Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Probably the most egregious thing that Drinker said about FINAL RECKONING was that they were suddenly making Ethan Hunt a messiah figure when he had previously just been portrayed as a talented special agent. There's been a running theme since ROGUE NATION that Ethan is not just near superhuman but as almost mystical. They've literally been building up to this for half of the franchise
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What?

Seriously, what?!?

Richard, try to be less aggressively homosexual when you post, please.
 
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Irrespective of what we think of Eric July and Jon Del Arroz's comics, they have crowd funding figured out. They finish their comics prior to asking money for the comics.

The single largest obstacle to delivery of the comics is actually making it. If all that is left is sending it to the printer and distributing it, the room to fail is far less.
 
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MisterCH 86 said:
I remember when image first came out, Todd McFarland got the exact same treatment Eric July got for his writing in his books. He even had his own mob trying to get him to go out of business by saying the products are awful. If HE can survive all that I know for a fact Eric July can. Now all these people do is kiss Todd's ass, act like he's the best thing ever and call him a comic book God now. Oh and I'm sure you all knew this but Image is still around too. If Image can survive these tribalistic weirdos, I know Rippaverse can as well. Hell it's still doing better than anything CG is doing, and that's during the campaign....I do wonder how many people bought them after they ended, but I have seen quite a few new people like what they see when they did. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if ended up kissing Eric July's ass when this is all said and done. Meanwhile EVS and all the rest of his little goon squad are going to be nothing and end up lost in the void of obscurity.
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You can call me autistic all you want, you know I'm not wrong in anything I said. If he was going to fail he would have failed already, but over 75,000 books sold and over 2.6 million dollars made this year later.... yeah, good luck trying to convince me he's failing. The fan base is even growing too, and anyone that wants to pretend otherwise can either prove me wrong without pocket watching, because you don't know if any of them are new people that just got into them or not plus they don't include the post orders, or kindly keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. Thanks 👍
 
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MisterCH 86 said:
That's just gross. I'll never understand WHY they enjoy that crap.
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They enjoy degrading popular characters, in this case female characters. It's actually considered politically important to do that too by that gang. So much disgusting or stupid stuff in pop culture can be explained that way.

I hope that Gramsci is getting what he deserves in Hell.
 
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I’ve now seen the movie and yeah, it’s a really long and expensive nothing.

It’s not woke, or the worst thing ever (or even currently in theater), but it does not deserve the ball wash Richard is going to give it. I don’t want Tom Cruise to fail, but the whole movie is a tired “are we done yet” offering from elderly actors. They’re allowed to dislike it.

Tom Cruise won’t fuck you Richard, even if the gay rumors are true, he can do better than a stalker welfare queen.
 
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Mr Processor said:
They enjoy degrading popular characters, in this case female characters. It's actually considered politically important to do that too by that gang. So much disgusting or stupid stuff in pop culture can be explained that way.

I hope that Gramsci is getting what he deserves in Hell.
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So they really do hate women..... honestly with all the ugly and manly portrayals they do with them, plus how they make them unlikable, I'm not even surprised now.

MunsterCheeseJr said:
Irrespective of what we think of Eric July and Jon Del Arroz's comics, they have crowd funding figured out. They finish their comics prior to asking money for the comics.

The single largest obstacle to delivery of the comics is actually making it. If all that is left is sending it to the printer and distributing it, the room to fail is far less.
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You all have been saying Eric's books are bad all this time but I STILL can't see how they are. I mean what made people think that about Rippaverse books, but not Iconic? I'm actually curious. I read them over and over again and I STILL don't see how people can say they are bad. Is it because people don't like the guy who made them or what? The worst anyone can say about them is they were just ok, and by the logic certain people tell me "generic characters, weak storytelling, bad art ect." that would apply to ALL comics AND mangas at this point, because EVERYONE is based off of somebody else and every single story is weak in some way or another and as for art yeah... Mangas look extremely cartoony so let's not go there with that. So, a little help in an explanation please? I'm starting to think it's because he was a YouTuber, because that seems to be the biggest problem people have with him right now. Also Eric doesn't crowdfund, the products are already done before he gets the money.

Edit: honestly I just think that people don't like him or even JDA and call the books bad out of spite. But that's just me.
 
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MisterCH 86 said:
I read them over and over again and I STILL don't see how people can say they are bad. Is it because people don't like the guy who made them or what? The worst anyone can say about them is they were just ok
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to each their own, I've always maintained that to me his comics are mid, not total dogshit but nothing to write home about either. which is why richard's and EVS's never ending jihad against him to so much more retarded, they aren't "the room" of comics, they're just inoffensive generic slop. To try and turn them into this "uniquely bad threat to the medium" and dedicate your life to shitting on them like EVS and richard have is fucking mental.
 
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Delany's Donkey said:
to each their own, I've always maintained that to me his comics are mid, not total dogshit but nothing to write home about either. which is why richard's and EVS's never ending jihad against him to so much more retarded, they aren't "the room" of comics, they're just inoffensive generic slop. To try and turn them into this "uniquely bad threat to the medium" and dedicate your life to shitting on them like EVS and richard have is fucking mental.
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I can understand that, i mean yes the books are not terrible or flawless, but if you're going to call something generic you may as well apply that to Iconic or all the other indies as well. Like I said EVERYTHING is based off of something else at this point in time. I guess Iconic is generic slop as well, especially Kamen America. Personally I'm not a fan of mangas because they look too cartoony, and so far the only thing I found that I enjoy out of Iconic is Soulfinder.
 
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MisterCH 86 said:
I can understand that, mean yes the books are not terrible, but if you're going to call something generic you may as well apply that to Iconic as well. Like I said EVERYTHING is based off of something else at this point in time. I guess Iconic is generic slop as well, especially Kamen America.
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And Iconic and Kamen America might very well be generic also (they're so far outside my taste in comics I've never looked into them). Me calling them generic isn't meant to be a horrible insult on my part, mind you. it's just a description, i view a majority of comics mainstream and indi as "generic slop". it's the main reason i never bought any of CG's books, my taste in comics is fairly focused on a few established characters and it's hard for me to really get excited for new ones unless there's something really unique about them or the world they're in.

I'll use an example outside of EJ, in the first few waves of books to come out of CG there was a book called Englewood and this was it's pitch:
Corruption and Chicago are two words that go hand in hand. So what happens when a disgraced MMA champion stands up to the cycle of crime in his hometown? Enter the Windy City with Elijah Wallace, former MMA heavyweight champion of the world, martial arts teacher, and masked vigilante known as "The Saint of Englewood." Witness the origin of a man willing to challenge the murder capitol of the world, whose story shows how a hero is born in blood.
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this is what i would consider a generic comic. not bad, I'm sure people bought it and liked it and good for them, but just reading the description my only thought is "why should i read this over an older batman comic?"

EDIT: no shade meant @Micah Curtis
 
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Delany's Donkey said:
I'll use an example outside of EJ, in the first few waves of books to come out of CG there was a book called Englewood and this was it's pitch:

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this is what i would consider a generic comic. not bad, I'm sure people bought it and liked it and good for them, but just reading the description my only thought is "why should i read this over an older batman comic?"
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To speak as the writer, my goal with the series once I'm able to get it back up and running is to have more of the arcs have a more grounded feel. Have the hero deal with the gang issues of modern Chicago without being preachy about politics outside of common sense stuff. I have future arcs outlined that deal with political corruption, illegal firearm pipelines, gang-driven mass shootings, etc. There will still be some over the top stuff like ninjas (can't have street level comics without ninjas) and the greater setting that it's set in has a substantial demon problem so that'll come up, but the goal is to be largely more grounded without the political preachiness of the modern comic.

I understand the reservations, and maybe I need to work with some marketing people in the future to help with my sales pitch, but I hope at some point more people will give it a shot.
 
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Delany's Donkey said:
And Iconic and Kamen America might very well be generic also (they're so far outside my taste in comics I've never looked into them). Me calling them generic isn't meant to be a horrible insult on my part, mind you. it's just a description, i view a majority of comics mainstream and indi as "generic slop". it's the main reason i never bought any of CG's books, my taste in comics is fairly focused on a few established characters and it's hard for me to really get excited for new ones unless there's something really unique about them or the world they're in.

I'll use an example outside of EJ, in the first few waves of books to come out of CG there was a book called Englewood and this was it's pitch:

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this is what i would consider a generic comic. not bad, I'm sure people bought it and liked it and good for them, but just reading the description my only thought is "why should i read this over an older batman comic?"

EDIT: no shade meant @Micah Curtis
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Ok, I can respect that. Thank you for giving me a respectable AND believable answer. 👍 Outside the Rippaverse and Soulfinder, I'm a huge Hulk fan. I like how he struggles everyday with a mutation that is both a blessing and a curse.
 
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MisterCH 86 said:
Ok, I can respect that. Thank you for giving me a respectable AND believable answer. 👍 Outside the Rippaverse and Soulfinder, I'm a huge Hulk fan. I like how he struggles everyday with a mutation that is both a blessing and a curse.
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I prefer that over the X-men version where nearly every mutation is either power or outright godhood. "Our powers are a gift" they say in front of the kid who has a bird's face, fragile bones and no flight. Or the person with the power to kill everything they touch (there is many of those). We can talk gifts and blessings until the eagles choke but most of them are either freaks whose power does not make up for the inability to live a normal life or gods whose power comes with no side-effects. Easy for Storm to call her powers a gift but for many, they are just shit out of luck and would be better of with a cure that made them normal humans.
 
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Incecticyder said:
I prefer that over the X-men version where nearly every mutation is either power or outright godhood. "Our powers are a gift" they say in front of the kid who has a bird's face, fragile bones and no flight. Or the person with the power to kill everything they touch (there is many of those). We can talk gifts and blessings until the eagles choke but most of them are either freaks whose power does not make up for the inability to live a normal life or gods whose power comes with no side-effects. Easy for Storm to call her powers a gift but for many, they are just shit out of luck and would be better of with a cure that made them normal humans.
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I remember there was an issue of some X-book where Beast was getting shitty with Rogue for wanting a way to temporarily deactivate her powers explicitly because she was marrying Gambit and wanted to consumate the marriage with her new husband.

And Beast is just like, "Well some people want to force us not to be mutants!" and I was really hoping Rogue would remind him first hand why being able to turn off her powers would absolutely be a good thing, but alas, she just kinda goes with it, and then he just helps her anyway. They both managed to come off like retards.
 
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