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and they wouldn't even really notice the population changes
You're about 15 years late on that one bud, they're experiencing an enormous population crunch concentrated around working age populations. If they were able to conquer a place the human resource would be one of the biggest prizes.
 
China has 23 million tonnes of shipyard capacity compared to 100,000 tonnes in the USA. They are going to put over 100 modern blue water ships into the ocean in the next decade. They have more than enough capacity to swamp you until they get it right.
I don't think the navy is the kind of thing you want to go quantity over quality for. Ok, they put out 100 ships with green crews vs the metric fuck ton the US already has deployed. Also every ship sunk for the Chinese represents dozens or hundreds of families without a first born son to take care of them which is a major strain on their society.
 
The last time the PLA was in combat, they lost to Vietnam. I don't know the Chinese military but I wonder if they suffer the same corruption problems as the Arabs do in their militaries, plus the one child policy may have fucked up the soldiers.


Beyond the size of the military budget, the one-child policy’s creation of “little emperor syndrome” threatens the discipline and tenacity of the People’s Liberation Army. When over 70% of soldiers come from families in which the child was the sole pride and joy of two parents and four grandparents, the spoiled, entitled attitude presents a strategic vulnerability in combat.[vii] If true, this problem will not begin to subside for at least another 20 years even if reproductive patterns start changing as early as March when the policy will likely take full effect.

In addition to the impacts on the military itself, the one-child policy has created a contradictory dynamic for the overall likelihood of conflict. While countries with older populations tend to be more averse to war, having large populations of men with no prospects for marriage tends to contribute to the rise of violent conflict.[viii] China’s surplus of males will likely peak in the next twenty years with an estimated 40-50 million bachelors unable to find a wife.[ix] Without significant reforms in China’s welfare policies, the peak male surplus will likely coincide with massive domestic unrest as it struggles to figure out how to pay for the elder generations. The confluence of these trends could serve as a fatal spark for conflict, either internally or externally in order to distract from domestic unrest.
 
ohhh got any links?
I'm a little inebriated from the memorial day bbq and cant find the one I'm thinking of. An exterior door blew inward and they are using electric power tools while standing in water continuely failing to get the door closed alongside other errors.

1st: their third carrier is a 80,000 ton supercarrier.

2nd. They are building more

3rd: they will figure out the carrier knowledge no matter how many Wangs and Hans have to take a dip in the drink to do it.

Assuming we will always be at the top is how we lose our dominance. The Chinese are hellbent at closing the gap. They will if we don't get our shit together
I'm not disagreeing completely that the Chinese are attempting to catch up but I think you are being somewhat alarmist. Also the Chinese are gonna hit a massive demographic issue in the coming years so it will be interesting to see how that effects their naval build up plans alongside their overall long term plans.
 
I don't think the navy is the kind of thing you want to go quantity over quality for. Ok, they put out 100 ships with green crews vs the metric fuck ton the US already has deployed. Also every ship sunk for the Chinese represents dozens or hundreds of families without a first born son to take care of them which is a major strain on their society.

Their latest ships are quite good. And like I said, the Chinese can outproduce you in ships to a far greater extent then the USA could outproduce the Japanese in ww2.

They have more than enough depth to pay the butchers bill.
 
And conversely: China is perfecting mass producing the thing america grew tired of 30 years ago. Here's why they will take over the world.

Edit: More accurate.
The Chinese have a huge complex about the Korean War as mentioned earlier since it's the closest thing they can point to as a victory in their recent military history. It makes it doubly hilarious because all wumao discourse about their military prowess revolves around China automatically winning any future Pacific War 2.0 against America because they have more manufacturing and that's all that matters. Yet when they crow about 'victory' in Korea despite the fact that Communist China in 1950 had no manufacturing compared to America just getting off it's WW2 high, all of a sudden none of that matters and it all came down to the indomitable bugman spirit and the willingness to eat bitterness.
 
China has 23 million tonnes of shipyard capacity compared to 100,000 tonnes in the USA. They are going to put over 100 modern blue water ships into the ocean in the next decade. They have more than enough capacity to swamp you until they get it right.
23 million tons of ships built from Chinese steel is 23 million tons of artificial reef.
 

There are people on this forum who are both violently against Abortion and Niggers. You would think these kinds of statistics would define a necessary evil perfectly, yet the debate rages on. No. Taking the easy way out for negresses away from them won't slow them down. They will just drop the niglet off in a dumpster and move on.

The last time the PLA was in combat, they lost to Vietnam. I don't know the Chinese military but I wonder if they suffer the same corruption problems as the Arabs do in their militaries, plus the one child policy may have fucked up the soldiers.

To be fair, America lost to Vietnam as well. That's not a good meter stick.
 
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I'm not disagreeing completely that the Chinese are attempting to catch up but I think you are being somewhat alarmist. Also the Chinese are gonna hit a massive demographic issue in the coming years so it will be interesting to see how that effects their naval build up plans alongside their overall long term plans
You are calling the US Navy alarmist then. China is considered a peer adversery. Have you even heard of Force 2030? My neezy we have been pivoting to the pacific well even before Trump 1.
Are they? Why?
They want to take over the fucking world. They still got a bone to pick with Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, really they hate everything not named China.
 
Hypersonics is such a bullshit term that means literally nothing. Patriot can hit hypersonics, it was built to hit hypersonic weapons, because most big boy threats have been hypersonic for a long while now. What people really are worried about are smart, hypermanuverable weapons like it's fucking Ace Combat, of which not even the US can get working at hypersonic speeds thanks to the current limitations of material science. That said, there is some worry about extremely low flying air-breathing RAM jet type hypersonics. These can be a legitimate threat to ships, albeit the current mechanisms in place can, theoretically, deal with them. Doubly so since stealth-hypersonics are so ludicrously expensive and nearly impossible for everybody NOT the US to even think about trying.
You know what I mean, though. The new doctrine that the US, China, and Russia are trying out with missiles is speed uber alles. Making Ace Combat drones or fighters is harder than making a rocket that goes super fucking fast. As for materials science, the US government is doing some very interesting stuff at Argonne National Lab, the National Renewable Energy Lab, and the US Naval Research Lab. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the money earmarked for "renewables research" within the Department of Energy was meant to have downstream military applications.

Your point about stealth hypersonics is dead-on: neither China nor Russia has the money to build these things and, even when the US does produce them, we only make a handful because they're wicked expensive even for us.

The US government did some pretty whacky shit with materials science in the old Watertown Arsenal until the 1980's, most of which is still classified, and a lot of which gave a lot of locals mega-cancer, but that's more a factoid than anything else. It's still a superfund site.
IIRC, even though we do have anti-ICBM systems, we have so few of them that they would be ineffective in an actual nuclear shootout. I'm guessing the golden dome system would involve building much more of them.
That's sort of the problem. The main problem is Russia has thousands of warheads, they can always build more (the Soviets had an estimated 40,000 total in 1986), and at a certain point there is nothing you can do from a defensive perspective. Russia has the ~5,500 nukes in its current stockpile because that's more than enough to fucking annihilate the US if need be.

I guess it's a chicken or the egg thing. I used to know a guy who worked on the anti-ICBM systems developed by Raytheon. All I asked him was "well, does it work?" He said yeah, the system works, but not if Russia throws its entire nuclear arsenal at us all at once. It's capable of shooting down a few missiles from North Korea or Iran, but we can kiss our ass goodbye if Russia decides to send us their love. I think what Trump is doing is trying to upgrade the existing missile defense "infrastructure" (for a lack of better words) to put China on notice that its smaller stockpile isn't as toothy as it once was. Or maybe I'm a retard? I've been wrong before and this wouldn't be the last time, either.

Notice how Russia isn't making a stink about Golden Dome? All it did say was this could start an arms race in space and possibly violate the Space Treaty of 1967... which the US and Russia are signatories of. Then, a day later, they walked back the criticism. I don't think Russia cares because it still has its giant nuclear arsenal.
Unironically, look at the gays to see where 'consequence free' sex gets you as a culture. And it's a hard discussion, because yeah I think people should be able to choose (not in the abortion sense, different topic) when they are ready for kids, and kids are a big fucking responsibility so one should really think about it. But, without consequences to sex it becomes less important to people when it is really important not just for procreation, but for maintaining a healthy relationship with your partner and your own body.
Like all things it comes down to personal responsibility, a rarer thing these days it seems.
Listen, I'm not saying it's a great idea to go around having sex willy nilly without consequences. What I'm saying is that, at this point in the US, an unwanted pregnancy is completely avoidable. I expect people to have some personal responsibility. Use protection. Take the pill. Fuck her in the ass, I don't know, but everyone knows what happens when you jizz inside a woman's cunt and I do not feel sorry in the slightest for full-grown adults who suddenly have to face the consequences of their actions. If a complete idiot like me can figure out how to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, then anyone can do it.
 
I guarantee you every kid with a smart phone(all of them) know about them with and without planned parenthood or sex Ed. In fact, I never even had sex Ed as a kid. It was a one day course at my school and I had a doctor’s appointment and missed it. I still figured out all the info
Has anybody ever actually told a child how sex works? I'm sure they would figure it out themselves one way or another when they hit their teenage years. All you'd need to know is how to protect yourself if you want to have sex without wanting children.
 
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I think the biggest issue about kids is that Gen X were terrible, terrible parents who really fucked up the Millennials.
Boomers are the parents of millennial more than gen x, who are the parents of zoomers mostly. People are having fewer kids later and it's one of the odd side effects

But gen x just did boomer shit but worse unfortunately, culminating in milennials. At least there's less lead poisoning
 
It's been my assertion for a while now that most people can't handle the level of power judges have.

Once you can order people to die, serve life in prison, have all their property seized, ect you eventually go mad with power or ego and start thinking you're a God.

I don't know how to fix this either.
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The Chinese have a huge complex about the Korean War as mentioned earlier since it's the closest thing they can point to as a victory in their recent military history. It makes it doubly hilarious because all wumao discourse about their military prowess revolves around China automatically winning any future Pacific War 2.0 against America because they have more manufacturing and that's all that matters. Yet when they crow about 'victory' in Korea despite the fact that Communist China in 1950 had no manufacturing compared to America just getting off it's WW2 high, all of a sudden none of that matters and it all came down to the indomitable bugman spirit and the willingness to eat bitterness.
And most Americans don’t even know the Korean War happened.
 
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China has 23 million tonnes of shipyard capacity compared to 100,000 tonnes in the USA.
Isn't basically all of that meant for civilian shipping? China has to keep pumping out ships in order to keep it's foot on the back of world shipping. Do most of their shipyards even have capability to build or service Navy vessels?
 
Do most of their shipyards even have capability to build or service Navy vessels?
No. Shipping freighters are quite literally giant floating tubs, the easiest thing to build relative to tonnage. They need an engine, control center, and a crew quarters for maybe 20 people max. Then basic navigation. They're basically giant uhauls.
 
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