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Newcomer 42 said:
Have you noticed how BAD the Tiny Toons and the Animaniacs remakes were? And we got worse from that. TBF, it all started with the plandemic being used as an excuse to make people crazier, no doubt things got worse.
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At least you can watch the Animaniacs remake. The Tiny Toons remake is completely unwatchable.
 
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Outer Space Traveller said:
I have come to ask a completely weird question: why do people who make good cartoons (Dexter's Lab) never give parents proper names? That always bothered me ever since I was a child.
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If the kids are the focus, there's really no need to give the parents names since it's not likely they'll have a day in the limelight to themselves. When you give a character a name, that suggests they'll be playing a role outside of what's been assigned to them. That's why the Rugrats parents stand out so much, because they have names and thus they actually play a bigger role in the series than expected even though the babies are the main focus. Hell, in some cases, you focus on the parents more than the children themselves, but the child audience doesn't pick up on that immediately.
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Cave Fisher said:
I really hate how a lot of animated movies about existing characters have to be about their origin story instead of them going on adventures, especially when they have to "earn" or grow into the traits that made them iconic in the first place.
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That's why I have always had a soft spot for the Sinbad animated movie. Its not about how Sinbad became Sinbad, just another one of his adventurers.
 
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Patrick Bait-man said:
>TAWOG premiered in 2011
>TAWOG ended in 2019
>TAWOG is being revived in 2025

We're at the end stage of western animation where the last bastion of greats from the early 2010s is being rebooted. I'm only in my 20s and I feel seriously fucking old right now.
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When you were younger watching these fresh authentic feeling shows, did you ever imagine that in just a decade they would be the equivalent of treading water?
I sure didn't.(:_(
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
If the kids are the focus, there's really no need to give the parents names since it's not likely they'll have a day in the limelight to themselves. When you give a character a name, that suggests they'll be playing a role outside of what's been assigned to them. That's why the Rugrats parents stand out so much, because they have names and thus they actually play a bigger role in the series than expected even though the babies are the main focus. Hell, in some cases, you focus on the parents more than the children themselves, but the child audience doesn't pick up on that immediately.
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I guess that makes sense... Good point.
 
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Warai Otoko said:
From the makers of Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
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Not big on kpop but they're willing to let attractive female characters make goofy ugly faces, idk I think it could be good at least style wise. Even big faux-progressive studios aren't willing to let pretty girls break character model and be expressive.

Just...change that fuckin title, it sounds like a working title on a production bible.
 
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ShiftyBoi said:
Not big on kpop but they're willing to let attractive female characters make goofy ugly faces, idk I think it could be good at least style wise. Even big faux-progressive studios aren't willing to let pretty girls break character model and be expressive.

Just...change that fuckin title, it sounds like a working title on a production bible.
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They made the male Kpop stars demons that take your soul, you can't make this up.
 
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Always hated this Virgin vs Chad Peter meme because it does not get the joke in the slightest and is just a butthurt Toonautist seething. The joke would be to call the "Current Peter" the Chad fornheign agressive and asocial this is just corny and lame. Like the joke is that you like the virgin and find him relatable but feel society rejects that and prefers the more brutish and impulsive Chad that's the whole point.
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Vinluv Handesbukia said:
Always hated this Virgin vs Chad Peter meme because it does not get the joke in the slightest and is just a butthurt Toonautist seething. The joke would be to call the "Current Peter" the Chad fornheign agressive and asocial this is just corny and lame. Like the joke is that you like the virgin and find him relatable but feel society rejects that and prefers the more brutish and impulsive Chad that's the whole point.
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SMC in 1979 - say what you will about the soulless hackery of a lot of US animation in the 1980s, the 1970s were rougher. I mean, Johnny quest is good and original jetsons is okay-ish but like Looney Tunes, those were greatest hits reruns. That's what a lot of the lineups were like in the 1970s, reruns and all new, all terrible shows from H-B and Filmation at their most "The Seventies".

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I was thinking about this after coming across this explanation as to how SMC worked the way they did back when, and why they were the way they were, from the site of Mark Evanier, who has, to understate it, had some experience in TV and animation.

It had a lot to do with two problems that the programmers faced when they were buying shows to run on Saturday morning back in the days when CBS, NBC and ABC ran shows for kids then…problems which didn't exist for the folks down the hall programming live-action shows for prime time.

One was the lead time necessary for animation. The new shows that were ordered for the season beginning in September usually had to be ordered by around the end of February. The other problem was that the way the math worked on the budgets, you — I'm making you the programming person in this explanation — had to order a year of shows at a time. You ordered thirteen episodes that would each run four times to fill out 52 weeks.

The guys in the prime-time division could order thirteen episodes of a new sitcom. They could order six. And as those shows were shot, they could visit the sets and watch the filming or look at rough cuts of episodes in progress. They could look at the first few episodes of Happy Days and say, "Hey, let's give that Fonzie character more screen time"…and Fonzie would have more screen time in the episode shot the following week.

Or they could order thirteen of a new show called Three's Company (this is just one example of many) and then after the first few aired and got good ratings, they could quickly order more episodes so Show #14 could air the week after Show #13 and be followed immediately by Show #15 and Show #16 and so on. You couldn't get new episodes of an animated series that quickly…and the way things were budgeted, you really couldn't buy Show #14 until the following season. You had to run that first batch of thirteen over and over.
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Kari Kamiya said:
I would still rather watch a '70s line-up than the literal gay shit they have in "children's" cartoons now.
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Hard disagree.
For 3 straight decades in America the only places you could find good mainstream animation with a plot was either Disney or Ralph Bakshi. Cheap hack studios like Hannah Barbera lowered the standard to practically nothing for years.

At least the gay shit now tries to take risks and be something, and you still have decades worth of cartoons at your fingertips, back then all you had was the same formula over and over again.
 
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Enig said:
The 70s shit gave us John K, do you really want that happening again?
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Well, true. (this clip's from the 80's but still, you can see how John whipped his dick out)
 
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