Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.6%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 55 12.0%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.9%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 153 33.3%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 111 24.2%

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    459
The court just found some week old Greer stuff it just remembered to file. Contains stuff about some loans he had in 2020 for some reason.

ECF 323, 324

You've got to appreciate that the clerk is so annoyed, he is starting to give up entering these on time.
I'd like to think it's due to the sheer amount of shit Russ emails to the Clerk; the Exchange server for the Court has finally determined his emails to be spam, and these were sitting in the Clerk's 'junk' folder for six or seven days. Even the Bayesian algorithm is sick of Russ' shit.

it’s crazy to assume russell greer understands what anything is. court rules, social cues, decorum, human interaction…. need i go on?
I said this a couple hundred pages ago - he is maliciously retarded; he knows he's different enough to use that to try and bully people into doing what he wants, but he's so fucking dumb he can't process the required steps to take when people don't just give in and (rightly) tell him to fuck off.

From the Nevada Revised Statutes:

EXTORTION

5.  To expose any secret,
Shit, he's going to let the cat out of the bag about Null's cheese habit, isn't he? Kiwibros....

What kind of arse-backwards mobile phone magically changes the word "emailed" into "subpoenaed"?!
An IPFone of course.

Seriously though, Shitlips, if your phone is auto-correcting 'email' to 'subpoena' that's a clear-cut sign you should probably fucking stop filing lawsuits at anything that moves (and won't suck you your penis).

Plaintiff meant to file a reasonable case, but never did.
Plaintiff meant to be a decent person, but couldn't be bothered.
 
To Greer:

Filings are for plightsperging
Footnotes are meant to error-splain.
Exhibits are screenshots.
Evidence is either non-sequitur nuggets or peripheral piffle
Emails are subpoenas.
Formatting is a waste of time.
Public records requests are stalking.
Discovery is any question you ask of any entity while engaged in litigation.
 
To Greer:

Filings are for plightsperging
Footnotes are meant to error-splain.
Exhibits are screenshots.
Evidence is either non-sequitur nuggets or peripheral piffle
Emails are subpoenas.
Formatting is a waste of time.
Public records requests are stalking.
Discovery is any question you ask of any entity while engaged in litigation.
Criticism is violence.
Whore-money is for whores only.
Spittle is a communication method.
 
I’m always guilty of applying my human logic to the legal system but it seems to me if lawyers have an obligation to quickly communicate settlement offers to their clients then the judge has an obligation not to sit on this with his gavel up his ass and instead he should quickly rule the email is not attorney eyes only.
 
I’m always guilty of applying my human logic to the legal system but it seems to me if lawyers have an obligation to quickly communicate settlements to their clients than the judge has an obligation not to sit on this with his gavel up his ass and instead he should quickly rule the email is not attorney eye’s only.
null said he won't settle because greer will want his thread and name removed from the site. in a normal case you do the settlement negotiations at the start. this zombie case will continue until dismissal
 
the thread has made paid much attention to the notion that greer regards the money (court costs and/or sanctions) that he owes as an undue "burden", but seeing this bit again as a recent exhibit, something occurred to me. greer vehemently denied (at ecf #315) that he stated that he could not pay the sanctions:
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yet all the way back in his objection to the magistrate judge's decision (over one hundred docket entries ago, at ecf #221), greer claimed that awarding the defense appropriate sanctions (which mr. hardin significantly undervalued) would have "the effect of dismissing the case":
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here's hoping that the court finally takes the opportunity to start imposing sanction(s) that truly do have such an effect.
 
I wonder why Greer thinks the judge has the power to tell us to stop making fun of him.
It worked in middle school.

Those definitely look like very real text messages and for sure prove Greer’s point.

When I was in Lawsuit School (30+ hours of Phoenix Wright on hard mode) I remember that federal courts work on the Trust Me Bro principle for evidence.
Beyond the fact that this is irrelevant to a copyright case,
but it IS relevant to IFP fraud,
And that the defendant is not responsible for the actions of anyone other than themselves,

... A partial screenshot of a document is obviously not evidence.

Greer should be told to properly subpoena -- at his own cost, although it is likely free to do -- his mobile phone company and ask for a proper CSV or PDF export of his communications with this user, which he will then provide unedited and unredacted to the court as an exhibit. Not a screenshot of this file. Not a segment of this file. The file, itself.

He won't cause:
1. that would cost money, and his money is for whorin', and it's an undue burden to ask him to stop whorin'
2. he couldn't hide the fact that he was claiming to have tons of money to the guy
3. he couldn't hide the fact that the guy told him to fuck off and leave him alone
 
edit: russell just can’t face the fact that without his internet popularity, however negative, he would be even worse off. he only has the noterietay he has because of all the negative attention, and he just wants to magically make all of it positive. the court, in his weak little mind, is his way of doing that. purely because he can’t undo everything he’s ever done.
Issue is same as always is it right to have a duty to forget in united states. ( no ,because point dodge accountability ) .
 
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Taking bets:
Do you think Mr Greer's settlement offer was more or less than the maximum fine amount that is sanctionable (at this time)?
Do you think he demanded admission of guilt?
I bet he said "take me off the Kiwi Farms or I will press charges against Mister Moon and YOU alleged lawyer Hardin, you stalker child!





Enjoy Prison
 
Taking bets:
Do you think Mr Greer's settlement offer was more or less than the maximum fine amount that is sanctionable (at this time)?
Do you think he demanded admission of guilt?
I think he wants his thread removed and 5K

ETA: What is Greer asking for in his extortion email should be a poll question.
 
Taking bets:
Do you think Mr Greer's settlement offer was more or less than the maximum fine amount that is sanctionable (at this time)?
Do you think he demanded admission of guilt?

The redacted area is pretty short. I think it was a reiteration of his previous settlement demand--"take down everything about me on KF and block my name with a script"--combined with a new threat, "or else I go to the cops with my iPhone screenshots of your emails".

Maybe he remembered to add "and cancel all sanctions" but I doubt he'd know how to phrase it.
 
Taking bets:
Do you think Mr Greer's settlement offer was more or less than the maximum fine amount that is sanctionable (at this time)?
Do you think he demanded admission of guilt?
What makes you think he offered to pay Null? That doesn't match the patron Saint of the Coomers' thought processes so far.

He probably offered to settle this for $5k, minus the $400 he had to pay to file it + the $750 or so he owes Null.

And yes, the settlement probably involved Null shutting down Coomer's thread for him, banning discussion about him, and maybe even banning all users who posted in either threads + giving Russ their info for future vexatious lawsuits.

But if Coomer is trying to get out of this lawsuit now, and he is, that's new behavior. He must either no longer be having fun doing this lawsuit, or is worried that Hardin is going to uncover something bad soon (likely related to real estate fraud of some kind), or it's violating the innate "other people waste time and money and I don't have to cause the legal system loves retards" "rule" that Coomer thinks the world runs on.
 
Greer should be told to properly subpoena -- at his own cost, although it is likely free to do -- his mobile phone company and ask for a proper CSV or PDF export of his communications with this user, which he will then provide unedited and unredacted to the court as an exhibit. Not a screenshot of this file. Not a segment of this file. The file, itself.

He won't cause:
1. that would cost money, and his money is for whorin', and it's an undue burden to ask him to stop whorin'
2. he couldn't hide the fact that he was claiming to have tons of money to the guy
3. he couldn't hide the fact that the guy told him to fuck off and leave him alone
4. All of the above.

I agree with you 100% with one exception - there is always the chance these comms are iMessages, meaning they are end to end encrypted and as such the carrier cannot see the contents. That would likely require cooperation from Mr. Huber to authenticate the communications, if we're operating under the assumption that Shitlips won't show the full true-and-honest text chain.
 
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