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[n1663r]

"I would like, totally be a slave to China for housing and free Healthcare"
No the fuck you wouldn't Becky, holy shit. I understand the economy might suck but having any amount of money leftover after rent and other expenses is better than fucking indentured servitude.
This shit really confirms for me that leftists are the spoiled rich kids they claim to hate so much. It just screams "I don't know how good I've had it because I've never had to genuinely struggle."
Edit: sorry for lateposting, I thought that was from may not march.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I would like, totally be a slave to China for housing and free Healthcare"
No the fuck you wouldn't Becky, holy shit. I understand the economy might suck but having any amount of money leftover after rent and other expenses is better than fucking indentured servitude.

Not to mention the quality of the dorms. You don't have your own space, you share a room with AT LEAST 8 other workers and you are not allowed to leave the property willy nilly and need approval from an admin before heading into town on your days off.

 

[TowinKarz]

Any adult who sees a skull and crossbones label and doesn't immediately think, "hey that's probably toxic" is likely an evolutionary dead end.

I think you and I, like most mature and thinking adults, can get the message from the context.

But lefties are well known for their instant and panicked knee-jerking when the "wrong" symbol shows up, regardless of context. Due to their well known inflexible logic path that there is one (UND ONLY ZE VUN!) way to respond to any given thing. Which is why they crave absolute top-down bans on everything except what they do.

 

[Jotch]

Your a hindi driver and you see this up ahead, what do you do?

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That clearly means "Do not Enter"

 

[Lovely Kin]

"I would like, totally be a slave to China for housing and free Healthcare"
No the fuck you wouldn't Becky, holy shit. I understand the economy might suck but having any amount of money leftover after rent and other expenses is better than fucking indentured servitude.
This shit really confirms for me that leftists are the spoiled rich kids they claim to hate so much. It just screams "I don't know how good I've had it because I've never had to genuinely struggle."
Edit: sorry for lateposting, I thought that was from may not march.

Yes, that's what's typical of many leftists. Rich kids who react to everything with "Don't tell me what to do!", they never outgrew the rebellious teenager phase, but resemble hall monitors more than rebels.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

a comment under a video for a KEI Truck. the more I read some of these comments the more im convinced that a sizable chunk of the people who love KEI Trucks are just coping about how they can't drive a 2-ton Child Killer™

I own a Yukon, FWIW, the thing is hands down the most practical vehicle I own, and one of the most comfortable to ride too. I like these little things, I think it would be neat to own one someday, but I dont understand how someone can look at a tin can with wheels and go "OHMAHGERD Ford and GM simply CANNOT compete"

 

[quaawaa]

I dont understand how someone can look at a tin can with wheels and go "OHMAHGERD Ford and GM simply CANNOT compete"

Side-by-sides and golf carts are practically the same things as Kei trucks and have been around for decades in the US yet Polaris still hasn’t managed to put Ford out of business.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

A Kei truck and a John Deere Gator are the same thing except the Kei has like one or two more amenities as standard.

ETA: Actually depending on the Gator the Suzuki Carry is arguably worse.

Comparing the 2025 Suzuki Carry Kei Truck to the 2025 John Deere XUV 875R Premium Cab Diesel the Kei produces about 64 horsepower and about 63 ft lbs while the Gator produces about 23 horsepower and unstated torque figures. The Kei uses a petrol engine with a 660cc displacement whereas this particular Gator uses a 4 stroke diesel with an 854cc displacement.

The Kei has a larger cargo bed than the Gator. The Kei's cargo bed is approx 79.2 inches long by 51.6 inches wide. John Deere does not give the full dimensions of the Gator on their website but they do give the cargo box dimensions which are 43.3 inches long by 54.8 inches wide. The Kei does have a dropside flatbed which is nice since that's a feature the Gator lacks. On the other hand the Gator has a dump bed and the Kei does not. HOWEVER, the actual rated weight capacities are in the Gator's favor, the Suzuki has a bed capacity of approx 900 lbs at most but are usually estimated to only be able to carry about 750 lbs safely whereas the Gator has a rated bed capacity of 1,000 lbs, so despite the larger bed of the Kei you can still carry near enough the same amount of cargo by weight but only if you really push it in the Kei. The towing capacity on the Kei from what I can see all hover around 1,000 lbs, the Gator has a rated towing capacity of 4,000 lbs.

Creature Comforts:
Gator Premium Cab

2025 Suzuki Carry Kei Truck


CONCLUSION: Literally the only advantage to the Kei over a Gator is that the Kei can maintain road speed and so if you need to make a quick run to town it can do that faster than the Gator. (A lot of rural areas don't care about UTVs or ATVs travelling on the road or even being used on town streets so long as they're registered, before anyone brings up the question of legality. Many small towns in my area have signs that specifically state "all Town of [TOWN] streets are ATV routes unless otherwise posted") The Kei truck does have a larger bed but the overall dimensions between the two means the cab actually isn't that much bigger and the Gator can seat three whereas the Kei can only seat two and the knee room is about the same. Any size advantage the Kei has is immediately undercut by it's whimpy carrying capacity and it can't tow to save it's life either so you can't offset the poor bed capacity with good towing efficiency, meaning that the Kei is only really good for bulky but low density loads, and even then a contractor will need to drop the tailgate and/or lower the sideboards in order for things like plywood, lumber, and sheetrock to lie flat. Which isn't a dealbreaker for me personally but for some contractors that's a serious problem. Really the only advantage to the Kei is that it's very cheap, this particular model sells for about 16,000 USD which is about half what the premium model Gator costs.

It is my ultimate conclusion and opinion that outside of an incredibly small niche THERE IS NO REAL MARKET FOR THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA

Kei Truck info if you want to read for yourself
John Deere's website for the Gator

 

[FPTMIU]

Not Just Bikes really fucking annoys me as someone who lives in the netherlands. Of course a liberal faggot like him is going to dicksuck a migrant invested left wing hellhole like here in the middle of a massive housing crisis while he makes 6 figures from a STEM job probably living in a majority white area while the common man suffers with the turks, arabs, morrocans and niggers.

Especially his obsession with bikes is tremendously faggy, bike-friendly infrastructure is literally just a bandaid on shitty city design. It motivates the same retarded spaced-out nature of American cities but, because it gives people without a drivers license the option of a slower, clunkier and less efficient mode of travel, it means that drivers license requirements are allowed to be up the ass for Gen Zers, meaning basically nobody besides boomers are able to afford a car, and allows the state to give 0 shits about the public transport which is one of the worst I have seen in europe, bus drivers are on strike every other week leading to a bunch of people coming late to work and having to take the blame for the faggots behind the wheel, trains are constantly delayed and never clearly state the place that they're going on the displays that are MADE TO FUCKING DO THAT (Often they just display a PNG in my expierence, so I have to rely on the muffled shit quality intercom to know what city the train is arriving at), so without a phone you're shit out of luck. So, unlike other cities where public transport is a genuine option to get around: Bikes are the only actual way to get around the Netherlands if you're like the average zoomer. So what you get is a bunch of people huddled on bikes going to their jobs inhaling exhaust fumes living paycheck to paycheck and are unable to escape that state because of the policies that NJB soyfaces over on a daily basis in his shitty smugfaced faggot videos that his american liberal reddit faggot followers swoon over.Anyone who lives in the netherlands who genuinely agrees with the trite he puts out ought to shoot themselves in the head asap. Genuinely infuriatingly retarded.

Not to mention the fact that bikes at literally NO point in human history were considered an actually viable form of transportation, even when they were invented in the Victorian period, they were considered overly pricy novelties only enjoyed by rich people. They were less efficient, slower, and worse in every way to just a horse, and were absolutely demolished once cars became popular, not because of EVIL car companies but because they were a genuinely faster and better alternative to horses, and especially bikes as ways to get around. If anything we should be advocating for horse-friendly infrastructure if we were to go by dutch infrastructure logic, now that would be something I could get behind.

 

[Yamamura]

I dont understand how someone can look at a tin can with wheels and go "OHMAHGERD Ford and GM simply CANNOT compete"

Its one of those things where the more people parrot it the more they think its clever and will gain them approval. The thing is if a Kei truck works for someone and they get utility out of it that's great, it suits their use case. Try to claim that's ALL anyone needs and then they start talking out of their ass.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The thing is if a Kei truck works for someone and they get utility out of it that's great, it suits their use case

See after actually reading what a Kei truck can do I think it falls victim to the exact same trap as every other minitruck does: What do you use it for? You can't use it to tow or haul anything that weighs a significant amount which means that it's best for things that are bulky but low density, maybe a bakery or a furniture store would use it? But then again it's not terribly fast (I don't think they even do much more than 60mph) which means that they're only really safe in urban areas or places where you can avoid an interstate. For a non-contractor and non-trade person who only really wants it as a daily driver it offers absolutely no benefit over a sedan except for the maybe one or two times per year that you need to help move furniture or dirt, which is the exact same criticism that literally every other pickup of any size runs up against. And even for a contractor or a tradie it still doesn't really offer that much benefit over an actual pickup due to its lack of creature comforts, low top speed, and bad crash safety rating.

It's such a niche market and the Suzuki Carry Kei Truck is about the same size as a CUV. It's only four feet shorter, about one foot narrower, and is four inches taller than a 2025 Ford Escape. But the Kei has a smaller interior and only benefits from the fact it has a decently sized flatbed, but keep in mind its small hauling and towing capacity for its size.

 

[Baraka Obama]

See after actually reading what a Kei truck can do I think it falls victim to the exact same trap as every other minitruck does: What do you use it for? You can't use it to tow or haul anything that weighs a significant amount which means that it's best for things that are bulky but low density, maybe a bakery or a furniture store would use it? But then again it's not terribly fast (I don't think they even do much more than 60mph) which means that they're only really safe in urban areas or places where you can avoid an interstate. For a non-contractor and non-trade person who only really wants it as a daily driver it offers absolutely no benefit over a sedan except for the maybe one or two times per year that you need to help move furniture or dirt, which is the exact same criticism that literally every other pickup of any size runs up against. And even for a contractor or a tradie it still doesn't really offer that much benefit over an actual pickup due to its lack of creature comforts, low top speed, and bad crash safety rating.

It's such a niche market and the Suzuki Carry Kei Truck is about the same size as a CUV. It's only four feet shorter, about one foot narrower, and is four inches taller than a 2025 Ford Escape. But the Kei has a smaller interior and only benefits from the fact it has a decently sized flatbed, but keep in mind its small hauling and towing capacity for its size.

I know two people in Canada who have owned Kei trucks.

One used hers as a mail delivery truck, we have a class of rural and suburban delivery drivers which have to BYO vehicle. It was actually great for this but it was back before packages were 98% of deliveries.

The other uses his on a farm to boot around his property and transport smaller things around, especially hand picked produce.

The thing is you're right it's probably about as useful as a CUV but it's cute, small, cheap, and you don't have to care about damaging the thing. You can use the bed for larger objects or just a pile of crap and not gaf. It's like a wheelbarrow that runs on gas. And that's exactly how they are used in Japan, farmers and people transporting medium sized loads that want to use a vehicle they don't care about.

It's not for towing but most people don't need to tow anything anyway.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The thing is you're right it's probably about as useful as a CUV but it's cute, small, cheap, and you don't have to care about damaging the thing. You can use the bed for larger objects or just a pile of crap and not gaf. It's like a wheelbarrow that runs on gas. And that's exactly how they are used in Japan, farmers and people transporting medium sized loads that want to use a vehicle they don't care about

And it's a lot cheaper than a UTV which is a nice bonus. My conclusion isn't that they're useless, just unnecessarily niche and I don't see any reason why a company would invest in producing them en masse for the American or Canadian markets.

 

[Baraka Obama]

And it's a lot cheaper than a UTV which is a nice bonus. My conclusion isn't that they're useless, just unnecessarily niche and I don't see any reason why a company would invest in producing them en masse for the American or Canadian markets.

Yeah definitely, even new they would need to be super cheap to make any sense and the car market here (buyers, dealers, manufacturers) does not like "cheap."

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Yeah definitely, even new they would need to be super cheap to make any sense and the car market here (buyers, dealers, manufacturers) does not like "cheap."

Well that one article I posted previously had the sticker price of the 2025 Suzuki Carry Kei as 25k AUD, which is a hair over 16k USD, too lazy to convert that to Canukbux but it's still cheaper than most any other truck you're going to get into, also cheaper than most UTVs or at least premium UTVs. Ultimately I just think that the competition for them won't be cars but instead will be UTVs and at that point the cheapness will be a big factor but once again: niche market.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Especially his obsession with bikes is tremendously faggy, bike-friendly infrastructure is literally just a bandaid on shitty city design. It motivates the same retarded spaced-out nature of American cities but, because it gives people without a drivers license the option of a slower, clunkier and less efficient mode of travel, it means that drivers license requirements are allowed to be up the ass for Gen Zers, meaning basically nobody besides boomers are able to afford a car, and allows the state to give 0 shits about the public transport which is one of the worst I have seen in europe

One of NJB's obsessions is that cities in Canada and the United States are "designed wrong" but never takes into account that they are centuries younger and were designed with a different mindset in that they didn't have to worry about medieval-era logistics and defense. Arguably, non-European cities are what cities are supposed to be if you weren't dirt poor and/or under constant attack.

Not to mention the fact that bikes at literally NO point in human history were considered an actually viable form of transportation, even when they were invented in the Victorian period, they were considered overly pricy novelties only enjoyed by rich people. They were less efficient, slower, and worse in every way to just a horse, and were absolutely demolished once cars became popular, not because of EVIL car companies but because they were a genuinely faster and better alternative to horses, and especially bikes as ways to get around. If anything we should be advocating for horse-friendly infrastructure if we were to go by dutch infrastructure logic, now that would be something I could get behind.

There was Hong Kong, but they too eventually switched to cars when they stopped being poor (and those bicycles weren't the expensive type, either), but then again Hong Kong is idolized in these circles ("A cluster of filthy buildings with no fire code, no building standards, and tiny walk-in closets for apartments? Sign me up!")

 

[Return of the Freaker]

There was Hong Kong, but they too eventually switched to cars when they stopped being poor (and those bicycles weren't the expensive type, either), but then again Hong Kong is idolized in these circles ("A cluster of filthy buildings with no fire code, no building standards, and tiny walk-in closets for apartments? Sign me up!")

If you look at urban China in the 70s-90s there was also a lot of cycling. Same situation as Hong Kong.

 

[Baraka Obama]

One of NJB's obsessions is that cities in Canada and the United States are "designed wrong" but never takes into account that they are centuries younger and were designed with a different mindset in that they didn't have to worry about medieval-era logistics and defense. Arguably, non-European cities are what cities are supposed to be if you weren't dirt poor and/or under constant attack.

It's worse than that even, he starts with the assumption that you'd want to walk or bike everywhere but why exactly would you?

In my city it's miserably cold 5 months out of the year, even if you want to tough it out and walk good luck after a snowstorm, the remainder of the year how many days do we get where it isn't pouring rain or so blazing hot that you don't want to be outside? Not that many if we're honest, great days to spend outside with your kids at a park or in your backyard pool. Not days I'd want to walk to work or the nearest organic dildo store.

A city geared towards residential areas having nice safe walks to schools and parks (loops and lollipop street layout) with a larger grid of arterial roads to take you anywhere else by car is correct and ideal.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

were designed with a different mindset in that they didn't have to worry about medieval-era logistics and defense.

Or niggers

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It's worse than that even, he starts with the assumption that you'd want to walk or bike everywhere but why exactly would you?

In my city it's miserably cold 5 months out of the year, even if you want to tough it out and walk good luck after a snowstorm, the remainder of the year how many days do we get where it isn't pouring rain or so blazing hot that you don't want to be outside? Not that many if we're honest, great days to spend outside with your kids at a park or in your backyard pool. Not days I'd want to walk to work or the nearest organic dildo store.

A city geared towards residential areas having nice safe walks to schools and parks (loops and lollipop street layout) with a larger grid of arterial roads to take you anywhere else by car is correct and ideal.

Even if the climate was better (and no, anything related to "climate change" won't do jack shit in improving it) I like my car. I thought it was cool to ride a bicycle everywhere as a kid but I'm not a child anymore.

It's not just that a car has a whole bunch of other nifty features that nothing else can provide (including enclosed storage) the whole way that your typical urbanist views cities is so limiting--you have your local grocery store, bars, shops, and so on, and those are the ones you should visit, because apparently quality doesn't matter.

An excellent example is a post a while back complaining about people driving to a church more than their "local" one (a bad take, even for atheist standards, apparently forgetting denominations. Likewise, they sneer at car dropoffs for schools...except for the fact that neighborhood schools were largely legislated out of existence decades ago thanks to the Civil Rights Act and other court cases/city "leadership"/etc.