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You realize this is a testing time for the Jewish community, right? Considering what just happened in D.C. do you think it appropriate to promote a foid /pol/ack to a public facing role representing the Pentagon? You think this is funny? You better watch your ass burgers.
You could always leave for Israel. At this point I'm convinced Isrsel as a state is just there for jews to launder money to.
 
People didn't get along. There was less fuckery for two reasons.

1 - Most pre modern societies were racially homogeneous. Diverse one's collapsed and didn't have USAID to artificially keep them afloat.

2 - In most pre modern nations virtually all crimes were punished by execution. In Victorian London for example even pickpockets and vagrants were hanged.
Sorry, probably should've phrased that as "live their lives just fine". What I meant was that people just kept living like normal in the past, just like in the present. Technological advancement makes it easier to stay alive, but that really shouldn't be confused with the nonsensical idea that history is a linear progression from "people being mean" to "people being nice".

More on the topic of people getting along: this current era of peace is nothing special, and certainly nothing permanent. The Romans in their Empire eventually grew tired of war, to the point that when Alaric brought his Goths to sack the city of Rome, the locals just opened the gates because they didn't want to fight off the barbarians.
 
If I'm not ninja'd (which is admittedly likely based on how much later I'm reading this) iirc the reproducibility crisis is actually due to not as much funding and grants given to scientists to reproduce an experiment, since it's not as glamorous as being the one to make the groundbreaking experiment. This can also be a result of not as many scientists wanting to do the non-glamorous work of reproducing an experiment, resulting in a chicken-egg scenario. So there are a fair amount of experiments that are unlikely to attempt to be reproduced to verify results, due to the slight stigma attached.

Of course, I could be thinking of the wrong reproducibility crisis, this is just the one that I know of and am fairly familiar with. My knowledge is from 5 years ago though so things might have changed since then.
Peer review has been a retarded standard since inception. It's 'find a group of people who like you and will rubber-stamp your paper' and always has been.

This is the reason people saying shit like 'we're entering/living in a Cartesian crisis' are retarded. We have always been living in a Cartesian crisis. A lot of academic advances were done against popular academia and were rejected only to later be rewritten as products of academia. Even Einstein caught massive flak in his early years.

It's a fucking joke. Galileo's greatest enemies were his peers until he thought it'd be a funny idea to prank the pope with a no-show.
 
If I'm not ninja'd (which is admittedly likely based on how much later I'm reading this) iirc the reproducibility crisis is actually due to not as much funding and grants given to scientists to reproduce an experiment, since it's not as glamorous as being the one to make the groundbreaking experiment. This can also be a result of not as many scientists wanting to do the non-glamorous work of reproducing an experiment, resulting in a chicken-egg scenario. So there are a fair amount of experiments that are unlikely to attempt to be reproduced to verify results, due to the slight stigma attached.

Of course, I could be thinking of the wrong reproducibility crisis, this is just the one that I know of and am fairly familiar with. My knowledge is from 5 years ago though so things might have changed since then.
That's the narrative that "scientists" give because they want more grants, but most irreproducible science isn't due to honest mistakes but rather due to blatant fraud on the part of the researchers. Tons of papers don't include enough information to replicate them and play ridiculous statistical games in their data analysis and should be rejected but aren't because peer review is nothing more than an old-boys club.

The way to fix science is to stop giving open-ended grants, which are a very modern creation with a poor track record. Historically, every advancement has happened because the funder wants something specific beyond "advancing science". Transistors, for example, were invented because Bell Telephone wanted an improved switchboard, not because they gave a blank check to generic scientists. Military spending drives more development than civilian grants because they always have a goal in mind (e.g. MIT's reputation was built off of DOD grants to develop early-warning systems for incoming Soviet bombers/ICBMs).
 
I just realized I haven't heard the phrase "late capitalism" in a few years. Refreshing. Leftoids are so fucking repetitive with the memes, it's great to realize they've finally moved on from one and you don't have to hear it anymore.
From what I've seen leftists don't seem to care much about economic matters at all anymore. It's all racial and gender shit.

I mean how often did Kamala Harris mention the economy when she was campaigning? Twice maybe? If even that?
 
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You know libs are getting desperate when they whip out the "You only care because you're a virgin" argument.
That's nothing new. "Incel" has always been the insult of choice for women and especially liberal women.
It doesn't even make sense in this context. What does -making sure a foreigner is sent back to their country- even have to do with being a virgin?

So -making sure justice is upheld- is now on the same category as being an incel? That's on the same level of retardation as -being successful in life- being a white supremacist only thing
 
Had a meandering series of thoughts over coffee about the whole black fatigue through-line, and the persistent "muh colonialism/colonizers" boogiemen narratives being posted on and off with the south africa thing once again in the public eye, Illuminated by the creeping realization that a lot of people don't actually know things or retain information that doesn't come out of a online headline or television even past the boomer generation.

And the now classic understanding that liberals don't know things, they base everything off of consumed media and it's story structures and "Trust me bros" from proclaimed experts.

Since I've seen a few posts and rambling this and that's discussing in detail that a shocking amount of humanity regardless of race is walking around being functionality illiterate.


Massive (Il)literacy
English Majors can't read

Anecdotal protip: adults in your place of business suddenly fumphering and grumbling sheepishly that they don't have their reading glasses when you have a document for them to read are covering for something,
and it's not myopia.


Spoilering the rest not to fuck the thread readability to death with slow day autism.
After some ruminating on it.

I think a stunning amount of people quietly have internalized a weird false understanding that they conflate the american civil war with colonial conflicts and power in some sort of anachronistic clusterfuck, and without actively even knowing it. They well and truly think it in those terms, they think that every single region and people colonized probably "Won a war/fight" for their independance as a result.

The pitched theorized summary: The american civil war is like a founding myth for their understanding of international intercultural and racial relations and the notion of independance with some bleedover of american independance "lore".

The notion of signing documents or tabled discussion or simple operational attrition and moving on never comes to mind because it's not in the culture war cinematic universe. It has no sizzle and it would sit oddly in their mind to know about incidents where people just one day "Stopped" doing a hecking colonism and nobody- to their limited understanding, seemed to actively "do anything" to make that happen

I bet you a crisp five bucks that a shocking amount of these types of people when pressed, would answer that of course they beat the yt savages out in all of the major ex-french and english colonies if you asked why they stopped being colonized actively outside of the cases where it might be true like Haiti and Zimbabwae.
Because what realy happened by and large clashes with their media tinted understanding of cause and effect and A vs B.

A stunning amount of people haven't actually read or absorbed any information or recognize patterns, and fundamentally don't understand the unique quibble and oddity of the target of their global hatred with their axe to grind with the eternal anglo/huwite man.

Their perceived enemy simply gets bored, their enemy has mercy, their enemy understands sunk cost fallacy and or feels bad eventually or decides it's a bunk venture to play civilization builder for people who are actively doing everything in their power to not have running water and functional argiculture and move on.

Their enemy also recognizes when people are simply no longer willing to play ball like India or that it's not productive anymore and just fuck off. India never had a defining major conflcit or decisive battle, they just gradually were wrote off as independant in another slow burn which also conveniently coincided with the brits being strained and spread thin because of that whole pesky world war 2 thing. (1939 to 1945 for WW2 VS Debatably 1919 to 1947 for that whole India situation)

And you'd think that Gandhi single handedly signed the damn thing in the same year he started the movement based on cultural perception.

Another relevent thing to note:
Giving an enemy mercy that surrenders was always an option and not genociding your opposition is the last thing on the mind of most any other people.
(IE: There are still natives left to complain in white nations, because of that little nagging detail that nobody else tends to leave any of theirs around is one such uncomfortable truth.)

Which segways into the other important distinction, Who the fuck else on earth demographically speaking, could endure a years long bloody extended conflict with anyone else, and after it was over, dust themselves off and look your leaders in the eye and more or less say to them...
"Need any help rebuilding?, yes even the guys we were fighting. But you gotta pinky promise not to pull that kinda shit again."

Because the west has done that shit, several times. If you count Japan and every country/region in the Marshall plan beyond just "Europe" as a catch all umbrella.

I'm not going to pad this section out any further with anything regarding africa and letting people inherit infastructure either.
Empire of Dust conveys all that better and in more detail than I can.


Add to the little detail that the internment camps for the japanese during the war were only that and not something more sinister, and had a "Okay we're done go and be citizens again" expiration date already puts the hu'wite devil at statistically impossible odds of intent and outcome VS the rest of the world since china is a nice shiny new example of what other people tend to do with theirs.
The Japanese of course aren't strangers to what they've done in a similar position either.


What am I getting at? What's the point of all this rambling and contextualization? I'm a fucking aging blowhard for one, but more importantly IMO

TL;DR: The heart of the theory, The people who smugly and derisively call the west collectively - The white devil boogieman colonizer. Who to their perception is a persistant global threat, while simultaneously tacitly believing that they simply "Beat them" before and that they're just a humiliated and deposed villain at the moment.

It's likely a major reason why they feel so comfortable doing it.

An entire attitude is based on a misunderstood association with the entire notion of independance itself.
Because there are likely swathes of people who associate the entire concept with physically fighting for it and winning.

Mostly in part because there are too many people who literally can't parse reality itself without an expert to repeat it, a movie to show and not tell it or the extent of their research starting and ending with "Reddit/Chat/Grok is this true?"
 
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From what I've seen leftists don't seem to care much about economic matters at all anymore. It's all racial and gender shit.

I mean how often did Kamala Harris mention the economy when she was campaigning? Twice maybe? If even that?
It's hard for them to look at the economy with sober eyes since they themselves are responsible for most of its problems, from mass migration to over-regulation to inflation.
 
You realize this is a testing time for the Jewish community, right? Considering what just happened in D.C. do you think it appropriate to promote a foid /pol/ack to a public facing role representing the Pentagon? You think this is funny? You better watch your ass burgers.
is this a gimmick account
 
Hot take: America has bigger fish to fry than the anything the jews are up too. And I think getting rid of them would only resulting another racial group doing the same stuff they do.
Indians are lining up to take over by sheer numbers and culture of nepotism and cheating . Thats worse at least the jews are few milion across the world . 1 bllion pajeets are on this world and they stink and rape far more than Kikes
 
That study is kind of BS to me. They had them read a super anachronistic text that was the opening scene setting bit of a longer work. They had them sentence by sentence out loud try to translate it into modern English to explain what was going on and had a twenty minute time limit. I don't think I could do it in twenty minutes out loud and I don't think that means I can't read.

CHAPTER I​

In Chancery​

London. Michaelmas term lately over, and the Lord Chancellor sitting in Lincoln’s Inn Hall. Implacable November weather. As much mud in the streets as if the waters had but newly retired from the face of the earth, and it would not be wonderful to meet a Megalosaurus, forty feet long or so, waddling like an elephantine lizard up Holborn Hill. Smoke lowering down from chimney-pots, making a soft black drizzle, with flakes of soot in it as big as full-grown snowflakes—gone into mourning, one might imagine, for the death of the sun. Dogs, undistinguishable in mire. Horses, scarcely better; splashed to their very blinkers. Foot passengers, jostling one another’s umbrellas in a general infection of ill temper, and losing their foot-hold at street-corners, where tens of thousands of other foot passengers have been slipping and sliding since the day broke (if this day ever broke), adding new deposits to the crust upon crust of mud, sticking at those points tenaciously to the pavement, and accumulating at compound interest.

Fog everywhere. Fog up the river, where it flows among green aits and meadows; fog down the river, where it rolls defiled among the tiers of shipping and the waterside pollutions of a great (and dirty) city. Fog on the Essex marshes, fog on the Kentish heights. Fog creeping into the cabooses of collier-brigs; fog lying out on the yards and hovering in the rigging of great ships; fog drooping on the gunwales of barges and small boats. Fog in the eyes and throats of ancient Greenwich pensioners, wheezing by the firesides of their wards; fog in the stem and bowl of the afternoon pipe of the wrathful skipper, down in his close cabin; fog cruelly pinching the toes and fingers of his shivering little ’prentice boy on deck. Chance people on the bridges peeping over the parapets into a nether sky of fog, with fog all round them, as if they were up in a balloon and hanging in the misty clouds.

Gas looming through the fog in divers places in the streets, much as the sun may, from the spongey fields, be seen to loom by husbandman and ploughboy. Most of the shops lighted two hours before their time—as the gas seems to know, for it has a haggard and unwilling look.

The raw afternoon is rawest, and the dense fog is densest, and the muddy streets are muddiest near that leaden-headed old obstruction, appropriate ornament for the threshold of a leaden-headed old corporation, Temple Bar. And hard by Temple Bar, in Lincoln’s Inn Hall, at the very heart of the fog, sits the Lord High Chancellor in his High Court of Chancery.

Never can there come fog too thick, never can there come mud and mire too deep, to assort with the groping and floundering condition which this High Court of Chancery, most pestilent of hoary sinners, holds this day in the sight of heaven and earth.

On such an afternoon, if ever, the Lord High Chancellor ought to be sitting here—as here he is—with a foggy glory round his head, softly fenced in with crimson cloth and curtains, addressed by a large advocate with great whiskers, a little voice, and an interminable brief, and outwardly directing his contemplation to the lantern in the roof, where he can see nothing but fog. On such an afternoon some score of members of the High Court of Chancery bar ought to be—as here they are—mistily engaged in one of the ten thousand stages of an endless cause, tripping one another up on slippery precedents, groping knee-deep in technicalities, running their goat-hair and horsehair warded heads against walls of words and making a pretence of equity with serious faces, as players might. On such an afternoon the various solicitors in the cause, some two or three of whom have inherited it from their fathers, who made a fortune by it, ought to be—as are they not?—ranged in a line, in a long matted well (but you might look in vain for truth at the bottom of it) between the registrar’s red table and the silk gowns, with bills, cross-bills, answers, rejoinders, injunctions, affidavits, issues, references to masters, masters’ reports, mountains of costly nonsense, piled before them. Well may the court be dim, with wasting candles here and there; well may the fog hang heavy in it, as if it would never get out; well may the stained-glass windows lose their colour and admit no light of day into the place; well may the uninitiated from the streets, who peep in through the glass panes in the door, be deterred from entrance by its owlish aspect and by the drawl, languidly echoing to the roof from the padded dais where the Lord High Chancellor looks into the lantern that has no light in it and where the attendant wigs are all stuck in a fog-bank! This is the Court of Chancery, which has its decaying houses and its blighted lands in every shire, which has its worn-out lunatic in every madhouse and its dead in every churchyard, which has its ruined suitor with his slipshod heels and threadbare dress borrowing and begging through the round of every man’s acquaintance, which gives to monied might the means abundantly of wearying out the right, which so exhausts finances, patience, courage, hope, so overthrows the brain and breaks the heart, that there is not an honourable man among its practitioners who would not give—who does not often give—the warning, “Suffer any wrong that can be done you rather than come here!”

Who happen to be in the Lord Chancellor’s court this murky afternoon besides the Lord Chancellor, the counsel in the cause, two or three counsel who are never in any cause, and the well of solicitors before mentioned? There is the registrar below the judge, in wig and gown; and there are two or three maces, or petty-bags, or privy purses, or whatever they may be, in legal court suits. These are all yawning, for no crumb of amusement ever falls from Jarndyce and Jarndyce (the cause in hand), which was squeezed dry years upon years ago. The short-hand writers, the reporters of the court, and the reporters of the newspapers invariably decamp with the rest of the regulars when Jarndyce and Jarndyce comes on. Their places are a blank. Standing on a seat at the side of the hall, the better to peer into the curtained sanctuary, is a little mad old woman in a squeezed bonnet who is always in court, from its sitting to its rising, and always expecting some incomprehensible judgment to be given in her favour. Some say she really is, or was, a party to a suit, but no one knows for certain because no one cares. She carries some small litter in a reticule which she calls her documents, principally consisting of paper matches and dry lavender. A sallow prisoner has come up, in custody, for the half-dozenth time to make a personal application “to purge himself of his contempt,” which, being a solitary surviving executor who has fallen into a state of conglomeration about accounts of which it is not pretended that he had ever any knowledge, he is not at all likely ever to do. In the meantime his prospects in life are ended. Another ruined suitor, who periodically appears from Shropshire and breaks out into efforts to address the Chancellor at the close of the day’s business and who can by no means be made to understand that the Chancellor is legally ignorant of his existence after making it desolate for a quarter of a century, plants himself in a good place and keeps an eye on the judge, ready to call out “My Lord!” in a voice of sonorous complaint on the instant of his rising. A few lawyers’ clerks and others who know this suitor by sight linger on the chance of his furnishing some fun and enlivening the dismal weather a little.
 
That study is kind of BS to me. They had them read a super anachronistic text that was the opening scene setting bit of a longer work. They had them sentence by sentence out loud try to translate it into modern English to explain what was going on and had a twenty minute time limit. I don't think I could do it in twenty minutes out loud and I don't think that means I can't read.
To be fair and transparent on my end, There's a myriad of other posts about it and examples of broken information parsing but it's all twitter posts and I am loathe to link to social media too often unless it's to point and laugh because the formatting of it all gives me a spiritual hemorrhoid.

A lot of them couldn't even parse a single accurate iota of meaning out of the declaration of independence and other similar examples of historical documents.
Despite even being allowed to refer to it on hand and in some cases were even allowed access to their phones and the internet during the whole thing.

Edit: Found it again to at least drop an example. Again, one sentence. The first sentence.

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They had them read a super anachronistic text
The twenty minute time limit is bullshit but this is not the reason. If you're an English major this shouldn't be 'super anachronistic'. It's really not something I'd expect a high schooler to have trouble with.

The reason the time limit is bullshit is because it's a lot of text if you're supposed to actually line-by-line recompose it in modern English. Forty or sixty minutes would've been fine.

Edit: I thought the writing seemed familiar. I've never read the Bleak House by Dickens, but Dickensian works are not 'super anachronistic'. They're much easier to comprehend than Shakespearean English or the K.J.V.
 
I would call that protowoke. It's a refusal to acknowledge irrationality, stupidity, and the enjoyment of hatred. It's a very dangerous mindset that is still running a lot of the West.
That's not protowoke. Wokeism isn't about refusal to acknowledge irrationality, stupidity and the enjoyment of hatred. Wokeism is irrationality, stupidity and the enjoyment of hatred. The woke don't think 'Oh, if only we could all understand each other, we'd all get along'. No, they don't want to understand their ideological opponents, they want to bully them into accepting their narrow worldview on a small selection of topics, typically race, gender, sexuality and climate change, with no room for nuance, debate or criticism, or no concern for deeper issues.

For that reason alone TNG is not even 'protowoke'

And the left do acknowledge irrationality, stupidity or the enjoyment of hatred. It's just that they either disingenuously deny those things, or try to argue that those things are justified because the people engaging in them are oppressed. They'd argue that the ANC in South Africa have the right to kill the white farmers and confiscate their land because the white farmers oppressed them all those years ago, for example.
You saw the same shit with that awful animaniacs reboot. “We were always political!” Yes, you always made political and cultural jokes, but you weren’t hyper lefty and Republican bashing.
Yeah, that annoyed me too. Like you say, they made political and cultural jokes, but they weren't sharp like that, you know? They were just gentle jabs, it was a kids' show. They made fun of Democrats and Republicans almost equally, they took the piss out of Bill Clinton almost constantly.

They could never do anything like that now because they don't know how to approach political topics without propagandising them
 
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