the actors' best interests to come to me and say "hey, I know you don't want to deal with the burden of union contracts, but I'm getting no work due to the rise of AI, please please hire me to voice your game, I'll do it non-union to sweeten the deal?"

The union will fuck them in the ass.

 

[linchan]

So I could build a game company with a bunch of employees, like programmers and administrative positions, but as long as I never enter into the business of hiring voice actors and use nothing but AI, I can ignore SAG-AFTRA altogether.

Doesn't this provide an unfair advantage to new studios, since the old ones are embroiled with acting unions and have potentially long term contracts that force them to continue to work with them, but new players can just never hire a single actor?

What is the point of the union if it's powerless to protect against people independently choosing to never use real actors at all? Isn't this the start of a long slide into irrelevance?

Wouldn't it be in the actors' best interests to come to me and say "hey, I know you don't want to deal with the burden of union contracts, but I'm getting no work due to the rise of AI, please please hire me to voice your game, I'll do it non-union to sweeten the deal?"

I think the tragic fact about the modern union is that there is very little leverage they actually have outside of clout and blind loyalty. When automation and globalized workforce came into the picture the strength of the union utterly crumbled.