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I'm not sure if I already said this, but I still find it strange and random that somehow Maul magically got his double-bladed lightsaber back from the Mandalore Arc (reminder that it fell all the way down into the abyss) and it wouldn't make sense for him just to return there and retrieve it. And supposedly this is how he get the Inquisitor lightsaber from Rebels despite already having a lightsaber shown in this image.
Sure Marrok could cut it off, but that still wouldn't make any sense since he is using the half lightsaber that Obi-Wan cut off and it still work fine.
Sure Marrok could cut it off, but that still wouldn't make any sense since he is using the half lightsaber that Obi-Wan cut off and it still work fine.
Sorry to remind you that Maul was defeated by Ahsoka.
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I don't wanna appreciate digital filming equipment though
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I started watching S2 of Andor last night, and since I enjoyed S1, my expectations were hopeful. I'm pretty much spoiled for the major plot points that come up later, but other than that, I'm going in blind. I got to the beginning of episode 4, and so far, the writing quality seems to have declined, at least in these first few episodes. Specifically, the fact that I just watched three episodes of straight exposition, there was little to no tension, and no direction so far.
I was a few beers deep, and I couldn't stop laughing at the fact that the Galactic Empire would care so much about illegal immigrants on an outer-rim farming world. How does immigration work in the Star Wars Universe? If you have the money, you can travel anywhere essentially, and if you can't and have to pay for another person to transport you, like a commercial flight, the empire could simply stop you at a spaceport if you had a space warrant, etc.
Yes, they could write up any excuse for the sake of the plot. On the other hand, they could've just made the audit/census check workers for warrants/records, and gone from there. It's implied that the planet has a labor shortage, so why would materalistic autocratic imperials give a shit about immigration status unless the worker was a criminal/rebel? It just felt so forced; it took me out of any of the tension during the scenes on the farming planet.
All I could think about was some reddit/twitter post I saw where some retard commenting on an ICE video said, "Look how quickly they take to walking around like STORMTROOPERS!!!". I guess Disney decided to make that a reality in this show, and start pushing down on the director to add more direct SJW slop, since the blatant lazy messaging wasn't a thing in S1.
I was a few beers deep, and I couldn't stop laughing at the fact that the Galactic Empire would care so much about illegal immigrants on an outer-rim farming world. How does immigration work in the Star Wars Universe? If you have the money, you can travel anywhere essentially, and if you can't and have to pay for another person to transport you, like a commercial flight, the empire could simply stop you at a spaceport if you had a space warrant, etc.
Yes, they could write up any excuse for the sake of the plot. On the other hand, they could've just made the audit/census check workers for warrants/records, and gone from there. It's implied that the planet has a labor shortage, so why would materalistic autocratic imperials give a shit about immigration status unless the worker was a criminal/rebel? It just felt so forced; it took me out of any of the tension during the scenes on the farming planet.
All I could think about was some reddit/twitter post I saw where some retard commenting on an ICE video said, "Look how quickly they take to walking around like STORMTROOPERS!!!". I guess Disney decided to make that a reality in this show, and start pushing down on the director to add more direct SJW slop, since the blatant lazy messaging wasn't a thing in S1.
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The tartovsky clone wars, despite it's highly stylized nature, is a far better interpretation across the board of the clone wars and one that fits better with the prequel films. I really wish we could have had more of that.
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Sequel Trilogy fans trying to act like their slop is deep
Like the movie would be interesting if this was an actual theme in it, but it really isn't.
The reason the First Order are Empire 2.0 is because Force Awakens was made to pander to OT fans as well as introduce Star Wars to China by rehashing the same shit. That's why TFA is just A New Hope but bigger, like it is just the same story but with added in nostalgia pandering of making heroes into failure old losers which is common now in legacy sequels and random mystery boxes JJ expected the directors of the next two movies to figure out for him.
Any political meaning TFA had is accidental.
Like the movie would be interesting if this was an actual theme in it, but it really isn't.
The reason the First Order are Empire 2.0 is because Force Awakens was made to pander to OT fans as well as introduce Star Wars to China by rehashing the same shit. That's why TFA is just A New Hope but bigger, like it is just the same story but with added in nostalgia pandering of making heroes into failure old losers which is common now in legacy sequels and random mystery boxes JJ expected the directors of the next two movies to figure out for him.
Any political meaning TFA had is accidental.
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??? When the f-ck was Darth Maul ever political/pro-Empire? He didn't choose to align with Papaltine 'cause he agreed with him ideologically, Papaltine literally kidnapped a tweenage Darth Maul to be his Sith apprentice 'cause Papaltine wanted to spite Maul's mom, leader of the Dathomir Nightsisters (or is that now Legends canon? I really don't give af to look up what's canon anymore...)
Heck, in Clone Wars (which I think is still canon?), wasn't Darth Maul and his brother specifically working to stop Papaltine? Did Filoni forget that scene he wrote, where Darth Maul asks
The only good thing that might come of this show is maybe some cool Darth Maul merch might get released. Like most Prequel trilogy characters, Disney has severely neglected him when it come to merch releases.
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>"You have to work to keep facism down"
>New republic immediately disbands the military
>Progressives cheer that narrative choice on because the army is mean
No IP will ever be good again if these people are even remotely involved in it.
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I don't even think general audiences know that choice, like all the lore building up what happened between epsiodes 6 and 7 is just in lore videos and shit. When people watched the Sequels they vaguely knew a "New Republic" existed but didn't know shit how it was run.
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Indeed, i was confused as fuck watching TFA for the first time. But i'm sure whoever made that shit ass meme saw mando season 3 (or was it bobf? Whatever that imperial reeducation shit was in i can't even remember) and saw the part about how the new republic was dismanteling the navy and military and i remember leftists saying that was stunning and brave. Apparently you can keep down facism by doing yoga and spreading sage and cutting your cocks off.
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Or maybe it took the very simple Hero's Quest to kill the big bad guy idea that the first of these movies really was and reheated it because George went more for vibes of the Monomyth than screeching politics at that time and they threw out two different scripts essentially to do it under Jar Jar Abrams.
Also even if it's the case, the sequels and RatCo slop also says that it's fine to blast out the Dark Side so long as the Sith never touched it, It has routinely shown that democracy is retarded and doomed to fail, since RatCo's shit showed that no matter what the Galactic Republic was doomed to be run by evil retards in corpo pockets or whatever. Which hey true, that means demolish and rip apart Disney by this logic oh wait.
It also shows that dictatorship is retarded and doomed to self implode due to one man fucking holding it and failing. Sheev failed twice even when the alleged protagonists attempted as hard as possible to self sabotage and shoot themselves in the fucking head. His one last hope was a fat blue dude who was trained wrong on purpose and thinks getting sodomized and watching your loth cat get eaten is a win.
It also shows that whatever garbage belief they have is wrong thanks to RatCo signing off on Andor and they want to be Sturmabteilung goons so bad probably. Your professional shitstirrers were fuck ups that spedrun deaths and asset loss. All ideologies and philosophy in all stripes is dumb, wrong, and gay thanks to RatCo.
Nothing with thoughts or cognition deserve life in that universe. All this proves to me is that the galaxy should just be annihilated in some Great Filter. Nuke sapience to nothing.
Essentially this, and he'd have almost certainly been loyal for a good while to Creamy Sheev and the New Order. He wasn't really that much of a thinker, as hard as Dave tried to glow him up with dialogue. There's a reason he was taciturn before that incompetent sub-fanfic writer mangled him.
He hates Sidious so damn much because man replaced him and set him up to die in his mind. It was specifically realizing that he was a replaceable tool that made him hate Palpatine that much.
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Page rates for non-celebrity pencillers on comics are awful right now, maybe $250 if you have a track record of working well with writers and turning in work on time, more like $100 for the stable of European and Filipino nobodies that Marvel outsources most of the Star Wars stuff to. No one is buying Star Wars comics to look for advances in the art of drawing comic books so you get the bottom of the barrel. If you're an American and can complete work for hire efficiently you will make more money as the 17th-ranking anonymous man on the totem pole at the graphic design department of an ad agency, and if you're on the higher end of the second tier guys who do stuff like comics you're going to be put on X-Men or something like that, because there's plenty of guys who can do the six years out of date Star Wars adaptation where the quality of the art literally could not matter less.
If you work on a popular superhero book you also get a giant secondary income stream from showing up at conventions and autographing things, and royalties on characters you create who are used in future comics or movie adaptations. With Star Wars you get none of that, the fans don't really care about the comics and don't turn the artists into celebs and there is absolutely no ownership stake whatsoever. So the market always sorts the better creators away from licensed properties, even though Star Wars comics are some of the best selling titles.
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The Bad Batch show displayed that the Empire forced everyone to register themselves and their chain-code to allow for safe passage. Anyone without proper identification would not be allowed to travel on a ship or through a spaceport.
That, and it makes perfect sense for the Empire to check for illegal immigrants, because there is a rebellion against them going on, and illegals could be rebels in disguise, hiding in plain sight. Which, in the case of Bix and her friends, is exactly what's going on. If that rapist Imperial officer did his job, he'd lock Bix up along with her friends, because not only are they border-jumpers without the proper paperwork, they're traitors, as well.
The canonical position of the old EU is that neither the Dark nor the Light Sides of the Force are innately good nor evil, but what you use them for is what counts, hence why Starkiller went to Space Heaven while Palpatine's soul rotted in Space Hell, despite the fact that they both spam Force Lightning like there's no tomorrow. Luke Skywalker also used his dad's signature Force Choke on the Gamorreans, despite his soul being closer to the Light than even Yoda or Ben Kenobi ever were.
To be fair, that's the same case with the Republic in the SWEU; it's practically thanks to the Jedi that the Republic didn't fall apart, but the Republic turned a blind eye to Czerka enslaving the Wookiees, and they also turned a blind eye when the Trade Federation was running around, ravaging worlds for profit. They only cared about Naboo because that world had a senate seat, so they were forced to care.
The only time the Republic was shown to be decisive and good was during the SWTOR era, when they were under military law with the Jedi leading them, but even then, you had a lot of rotten apples underneath, from the Republic using Belsavis as a prison for political enemies, to the corrupt chancellor who tries to upstage the Alliance Commander.
I'm sure that was the failing of the old Empire as well, to the point where most of the Empire's forces were lost in a civil war after Palpatine died on Endor, since there were no legitimate successors strong enough to hold the throne.
Except this time, the blue dude in the old SWEU was actually smart and was able to hold the fort long enough until Sheev returned in Dark Empire.
Basically, the main difference in the Rebellion between the old canon and the new. The old Rebellion didn't want to needlessly sacrifice people, and they tried their best to preserve their assets as much as possible, because they knew the numbers game wasn't on their side. Far unlike the Andor rebels where they couldn't care less if entire populations died fighting the Empire, so long as they have a byline for Mon Mothma to use.
The old Rebellion in the OT and the SWEU were the conservative reactionaries who didn't like how Palpatine was rocking the boat, depowering the old Senatorial aristocracy and getting rid of the established Jedi Religion. The new Rebellion in Andor are Marxist revolutionaries who wouldn't give a shit if half the galaxy died just so they can "show the galaxy the Empire's true colors." Not to mention Andor himself saw Force-users as scum; with him calling that one Force-user on Yavin a kook, thinking that her powers were a sham.
Notice how the Andor show tried to make the Rebel Alliance proper (represented by that general on Yavin IV who didn't like Andor just coming and going) look like assholes. And how a lot of Andor fans are trying to make the old Rebels from the OT look like credit-stealing jackasses. The old Rebellion wasn't radical enough in their eyes, when they missed the point entirely; the Rebellion was trying to restore old traditions, not upend them.
Ironically, this is a practice in redudance; they didn't need to make the Rebels gray when Saw Gerrera already exists as a darker shade of gray among the Rebels. The other Rebels can retain their shining knight status, while Saw plunges his hands into the filth, so that others can keep theirs clean.
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In the post-RotJ EU it's basically the military and the Jedi that are the only competent forces in the New Republic too. The Senate is as full of retards as in the Old Republic, the bureaucracy is way up the Senate's ass. The New Republic is best understood as a benevolent behind-the-scenes military junta with the Jedi less a formal part of the power structure than in the Old Republic, because Luke wasn't interested in political power. While Yoda and the old Jedi Order ran the show until Palpy was like wtf the 'Republic' is a Jedi tyranny
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My point exactly. The Rebels could've done better by just placing Leia on Palpatine's throne and forcing all the Moffs to go along with it. She's got every blood right to it (her dad was Darth Vader and her mom was Emperor Palpatine's former master) and it would be a good compensation for Tarkin blowing up her planet.
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The differences between Luke's Jedi Order and the old Jedi Order seen in the prequels are very underappreciated in the EU. You have people, George Lucas included, that envision Luke's Jedi Order as being the exact same thing as the one seen in the prequels and it just doesn't work out for a story when you do it like that. Luke tried to have some form of separation from the Republic instead of trying to be a main fixture of the political structure like the old order, Luke made sure his Jedi Temple was in the wilderness woods of Yavin instead of the industrial giant city of Coruscant, Luke allowed the Jedi to form relationships and feel human as opposed to the old order that stripped the humanity from the Jedi (this one is the biggest one imo).
It's very important so you have a sense of progress in the story of the Jedi and Skywalkers instead of being in an endless loop of the same mistakes over and over again.
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Aside from the no marriage thing, I'm sure even Lucas doesn't want Luke to repeat the same mistakes of the Old Republic. The PT Jedi were depicted to be flawed, hypocritical, un-empathetic, and unaware of the great evil sitting right in front of them. Repeating their mistakes is something Lucas would be against. Especially since in ROTJ he proved the Jedi to be wrong about Luke being able to redeem Vader; Yoda and Kenobi wrote Anakin off as a lost cause, Luke decided otherwise, and Lucas had the latter get his cake and eat it, too.
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I wish we got the Luke from post-RotJ EU instead of the one from Episode 7. I'd take Jedi Jesus over some old fart that went out with a whimper like the rest of the old characters.
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I actually remember a fanfic story where they did something like that, though it was to Luke since Vader and so on didn't know Leia was his daughter at the time he wrote contingencies for if he dies. It's a damn shame it died, much like how it sucks so many idiots want to pretend RatSlop is canon.
Also extremely optimistic on the idea that the Moffs would collectively just suck it up and bow to a crowned figure, even if it's by blood. They were brought into a power hoarding structure and it was clear that successors in said empire were not via blood, but by a mixture of loyalty to the New Order, ambition, and then talent.
It'd just cause successor wars IMO, and you'd have parts of the Alliance to Restore the Republic actively flip and keep going.
Clean up was always going to be a big bitch to deal with.