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Not that it's super important, but I want to clear up that it's the other way around. Lev is a boy who "identifies" as a girl and wants to be called Lily. Only sometimes, though. The character is voiced by a real life troon.
Don't lie, the voice actor is a (really ugly) pooner and "Lev" freaks out when SHE gets called Lily because it's "deadnaming ohh"
 
Don't lie, the voice actor is a (really ugly) pooner and "Lev" freaks out when SHE gets called Lily because it's "deadnaming ohh"
Aaaahhh, fuck it. Looks like I'm getting confused myself. It's probably because I skipped the cutscene in which Yara talks about Lev/Lily's backstory.

What's a pooner? Was the voice actor born with a penis or not? With skinny Asians it's especially hard to tell.
 
I thought the actor who played the tranny character was a dude who is "non binary" IRL.


female to male
So the character in the game is the same as the person in real life? A biological woman pretending to be a man? At least that's consistent, if you can call it that.
 
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Wait Lev is an actual troon? I thought Lev was a Bridget situation and she was just pretending to be a boy to avoid being murdered or raped by the weird religious cult she was a part of.

Don't they literally say that in the game?
 
In total fairness, the zombies weren't really that important in TLOU1 either. It's one of those Humans are the real monsters narrative. They're a plot device and for action set pieces.
While true, the driving reason for why Joel and Ellie are on their journey to the Fireflies is because she could help lead to a cure to the whole zombie problem, so so it's always there in the back of your head as well as being part of the moral question at the heart of the ending as Joel could have sealed humanity's fate by choosing to save one life. Even though Druckman is on record saying that Joel did nothing wrong and that he himself would hope to do the same thing in that situation.

With TLOU2, is there really anything new about the zombies to make them more interesting? Like, going off the in-universe description for how the infection works, you have a year between somebody getting infected to the point they turn into faceless cabbage monsters, so why not have something where a survivor is faced with the infected form of somebody they knew and have to put them down? I don't know if TLOU did that or not but even something as minor as that still ties the action on screen back to reflecting the setting.
Wait Lev is an actual troon? I thought Lev was a Bridget situation and she was just pretending to be a boy to avoid being murdered or raped by the weird religious cult she was a part of.

Don't they literally say that in the game?
That's the problem with Lev. It's like the game almost recognizes that a tranny character doesn't make sense in a post-apocalypse, so it has to basically twist the Mulan backstory to force her into going tranny instead of just, y'know, cross-dressing and dropping the act once she's free. It's kind of unnerving when you think about it on a moral commentary level.
 
Wait Lev is an actual troon? I thought Lev was a Bridget situation and she was just pretending to be a boy to avoid being murdered or raped by the weird religious cult she was a part of.

Don't they literally say that in the game?
Again, from what I understand:

- The character was born as a woman named Lily. She decided she's a man and shaved her head to look more like one. Throughout the game she's almost always referred to as a man named Lev.
- The person who played Lev/Lily (mo-cap, model, voice) was ALSO born as a woman and is ALSO pretending to be a man in real life (AKA pooner). Goes by Ian Alexander and I can't be arsed to look for her birth name.
 
Like, going off the in-universe description for how the infection works, you have a year between somebody getting infected to the point they turn into faceless cabbage monsters, so why not have something where a survivor is faced with the infected form of somebody they knew and have to put them down? I don't know if TLOU did that or not but even something as minor as that still ties the action on screen back to reflecting the setting.
Wait 1 year? In TLOU1 you encounter this pair of brothers and the young one gets infected by the end of that arc and quickly turns into a mindless zombie trying to attack Ellie. Or do you mean the transformation from still human form zombie to full fungus monster?
 
Wait 1 year? In TLOU1 you encounter this pair of brothers and the young one gets infected by the end of that arc and quickly turns into a mindless zombie trying to attack Ellie. Or do you mean the transformation from still human form zombie to full fungus monster?
He meant it takes a year for a runner to turn into a clicker.

Tess early in the 1st game says that everybody turns within 48 hours after she and Joel find out Ellie is infected.
 
So if the cult has child brides and Lev wants to become a boy to be a hunter or whatever, why is half the enemy pool of theirs women? Clearly female warriors are already a thing so they couldn't just give the elder some other kid?
The entire setting makes no fucking sense, Druckman should mud wrestle Kojima for the coveted biggest incompetent hack in the universe award.
 
The entire setting makes no fucking sense, Druckman should mud wrestle Kojima for the coveted biggest incompetent hack in the universe award.
I mean, I played Death Stranding and the enemies in that game are all men. Even Kojimbo seems to realize that in an apocalyptic setting women would be locked in bunkers and kept out of the field.

There are no female porters outside of Fragile either, I don't think, and she is only one because she can literally teleport.
 
There are no female porters outside of Fragile either, I don't think, and she is only one because she can literally teleport.
And despite being able to teleport and having borderline esp she is still stupid and incompetent enough to get captured by Higgs.

What did Kojima mean by this?
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So if the cult has child brides and Lev wants to become a boy to be a hunter or whatever, why is half the enemy pool of theirs women? Clearly female warriors are already a thing so they couldn't just give the elder some other kid?
They completely ignore the fact that women are useless in combat in real life. For all intents and purposes, they are equal to men in the game. I knew I just had to ignore this and focus on the gameplay and presentation, but it didn't stop me from chuckling every now and then. For instance, there's a cutscene in which the team consists of three women and one guy. One of the women is a skinny 13 year old girl with mental health issues and the other is 6 months pregnant.
 
They completely ignore the fact that women are useless in combat in real life. For all intents and purposes, they are equal to men in the game. I knew I just had to ignore this and focus on the gameplay and presentation, but it didn't stop me from chuckling every now and then. For instance, there's a cutscene in which the team consists of three women and one guy. One of the women is a skinny 13 year old girl with mental health issues and the other is 6 months pregnant.
There's also an also an even more ridiculous looking and hypermuscular Abby Armstrong in the Seraphite village, bitch is so jacked she looks like the Toxic Avenger.

Druckman has to have a muscle girl fetish.
 
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