- Joined
- Mar 17, 2022
Pfft, I can't access formatting on mobile for some reason so forgive me for lack of examples, but he looks like Ian from the Game Grumps when he's doing that low-angle selfie and scrunching his neck to give himself a double chin.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
- Thread starter CowReserach Inc.
- Start date
God of Nothing
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2016
this is a fucking meme template waiting to be made
Gondolindrim
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Nov 5, 2020
The premise of the new Maul series is hilarious: Maul is our newest "badass" safe edgy antihero because being a murderous terrorist was cool but he apparently draws the line at Sidious' actual plan (which he knew about) to create a galactic empire. I guess he's mad that Sheev made a functional government instead of a bunch of guys with red lightsabers shrieking at each other and mass killing their subjects.
God of Nothing
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2016
They've run out of original ideas ages ago and are just giving every past major character their own series because StAr WaRs alWaYs SElLs
it's funny because it's proof the entire ST was just that fucking awful in how it gave the setting nothing and ruined it beyond repair
Gondolindrim
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Nov 5, 2020
And like I said a few pages ago, they are quickly running out of ways to milk the OT. Even the golden goose Andor is getting more flack than usual this time around.
LORD IMPERATOR
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Aug 4, 2020
Two things stick out to me after taking in the fanfare for Andor Season 2 and the upcoming Maul show. One is that they make the destruction of the Death Star and the start of the Rebellion to be such a hype thing, when that literally was just the soft part of the Rebellion. The part where both sides use subterfuge and aren't truly aware of each other. That changes after the Death Star explodes; the Empire goes on full total war mode, and starts using their numbers to go full Ulysses S. Grant on the Rebellion. That was when the real war started for the Rebellion, and they started to suffer massive losses.
Since Andor is part of Disney canon, it would also be in the same universe where the Rebellion's disastrous Mid-Rim Offensive happened. The Mid-Rim Offensive was when the Rebellion staged a massive galactic invasion of Imperial territory using all the fleets and resources it gained after the destruction of the Death Star. Entire battle groups and fleets of thousands of ships sped towards the Mid-Rim with the intended goal of liberating it from the Empire, then pushing on to the Core to liberate the galaxy and drive the Empire out.
Needless to say, it didn't go well. The Rebels were able to overcome some local Imperial riffraff before the Empire sent in their best fleets from the Core Worlds and crushed the fuck out of them. The Rebellion's pitiful offensive, far from mirroring the Separatists' rather successful string of victories in the early Clone Wars, ended rather abruptly and anti-climactically. Not only did the Empire stop them from fully taking the Mid Rim, but they even drove the Rebels out of the Mid Rim and into the Outer Rim, and continued to pursue them even there. The Rebels took massive losses, forcing them to hide on desolate worlds like Hoth, with the Empire continuing to go on as if nothing had happened.
All that malarkey about how there's a whole galaxy out there, ready to hate the Empire, how the people are beginning to awaken and rise up, to resist the Empire, and this "Rebellion" cracks under pressure the moment the Empire takes off the kid gloves. The Rebellion became the space equivalent of King Arthur's Knights from Monty Python and the Holy Grail; the moment a real foe emerged, they were sent running away.
The Rebellion in the original SWEU was no better. As Garm Bel Iblis said in one of his reasons for not joining the Rebellion in Dark Force Rising, "For a while, it seemed like every fifth Rebel base was being lost to the Imperials due to sheer sloppiness in security." (Dark Force Rising, pgs. 222-223) From what we see of the post-Yavin Rebellion in Legends, they won the odd victory, but in pitched battles, like the battle ON Yavin IV, the Empire crushed them and forced them to retreat. And even before that, the Empire drove off the Rebel forces on the Second Battle of Ord Biniir; a battle that was propagandized to hell and back by the Empire to make up for the loss of the Death Star, launching the career of Baron Sootir Fel, the famed Imperial fighter ace.
Most Rebel operations before Hoth and even some after Hoth were typically raids on Imperial installations or missions to evacuate important personnel. The Empire was perfectly capable of crushing them in pitched battles, and it did. Talay was lost to a squadron of General Rom Mohc's Dark Troopers. Reytha, an important agri-world that the Rebels managed to gain a strong foothold in, was lost to Darth Vader's forces when the latter launched a massive counter-attack. Zaloriis, a planet that rebelled against the Empire, was crushed decisively by Vader's forces, led by Colonel Maximilian Veers; it was that day Veers earned the rank of General thanks to Vader's support.
And we see in Empire Strikes Back that the Empire was still pursuing small, battered remnants of the Rebellion. The Empire displayed its full military might, with Star Destroyers, AT-AT walkers, TIE Fighters, and Stormtroopers everywhere. The Rebels were in full retreat; and the best they could do is hold off the Empire long enough to flee to another hiding place. Something like Hoth was not the occasional loss; it was the norm.
And what of the galactic society? Of the trillions upon trillions of people who live in civilized space? They still pay their space taxes, bow before their Emperor, and volunteer for their Empire. At the Empire's height of power, the largest component of that army are men and women who were ordinary citizens who signed on because they chose to. Not conscripted masses like the Imperial Guard from 40K, not clone or droid armies like in the Prequels, no, just regular men and women who believed that the Empire was right, and that signing up for them was the right thing to do.
Looks like all that crap Luthen passed around about forcing the Empire to show their true colors, all to make the people hate them, didn't pay off at all. The Empire showed their true colors on Alderaan; blowing up a planet just because they suspected its rulers of treason. Yet the countless mass of soldiers, pilots, and officers continued to serve the Emperor willingly; not because they were indoctrinated by magic technology like in Mass Effect with the Reapers, not because they had inhibitors like with the clones in TCW or the Imperial Agent in SWTOR; no, these are just regular Joes, punching a clock in, working for what they believed was right. And the people either supported them or looked away; few openly sought to resist them and join the Rebellion.
Even the Rebellion's military buildup between the battles of Hoth and Endor was due to the Emperor allowing them to build up strength, so they'd be foolish enough to waltz into a trap on Endor. Hence why he ignored the fleet buildup on Sullust, and he even let them destroy a protoype Super Star Destroyer on Fondor that had a cloaking device, to make the Rebels brave enough to engage the Emperor in an open battle. An open battle that he would've won, if it wasn't for his misstep with the Skywalkers.
Literally, the only reason the Rebels even win in the end, was because Vader grew a conscience and dunked the Emperor on a reactor pit in the Second Death Star after Palpatine tried to kill his son. Take that part out, and everything Mon Mothma sacrificed for, everything Luthen sacrificed for, everything Andor and Jyn sacrificed for, would've been for naught. The Emperor would've either re-focused his Battle Meditation and crushed the Rebels, or he'd have escaped the Death Star's destruction, rallied the Imperial fleet against the Rebels, and led them himself on a crushing crusade of vengeance until every last Alliance leader and soldier was dead.
Not to mention the fact that the Empire could easily rebuild the Death Star in a fraction of the time goes to show that blowing up the first one was, at most, a bug bite. It's the equivalent of blowing up the Lusitania or the Bismarck; sure, it's a massive drain in resources and talented personnel, but building another one isn't beyond them. I can imagine a "what-if" scenario of Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor escaping from Scarif before the blast from the first Death Star consumed them on a ship they hijacked, so they could rejoin the ranks of the Rebellion, only for them to shit their pants when Wedge Antilles and Crix Madine come to the Rebellion with news of a Second Death Star being built over the Forest Moon of Endor.
The second thing is about the whole Maul series. It's gotten to the point where they're making Darth Maul be the one to point out how fucked up the Empire is. A dude who literally massacred an entire village of innocents, even the kids. At least Anakin was crying on Mustafar after killing the Jedi Younglings and the Separatist council; Vader knew that what he did was wrong, and he mourned for the loss of innocent lives on his first day as a Sith Lord. But when Darth Maul did the same thing, he didn't even care. Someone who's that evil is going to judge the Empire? The thought makes me laugh.
Naturally, if I were to concoct a scenario for this show, it'll have Maul admiring how powerful, ruthless, and totalitarian the Empire is, and the one thing he'd hate about it is that he isn't the one barking orders. Hence why I wanted him to be the First Order's Supreme Leader instead. A being who spent the Galactic Civil War, observing the Empire at the height of its power, lusting after that power, only to see that Empire fall and its remnants driven to the far corners of the galaxy. This being, this student of the late Emperor, would seize the opportunity to present himself as the Empire's new leader, lending his expertise, his wisdom, and his power, in exchange for their absolute loyalty.
Since Andor is part of Disney canon, it would also be in the same universe where the Rebellion's disastrous Mid-Rim Offensive happened. The Mid-Rim Offensive was when the Rebellion staged a massive galactic invasion of Imperial territory using all the fleets and resources it gained after the destruction of the Death Star. Entire battle groups and fleets of thousands of ships sped towards the Mid-Rim with the intended goal of liberating it from the Empire, then pushing on to the Core to liberate the galaxy and drive the Empire out.
Needless to say, it didn't go well. The Rebels were able to overcome some local Imperial riffraff before the Empire sent in their best fleets from the Core Worlds and crushed the fuck out of them. The Rebellion's pitiful offensive, far from mirroring the Separatists' rather successful string of victories in the early Clone Wars, ended rather abruptly and anti-climactically. Not only did the Empire stop them from fully taking the Mid Rim, but they even drove the Rebels out of the Mid Rim and into the Outer Rim, and continued to pursue them even there. The Rebels took massive losses, forcing them to hide on desolate worlds like Hoth, with the Empire continuing to go on as if nothing had happened.
All that malarkey about how there's a whole galaxy out there, ready to hate the Empire, how the people are beginning to awaken and rise up, to resist the Empire, and this "Rebellion" cracks under pressure the moment the Empire takes off the kid gloves. The Rebellion became the space equivalent of King Arthur's Knights from Monty Python and the Holy Grail; the moment a real foe emerged, they were sent running away.
The Rebellion in the original SWEU was no better. As Garm Bel Iblis said in one of his reasons for not joining the Rebellion in Dark Force Rising, "For a while, it seemed like every fifth Rebel base was being lost to the Imperials due to sheer sloppiness in security." (Dark Force Rising, pgs. 222-223) From what we see of the post-Yavin Rebellion in Legends, they won the odd victory, but in pitched battles, like the battle ON Yavin IV, the Empire crushed them and forced them to retreat. And even before that, the Empire drove off the Rebel forces on the Second Battle of Ord Biniir; a battle that was propagandized to hell and back by the Empire to make up for the loss of the Death Star, launching the career of Baron Sootir Fel, the famed Imperial fighter ace.
Most Rebel operations before Hoth and even some after Hoth were typically raids on Imperial installations or missions to evacuate important personnel. The Empire was perfectly capable of crushing them in pitched battles, and it did. Talay was lost to a squadron of General Rom Mohc's Dark Troopers. Reytha, an important agri-world that the Rebels managed to gain a strong foothold in, was lost to Darth Vader's forces when the latter launched a massive counter-attack. Zaloriis, a planet that rebelled against the Empire, was crushed decisively by Vader's forces, led by Colonel Maximilian Veers; it was that day Veers earned the rank of General thanks to Vader's support.
And we see in Empire Strikes Back that the Empire was still pursuing small, battered remnants of the Rebellion. The Empire displayed its full military might, with Star Destroyers, AT-AT walkers, TIE Fighters, and Stormtroopers everywhere. The Rebels were in full retreat; and the best they could do is hold off the Empire long enough to flee to another hiding place. Something like Hoth was not the occasional loss; it was the norm.
And what of the galactic society? Of the trillions upon trillions of people who live in civilized space? They still pay their space taxes, bow before their Emperor, and volunteer for their Empire. At the Empire's height of power, the largest component of that army are men and women who were ordinary citizens who signed on because they chose to. Not conscripted masses like the Imperial Guard from 40K, not clone or droid armies like in the Prequels, no, just regular men and women who believed that the Empire was right, and that signing up for them was the right thing to do.
Looks like all that crap Luthen passed around about forcing the Empire to show their true colors, all to make the people hate them, didn't pay off at all. The Empire showed their true colors on Alderaan; blowing up a planet just because they suspected its rulers of treason. Yet the countless mass of soldiers, pilots, and officers continued to serve the Emperor willingly; not because they were indoctrinated by magic technology like in Mass Effect with the Reapers, not because they had inhibitors like with the clones in TCW or the Imperial Agent in SWTOR; no, these are just regular Joes, punching a clock in, working for what they believed was right. And the people either supported them or looked away; few openly sought to resist them and join the Rebellion.
Even the Rebellion's military buildup between the battles of Hoth and Endor was due to the Emperor allowing them to build up strength, so they'd be foolish enough to waltz into a trap on Endor. Hence why he ignored the fleet buildup on Sullust, and he even let them destroy a protoype Super Star Destroyer on Fondor that had a cloaking device, to make the Rebels brave enough to engage the Emperor in an open battle. An open battle that he would've won, if it wasn't for his misstep with the Skywalkers.
Literally, the only reason the Rebels even win in the end, was because Vader grew a conscience and dunked the Emperor on a reactor pit in the Second Death Star after Palpatine tried to kill his son. Take that part out, and everything Mon Mothma sacrificed for, everything Luthen sacrificed for, everything Andor and Jyn sacrificed for, would've been for naught. The Emperor would've either re-focused his Battle Meditation and crushed the Rebels, or he'd have escaped the Death Star's destruction, rallied the Imperial fleet against the Rebels, and led them himself on a crushing crusade of vengeance until every last Alliance leader and soldier was dead.
Not to mention the fact that the Empire could easily rebuild the Death Star in a fraction of the time goes to show that blowing up the first one was, at most, a bug bite. It's the equivalent of blowing up the Lusitania or the Bismarck; sure, it's a massive drain in resources and talented personnel, but building another one isn't beyond them. I can imagine a "what-if" scenario of Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor escaping from Scarif before the blast from the first Death Star consumed them on a ship they hijacked, so they could rejoin the ranks of the Rebellion, only for them to shit their pants when Wedge Antilles and Crix Madine come to the Rebellion with news of a Second Death Star being built over the Forest Moon of Endor.
The second thing is about the whole Maul series. It's gotten to the point where they're making Darth Maul be the one to point out how fucked up the Empire is. A dude who literally massacred an entire village of innocents, even the kids. At least Anakin was crying on Mustafar after killing the Jedi Younglings and the Separatist council; Vader knew that what he did was wrong, and he mourned for the loss of innocent lives on his first day as a Sith Lord. But when Darth Maul did the same thing, he didn't even care. Someone who's that evil is going to judge the Empire? The thought makes me laugh.
Naturally, if I were to concoct a scenario for this show, it'll have Maul admiring how powerful, ruthless, and totalitarian the Empire is, and the one thing he'd hate about it is that he isn't the one barking orders. Hence why I wanted him to be the First Order's Supreme Leader instead. A being who spent the Galactic Civil War, observing the Empire at the height of its power, lusting after that power, only to see that Empire fall and its remnants driven to the far corners of the galaxy. This being, this student of the late Emperor, would seize the opportunity to present himself as the Empire's new leader, lending his expertise, his wisdom, and his power, in exchange for their absolute loyalty.
Hey, they've already made terrorism look cool in Rebels and Andor, so why not go the extra mile and have an open criminal warlord be the lesser of two evils as opposed to the Empire?
Last edited:
GlupShitto
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Jul 31, 2021
I'm surprised by the Squadrons hate. I didn't like some of the story mode decisions (pushing a they/them troon and making an ugly alien chick instead of a hot one are my two biggest complaints), but it was a pretty great game.
- Joined
- Aug 3, 2023
That right there is enough for me to completely write off a game as trash right from the start. I have no interest spending any of my free time on something made by people who would push this kind of thing in their game. If they are pushing that then it speaks volumes of the quality of everything else in the game. The game is toxic.
- Joined
- Apr 28, 2021
Peak High Republic dialogue.
- Joined
- May 13, 2020
I'm not sure if I already said this, but I still find it strange and random that somehow Maul magically got his double-bladed lightsaber back from the Mandalore Arc (reminder that it fell all the way down into the abyss) and it wouldn't make sense for him just to return there and retrieve it. And supposedly this is how he get the Inquisitor lightsaber from Rebels despite already having a lightsaber shown in this image.
Sure Marrok could cut it off, but that still wouldn't make any sense since he is using the half lightsaber that Obi-Wan cut off and it still work fine.
Sure Marrok could cut it off, but that still wouldn't make any sense since he is using the half lightsaber that Obi-Wan cut off and it still work fine.
Sorry to remind you that Maul was defeated by Ahsoka.
- Joined
- Apr 28, 2021
- Joined
- Aug 22, 2020
I don't wanna appreciate digital filming equipment though
Henry V
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Oct 6, 2021
I started watching S2 of Andor last night, and since I enjoyed S1, my expectations were hopeful. I'm pretty much spoiled for the major plot points that come up later, but other than that, I'm going in blind. I got to the beginning of episode 4, and so far, the writing quality seems to have declined, at least in these first few episodes. Specifically, the fact that I just watched three episodes of straight exposition, there was little to no tension, and no direction so far.
I was a few beers deep, and I couldn't stop laughing at the fact that the Galactic Empire would care so much about illegal immigrants on an outer-rim farming world. How does immigration work in the Star Wars Universe? If you have the money, you can travel anywhere essentially, and if you can't and have to pay for another person to transport you, like a commercial flight, the empire could simply stop you at a spaceport if you had a space warrant, etc.
Yes, they could write up any excuse for the sake of the plot. On the other hand, they could've just made the audit/census check workers for warrants/records, and gone from there. It's implied that the planet has a labor shortage, so why would materalistic autocratic imperials give a shit about immigration status unless the worker was a criminal/rebel? It just felt so forced; it took me out of any of the tension during the scenes on the farming planet.
All I could think about was some reddit/twitter post I saw where some retard commenting on an ICE video said, "Look how quickly they take to walking around like STORMTROOPERS!!!". I guess Disney decided to make that a reality in this show, and start pushing down on the director to add more direct SJW slop, since the blatant lazy messaging wasn't a thing in S1.
I was a few beers deep, and I couldn't stop laughing at the fact that the Galactic Empire would care so much about illegal immigrants on an outer-rim farming world. How does immigration work in the Star Wars Universe? If you have the money, you can travel anywhere essentially, and if you can't and have to pay for another person to transport you, like a commercial flight, the empire could simply stop you at a spaceport if you had a space warrant, etc.
Yes, they could write up any excuse for the sake of the plot. On the other hand, they could've just made the audit/census check workers for warrants/records, and gone from there. It's implied that the planet has a labor shortage, so why would materalistic autocratic imperials give a shit about immigration status unless the worker was a criminal/rebel? It just felt so forced; it took me out of any of the tension during the scenes on the farming planet.
All I could think about was some reddit/twitter post I saw where some retard commenting on an ICE video said, "Look how quickly they take to walking around like STORMTROOPERS!!!". I guess Disney decided to make that a reality in this show, and start pushing down on the director to add more direct SJW slop, since the blatant lazy messaging wasn't a thing in S1.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Apr 1, 2025
The tartovsky clone wars, despite it's highly stylized nature, is a far better interpretation across the board of the clone wars and one that fits better with the prequel films. I really wish we could have had more of that.
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2018
Sequel Trilogy fans trying to act like their slop is deep
Like the movie would be interesting if this was an actual theme in it, but it really isn't.
The reason the First Order are Empire 2.0 is because Force Awakens was made to pander to OT fans as well as introduce Star Wars to China by rehashing the same shit. That's why TFA is just A New Hope but bigger, like it is just the same story but with added in nostalgia pandering of making heroes into failure old losers which is common now in legacy sequels and random mystery boxes JJ expected the directors of the next two movies to figure out for him.
Any political meaning TFA had is accidental.
Like the movie would be interesting if this was an actual theme in it, but it really isn't.
The reason the First Order are Empire 2.0 is because Force Awakens was made to pander to OT fans as well as introduce Star Wars to China by rehashing the same shit. That's why TFA is just A New Hope but bigger, like it is just the same story but with added in nostalgia pandering of making heroes into failure old losers which is common now in legacy sequels and random mystery boxes JJ expected the directors of the next two movies to figure out for him.
Any political meaning TFA had is accidental.
- Joined
- Jan 23, 2022
??? When the f-ck was Darth Maul ever political/pro-Empire? He didn't choose to align with Papaltine 'cause he agreed with him ideologically, Papaltine literally kidnapped a tweenage Darth Maul to be his Sith apprentice 'cause Papaltine wanted to spite Maul's mom, leader of the Dathomir Nightsisters (or is that now Legends canon? I really don't give af to look up what's canon anymore...)
Heck, in Clone Wars (which I think is still canon?), wasn't Darth Maul and his brother specifically working to stop Papaltine? Did Filoni forget that scene he wrote, where Darth Maul asks
The only good thing that might come of this show is maybe some cool Darth Maul merch might get released. Like most Prequel trilogy characters, Disney has severely neglected him when it come to merch releases.
- Joined
- Apr 1, 2025
>"You have to work to keep facism down"
>New republic immediately disbands the military
>Progressives cheer that narrative choice on because the army is mean
No IP will ever be good again if these people are even remotely involved in it.
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2018
I don't even think general audiences know that choice, like all the lore building up what happened between epsiodes 6 and 7 is just in lore videos and shit. When people watched the Sequels they vaguely knew a "New Republic" existed but didn't know shit how it was run.
- Joined
- Apr 1, 2025
Indeed, i was confused as fuck watching TFA for the first time. But i'm sure whoever made that shit ass meme saw mando season 3 (or was it bobf? Whatever that imperial reeducation shit was in i can't even remember) and saw the part about how the new republic was dismanteling the navy and military and i remember leftists saying that was stunning and brave. Apparently you can keep down facism by doing yoga and spreading sage and cutting your cocks off.
- Joined
- Sep 3, 2014
Or maybe it took the very simple Hero's Quest to kill the big bad guy idea that the first of these movies really was and reheated it because George went more for vibes of the Monomyth than screeching politics at that time and they threw out two different scripts essentially to do it under Jar Jar Abrams.
Also even if it's the case, the sequels and RatCo slop also says that it's fine to blast out the Dark Side so long as the Sith never touched it, It has routinely shown that democracy is retarded and doomed to fail, since RatCo's shit showed that no matter what the Galactic Republic was doomed to be run by evil retards in corpo pockets or whatever. Which hey true, that means demolish and rip apart Disney by this logic oh wait.
It also shows that dictatorship is retarded and doomed to self implode due to one man fucking holding it and failing. Sheev failed twice even when the alleged protagonists attempted as hard as possible to self sabotage and shoot themselves in the fucking head. His one last hope was a fat blue dude who was trained wrong on purpose and thinks getting sodomized and watching your loth cat get eaten is a win.
It also shows that whatever garbage belief they have is wrong thanks to RatCo signing off on Andor and they want to be Sturmabteilung goons so bad probably. Your professional shitstirrers were fuck ups that spedrun deaths and asset loss. All ideologies and philosophy in all stripes is dumb, wrong, and gay thanks to RatCo.
Nothing with thoughts or cognition deserve life in that universe. All this proves to me is that the galaxy should just be annihilated in some Great Filter. Nuke sapience to nothing.
Essentially this, and he'd have almost certainly been loyal for a good while to Creamy Sheev and the New Order. He wasn't really that much of a thinker, as hard as Dave tried to glow him up with dialogue. There's a reason he was taciturn before that incompetent sub-fanfic writer mangled him.
He hates Sidious so damn much because man replaced him and set him up to die in his mind. It was specifically realizing that he was a replaceable tool that made him hate Palpatine that much.