RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[The greater a'tuin]

I think RWBY would have been remembered better if they just finished some of the damn stories. Red v Blue had several arcs that finished in 3~4 seasons: discrete segments of stories with a beginning, middle and end. RWBY started down the path of a massive epic with no end in sight. Now there are zero complete stories and a big open ended exit.

Rooster Teeth shows were either far too long or far too short.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I tried to not remember that point, because it was obviously dumb and set-up for the villain to escape by crashing the ship. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I swear either Clove or Qrow was dumb enough to trust the psycho instead of joining together to defeat the bad guy, then making a Pikachu face when he kills the other and blames the survivor.

Clover was the one who died. Meanwhile, Qrow was working to stop a lunatic while also trying to evade arrest. And again, the only reason Qrow and Clover came to blows so much was because Tyrian was constantly dodging attacks and nudging Qrow and Clover into each other while doing so. Heel tactics to win a triple threat match.

That sadly doesn't mean much: Team RWBY somehow kicked the General's hand-picked team because "they had some training", kek.

There was some training scenes in V7. But if the idea was that they had gotten stronger traveling through Mistral or fighting WTCH and the Leviathan, then that wasn't displayed very well, if at all.

Or Raven's merry band of bandits who surprise attack villages and doom them to die, then she has the nerve to talk about "her victims being weak".

Wasn't that the point of Yang and Raven's scene together in the V5 vault? To just have Yang completely tear apart Raven's narratives and views of the world and show that she's scared of a lot of things? And that idealism is better than being the cynical asshole douche Raven is?

Oh, and she has Maiden powers because fuck you (to ensure she couldn't be defeated ever).

Nah it's more of a case of her dying and giving the powers to Yang because redemption and love all along.

Didn't one of the countries have a Faunus as a school director, which is not a small feat despite the alleged racism?

Lionheart. He was the headmaster at Haven academy in Mistral, and he worked with Salem. Apparently reluctantly because Cowardly Lion.

Does taking away the Ace-Ops and instead replacing them with team JNOR backing Ironwood over ideological difference with RWBY count? 'cus I swear the Ace-Ops ultimately don't do more than serve as named minibosses.

Nah, you can add more before having to go completely original. If anything, you've presented more character conflict than the show ever did.

Different scales: That guy became a supervillain by using experimental tech. The other betrayed humanity and sold himself to the Devil because of losing his wife to another.
Granted, villains have done worse for less, but it was hilarious to see how petty that guy was.

I believe the reason was jealousy over not getting credit. Kind of like Dr. Wily from Megaman.

Was she killed for good at some point?

Most we got was her frozen solid and falling into a pit at the end of V5. And then she came back.

How did the RWBY anime do it?

You mean RWBY: Ice Queendom? They mostly had it where it takes place in Weiss' headspace and everything is from a warped perspective. Other than that, pretty par for the course.

Was she? She didn't appear again I think. I think it was an excuse for Blake to take action.

I'm mostly joking. But you have to admit that Ilia was pretty easily redeemed. Honestly, most of V4 except for RNJR was the MCs sitting around feeling sorry for themselves before they got a kick in the ass to do something.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I tried to not remember that point, because it was obviously dumb and set-up for the villain to escape by crashing the ship. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I swear either Clove or Qrow was dumb enough to trust the psycho instead of joining together to defeat the bad guy, then making a Pikachu face when he kills the other and blames the survivor.

Don't forget Robyn being the main instigator who, with no actual context outside of some little girl she's known for like a day saying shit on a radio, just basically goes "The serial killer is right, we should fight in the airship, I don't know why you pussies are trying to talk it out or save this shit for after we've landed.". Qrow was literally saying that he wants to go and meet with Ironwood, which is what Clover was already saying they were going to do, only for Robyn to shoot at Clover with no provocation outside of Tyrian saying "We should just start the show already!".

I believe the reason was jealousy over not getting credit. Kind of like Dr. Wily from Megaman.

He says that he's pissy that Ironwood chose Penny over Watt's mechs and didn't appreciate Watts' genius... Even though Ironwood's clearly still using them?

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

There was some training scenes in V7. But if the idea was that they had gotten stronger traveling through Mistral or fighting WTCH and the Leviathan, then that wasn't displayed very well, if at all.

Ruby herself claims that the Ace-Ops trained them specifically, they know how to beat them.

But you have to admit that Ilia was pretty easily redeemed.

Ilia was basically introduced to get people to shut up about Adam by showing a "good" example of protesting, along with Sienna and Robyn.

Don't forget Robyn being the main instigator who, with no actual context outside of some little girl she's known for like a day saying shit on a radio, just basically goes "The serial killer is right, we should fight in the airship, I don't know why you pussies are trying to talk it out or save this shit for after we've landed.". Qrow was literally saying that he wants to go and meet with Ironwood, which is what Clover was already saying they were going to do, only for Robyn to shoot at Clover with no provocation outside of Tyrian saying "We should just start the show already!".

I love how around the same time the show tries to make Ironwood out to be this violent and paranoid man who thinks everyone is out to get him, Robyn is introduced and has very similar traits, yet she's a good guy for some reason.

 

[Chilson]

I love how around the same time the show tries to make Ironwood out to be this violent and paranoid man who thinks everyone is out to get him, Robyn is introduced and has very similar traits, yet she's a good guy for some reason.

They also in all their genius justified every bit of Ironwood's paranoia with Watts infiltration, Robyn stealing his shit and RWBY betraying him.

IRONWOOD DID NOTHING WRONG AND WE WILL STAN HIM UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE!!

 

[WitchOfDarkness]

Yeah, you can't tell me people only liked RWBY because it was a "technical novelty" with a straight face and still have entire threads and videos where people discuss its plots, characters, and ideas on how to improve the story.

I’m not even defending the show, even if it might sound like it. I’m just saying credit where credit is due — Monty did lay a good foundation. The anime clichés, flashy fight choreography, and anime girls definitely resonated with people.

The only difference is that most of us here admit it ended up being wasted potential, while RT fanboys are high on copium, insisting the show is great as is somehow.

 

[Deus Exica]

Is it though? DC has a long and storied history of making crossovers with many different IP's, some of which aren't even owned by WB and are even smaller than RWBY in terms of cultural impact. Its not a high bar

Also kind of a sign that they were on the chopping block because WB's got a big case with Batman in it that they break open for emergencies when they need something to make lots of money.

The funniest thing though is that Rooster teeth decided to bank on the heroes for DC rather than the villains, who are the actual moneymakers.

only for Robyn to shoot at Clover with no provocation outside of Tyrian saying "We should just start the show already!".

Hey, Robyn is Hillary Clinton in this universe, our Lord and savior who lost the election for our sins. Everything she does is objectively correct.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Clover was the one who died. Meanwhile, Qrow was working to stop a lunatic while also trying to evade arrest. And again, the only reason Qrow and Clover came to blows so much was because Tyrian was constantly dodging attacks and nudging Qrow and Clover into each other while doing so. Heel tactics to win a triple threat match.

I remember now. It was dumb as hell because Tyrian was no Joker and was blatantly obvious on what he was doing, but I suppose Qrow was half-concussed back then. It's not the worst part of V7...

There was some training scenes in V7. But if the idea was that they had gotten stronger traveling through Mistral or fighting WTCH and the Leviathan, then that wasn't displayed very well, if at all.

As seen here. Now I recall that Weiss won because her adversary refused to fight back, for extra hilarity.

Wasn't that the point of Yang and Raven's scene together in the V5 vault? To just have Yang completely tear apart Raven's narratives and views of the world and show that she's scared of a lot of things? And that idealism is better than being the cynical asshole douche Raven is?

Didn't recall that scene, and that would mean that the writers are willing to kill Raven, which I dunno if it happened later on, I stopped watching when Ironwood was proven right by RWBY being dumbasses.

Apparently reluctantly because Cowardly Lion.

Which annoyed me because that's not how the tale went. The Cowardly Lion is supposed to be courageous with self-doubts.

I believe the reason was jealousy over not getting credit. Kind of like Dr. Wily from Megaman.

There was a woman in the photo too, which likely mattered.

I love how around the same time the show tries to make Ironwood out to be this violent and paranoid man who thinks everyone is out to get him, Robyn is introduced and has very similar traits, yet she's a good guy for some reason.

Because she's a woman, duh. The wokeness was in full swing by then. Blake changed her hair to an ugly bun when she suddenly became lesbian for Yang. I also loved how the body of her ex was still warm when they turn to each other. Worse, the body was moved by the river in case they had to bring Adam back as a zombie, I suppose, but chances are that would be an idea too ambitious for the writing team.
Hell, RWBY Chibi was the best part of the franchise and the creator left in disgust.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Hell, RWBY Chibi was the best part of the franchise and the creator left in disgust.

Wait what? What's the story behind that?

which I dunno if it happened later on, I

Nah, Raven didn't die. All that happened was that she turned into her bird form and fucked off from the vault. The V5 stinger has Tai tending to his garden on Patch and scowling at a bird that flies overhead.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Wait what? What's the story behind that?


Nah, Raven didn't die. All that happened was that she turned into her bird form and fucked off from the vault. The V5 stinger has Tai tending to his garden on Patch and scowling at a bird that flies overhead.

Think Raven appeared in the animatic of the cut epilogue for Vol 9, revealing that she's been teleporting people to Vacuo. Presumably because, as the crossover tells us (it ain't canon, but it should be a good indicator of how the writers imagined the state of the setting at the time), Salem has overrun the rest of the world.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Presumably because, as the crossover tells us (it ain't canon, but it should be a good indicator of how the writers imagined the state of the setting at the time), Salem has overrun the rest of the world.

If the crossover is canon, this implies that the heroes are either too stupid ask the Justice League for help stopping Salem, or nobody in the Justice League is bothering to return their calls.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

If the crossover is canon, this implies that the heroes are either too stupid ask the Justice League for help stopping Salem, or nobody in the Justice League is bothering to return their calls.

The crossover isn't canon, I'm just saying that movie, which starts a few weeks after volume 9, most likely follows what the state of Remnant is from canon since it's not like the movie requires it to be that way at all.

But yeah, the Justice League have an entire directory of all existing multiverses, including Remnant, and traversing them is as simple as Green Lantern imagining a door; and no one asks the League if they can help with oncoming apocalypse in RWBY's world. Then again, considering how much the two movies hammer in that the Justice League are pussies who've never faced something as dangerous as the Grimm (Beacon Students confirmed can beat Superman?) and specifically sought team RWBY out because of that, maybe Team RWBY just think they wouldn't contribute anything.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Then again, considering how much the two movies hammer in that the Justice League are pussies who've never faced something as dangerous as the Grimm

Oh yeah, I forgot they did that solely to make Team RWBY look good by comparison. Wasn't there a scene where they compared fighting Grimm to surviving a school shooting?

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Newcomer 42]

Wait what? What's the story behind that?

It's unknown or at least I don't know, but the creator of RWBY Chibi was let go, possibly due to budget cuts. Before he left, he implied working at RT felt unpleasant.
The writers were probably seething at him, as some of his best jokes were about poking fun at RWBY's plot-holes, such as Mercury being held up at a metal detector for an airport and having to justify why he had metal legs when he didn't say it so at the school, The duo of psychos complaining they're stuck to their room all day while Cinder rants about EVIL! (complete with a board that had the word "EVIL" written on it along with her plans), only for the Team RWBY to storm in to salute their new neighbours, and when Blake asks what's in the board, Cinder stutters "Nothing EVIL!".

Think Raven appeared in the animatic of the cut epilogue for Vol 9, revealing that she's been teleporting people to Vacuo. Presumably because, as the crossover tells us (it ain't canon, but it should be a good indicator of how the writers imagined the state of the setting at the time), Salem has overrun the rest of the world.

Ah, so not only she doens't die but she had a change of heart with the whole "leading a bunch of murderous thieves" bit.

If the crossover is canon, this implies that the heroes are either too stupid ask the Justice League for help stopping Salem, or nobody in the Justice League is bothering to return their calls.

I wouldn't blame them, you know, the setting is terrible...

Oh yeah, I forgot they did that solely to make Team RWBY look good by comparison. Wasn't there a scene where they compared fighting Grimm to surviving a school shooting?

But lately it seems the JL is made to suck so that the crossover part looks better. They fight against Darkseid every other month, but Grimm are too hard? WTF?
Then agian, in the Sonic and DC comic crossover, the Flash and Reverse Flash are intentionally nerfed so that Sonic can outspeed them, kek.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

But lately it seems the JL is made to suck so that the crossover part looks better. They fight against Darkseid every other month, but Grimm are too hard? WTF?

They probably assumed that if the Justice League was even a fraction as competent as they normally are, Team RWBY would look like a bunch of buffoons by comparison.

 

[Newcomer 42]

They probably assumed that if the Justice League was even a fraction as competent as they normally are, Team RWBY would look like a bunch of buffoons by comparison.

Which they are, as seen in Vol. 5 or 6, forgot which. A bit sad that a team with Superman must be made to job so that the loser team can shine better. In fact, what can threaten Superman in RWBY? Other than Salem throwing a bunch of magic shit at him, he should be able to solo all Grimm in a day or two.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Which they are, as seen in Vol. 5 or 6, forgot which. A bit sad that a team with Superman must be made to job so that the loser team can shine better. In fact, what can threaten Superman in RWBY? Other than Salem throwing a bunch of magic shit at him, he should be able to solo all Grimm in a day or two.

Superman is historically weak to magic, not that he can't beat it just that it's a bad match up for him. I don't think he'd be able to solo every Grimm in a day or two just due to the fact there's an absolute shit ton of Grimm, not unless he's willing to take off the training weights and go all out which he almost certainly would not do, but realistically no one on team WTCH would even be able to threaten him and Salem would only really be able to (maybe) pull off a hostage gambit against him. Absolutely no huntress would be able to oppose him, he would absolutely run roughshod over the entire setting of Remnant. Really I think it would take him a week or two, maybe a couple months, but he would definitely clean up.

And even without Superman the JL still has Wonder Woman who is terminally underrated and could body absolutely anyone in the RWBY setting. Flash, who is for all intents and purposes the only League member who can stand toe-to-toe with Supes and not need some kind of bullshit to do it. Batman, who would have an absolute field day with Dust and the weird sci-fi tech that Remnant has given a bit of time to figure it out. And Green Lantern, who is also strong enough to absolutely fucking body anyone or anything on Remnant.

Even second stringers like Martian Manhunter or Hawkgirl would be an absolute force to be reckoned with within RWBY's universe.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Superman is historically weak to magic, not that he can't beat it just that it's a bad match up for him. I don't think he'd be able to solo every Grimm in a day or two just due to the fact there's an absolute shit ton of Grimm, not unless he's willing to take off the training weights and go all out which he almost certainly would not do, but realistically no one on team WTCH would even be able to threaten him and Salem would only really be able to (maybe) pull off a hostage gambit against him. Absolutely no huntress would be able to oppose him, he would absolutely run roughshod over the entire setting of Remnant. Really I think it would take him a week or two, maybe a couple months, but he would definitely clean up.

None of the Grimm use magic and I dunno how are Semblances considered regarding magic. The magical ladies or whatever they were called with generic magical powers could threaten him, perhaps... But, Supes in most versions is only a bit slower than Flash, so he could take out half of the opposition in moments. Granted, a day is exaggerating a bit, but he would work fast, especially if he doesn't bother punching the grimm and just throw them into space or something.
Salem might be more of a problem as she's immortal, but she probably would have some trouble if she was spaced.

And even without Superman the JL still has Wonder Woman who is terminally underrated and could body absolutely anyone in the RWBY setting. Flash, who is for all intents and purposes the only League member who can stand toe-to-toe with Supes and not need some kind of bullshit to do it. Batman, who would have an absolute field day with Dust and the weird sci-fi tech that Remnant has given a bit of time to figure it out. And Green Lantern, who is also strong enough to absolutely fucking body anyone or anything on Remnant.

Even second stringers like Martian Manhunter or Hawkgirl would be an absolute force to be reckoned with within RWBY's universe.

Also, this. The power level of the Justice League is MASSIVE. Five of the big names would take over Remnant in a matter of days.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Also, this. The power level of the Justice League is MASSIVE. Five of the big names would take over Remnant in a matter of days.

Hell even the Avengers would run rampant in Remnant. Hulk is the only one who can (kinda) stand with Supes, Flash, and Lantern. Thor fits in fairly comfortably with Wonder Woman I think. But Antman, Iron Man, and Wasp are third stringers at best when compared to the JL.

Salem might be more of a problem as she's immortal, but she probably would have some trouble if she was spaced.

Given that Batman would be there and given Remnant's high tech level he'd 100% be able to make some kind of superjail that would hold her forever.

Granted, a day is exaggerating a bit,

Actually it probably isn't for Flash now that I think about it. Remember the One Minute War?

Given relative power levels I'd say that most huntresses are probably slightly above Captain America level when it comes to power but he isn't one of the original Avengers so I didn't want to count him.