hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

[AMHOLIO]

I may one day begin to simplify and explain esoterics and Western mysticism, because the keys to understanding the wheel of time are all in there. Once you see what the symbols mean and how they are connected, you can start to understand what God is, and how the numerous unchangeable characteristics of the physical world (like gravity and the periodic table) are conscious as well as physical.

Once you see this, you can then understand that "sin" is not "when you break daddy's rules," but rather "when you're so stupid that you think you can escape gravity, so you jump off a building." The rules are the rules, and there is no "someone" to argue with about them. You either walk into a wall or around it.

I'm trying to figure out what to say but all I can think of is "dumb." A bro-code explanation of the universe's laws would be a joke on a TV show, this is Poe's law in action.

(Just between you and me, there may actually be a way to "rearrange" the rules, which would be what "magic" is, but I don't know that yet. It's only a dim suspicion, but I think that a certain someone may have played Mad Libs with the universe, and that's why we live in such strange times. But this is all speculative and I don't base my work on guesses.)

I suddenly wonder how many esoteric clubs throughout history were made when one or more guys said to themselves "wait, what if WE rewrote reality because I'm too pissy and special to be with all the losers in the less creatively thoughtful people"?

 

[74164978231]

1. You seem to expect a fair distribution for no reason.

Its merely pointing out how warped women's preferences are.

Im not crying "its not fair", I dont blame women for the paradigm. I blame men who put every woman they come across on a pedestal.

Online dating sucks now for a variety of reasons that have everything to do with their greedy owners. There’s a reason that blackpill talking points exclusively use OLD as an example.

In 2025 OLD isnt just referring to just Tinder or Okcupid. Social media, sadly a fundamental part of society now is one gigantic dating app. Social media has been a giant dating app for some time now.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Damn, Hoey is speedrunning having a full-blown Rudyard-style schizo meltdown at this rate.

In 2025 OLD isnt just referring to just Tinder or Okcupid. Social media, sadly a fundamental part of society now is one gigantic dating app. Social media has been a giant dating app for some time now.

Nah, the way it's used in blackpill discourse is specifically referring to dating apps, particularly the swipe-type ones (you'd rarely see anyone bring up obscure apps like Boo). When it comes to social media it's mainly rage-bait to dunk on retarded women online except now it's extrapolated to "all women are dumb hoes like this", "this is why I've given up", etc, etc.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

I edited yesterday's hoe_math Twitter Substack mysticism essay post to include some clips of hoe_math doing Tarot card demos on stream, talking vaguely about his time joining a secret society cult and his recent posts about shifting from content creation towards "recruiting powerful men" from his audience to "organize" and agitate towards accomplishing unspecified goals.

While looking for old clips, I came across one I thought was relevant about hoe_math shit talking women & Astrology.

@Inside your walls has done some great posts about hoe_math mocking "Astrology girls"

YT Live Q&A Feb 6/7 2024, 19m29s

Q: Why do young women obsess over Astrology?

A: To blame something else. For vibes.

Let's them displace their behavior on to it, gives lack of accountability (ie. cheating just happened, etc.)

Here's another clip where hoe_math elaborates a bit on his personal stance on Tarot cards (and again, happens to have a pack sitting beside him for some reason during a completely unrelated Q & A)

YT Live Q&A Feb 6/7, 2024, 1m45s

Q: Tarot card stance?

A: Owns them (has a pack on his desk offscreen, shows them)
Believes each card is "formulated specifically to mean things about the human psyche"
Therefore, "they mean something for everyone"
"A skilled reader is actually a kind of a psychologist"
"I don't [think/know] that there is any magic in them

 

[74164978231]

When it comes to social media it's mainly rage-bait to dunk on retarded women online except now it's extrapolated to "all women are dumb hoes like this", "this is why I've given up", etc, etc.

Im not talking about women who post click bait content on social media, Im talking about the existence of social media in general. Instagram is 100% a dating app, you dont need to be a thot posting pictures of you in a thong bikini for it to be one.

Dumb hoes is a bit much though, but unrealistic expectations and filled with a number of seriously unattractive personality traits? Ive talked to quite a few prime dating age women at work and its a horror show. Its honestly eye opening when you can talk to these women without having any interest in dating them.

"Oh I just want a decent guy looks arent important who wants to get married and have kids" yet her dating profile is one of a stereotypical gold digger.

Of the single women at work, Id say half have serious redflags in their personality or lives. Those are horrific odds when it comes to dating. What do you do when you go down the dating path and after 3-4 months you find out the woman you just committed to is sharing her dog with her ex still like its a child with joint custody? Or you find out she used to be a sugar baby on seeking arrangements?

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

One last post about hoe_math's Mysticism essay.

...so here's the lesson:

If you are one of the guys who's been saying "but it's not worth it! women aren't it anymore!" You are not arguing with me, you are arguing with God. You are fighting the fabric of reality. I am just a translator. These are not my ideas, they were here before the pyramids.

So the Take Home Message, TL; DR of his ancient wisdom gobbledygook essay is that even if you aren't a Chad & even if Zoomer girls are skanky & disloyal, you still have to go out & try to smash anyway because some Old World pagan deity compels it to be so.

He's also getting pretty close to declaring himself a prophet.

 

[AMHOLIO]

While looking for old clips, I came across one I thought was relevant about hoe_math shit talking women & Astrology.

@Inside your walls has done some great posts about hoe_math mocking "Astrology girls"

Knew it.
"Women do it to blame their problems and personality on something else."

And yet, a deck that was drawn around a century ago by other humans for a game that was never used to tell the future before, just to gamble, is much more solid. I can hear the "IT'S BASED ON ANCIENT WISDOM AND SYMBOLS AND A PROPER MYSTIC" now: yeah, and astrology has literally been one of the longest documented practices of mysticism. Time practiced doesn't mean anything. The only difference is that Astrology is a personalized plan that someone would check on every day, while Hoe Math's system is a long term theory of everything that gives him a game plan he could one day game if he gits gud enough. Both are looking towards outside factors decided by human constructs with shakey associations and colorful traditions rather than scientific reasoning. When they fail, they blame themselves for not conforming to the plan or say the plan was the thing that kept them from it, and if the plan says so, the plan goes. Except when they can game the plan and do chad magic. Basically, astrology is dumb and so is whatever the hell Hoe Meth is on to read and do this.

Men like him and Rudyard seem to like long, great plans. They like routines, plans, and how everyone fits into them, especially if it makes them more special than others and the main character of a magical journey.

One last post about hoe_math's Mysticism essay.

And yes, the men (like me) who DO generate value through strength, we DO get ROBBED BLIND. And we get almost nothing back for it. And it pays for our destruction, torture, and humiliation. It feeds our enemies. And when we oppose this, they try to kill us. And I'm sure you agree that has to stop.

One of the worst qualities of the Math Hoe is his dedication to putting himselve both at the level of others... and also above them. Here he is a martyr who's more of a martyr than them, further on his journey, but don't forget: he's shouldering this burden for you and society.

It's nice to see a guy might be on your side, but when he constantly puts himself above you with false modesty, you have to start thinking about what he gets out of it and his own problems.

 

[my penis is on fire]

The one thing I gotta commend Hoey for is his airtight opsec. 16 pages and months of autistic scrying later and we're not any closer to 'booking him than when the thread was first started. Usually someone as eccentric as him would have at least one followable trail sticking out, but every lead has gone cold. Only way we're gonna be able to get this guy is if we find that one Twitter insider who antifa trannies use to dox right wing accounts.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

The one thing I gotta commend Hoey for is his airtight opsec. 16 pages and months of autistic scrying later and we're not any closer to 'booking him than when the thread was first started. Usually someone as eccentric as him would have at least one followable trail sticking out, but every lead has gone cold. Only way we're gonna be able to get this guy is if we find that one Twitter insider who antifa trannies use to dox right wing accounts.

I mean it isn't that airtight. He freely blabs on about personal details on his streams/videos and has come close multiple times to blurting shit out that he probably doesn't want people to know. It's more that this thread hasn't exploded enough for lots of people to take an active interest is digging deeper into his autism which is how most big "breakthroughs" on KF come about.

Im not talking about women who post click bait content on social media, Im talking about the existence of social media in general. Instagram is 100% a dating app, you dont need to be a thot posting pictures of you in a thong bikini for it to be one.

Dumb hoes is a bit much though, but unrealistic expectations and filled with a number of seriously unattractive personality traits? Ive talked to quite a few prime dating age women at work and its a horror show. Its honestly eye opening when you can talk to these women without having any interest in dating them.

"Oh I just want a decent guy looks arent important who wants to get married and have kids" yet her dating profile is one of a stereotypical gold digger.

Of the single women at work, Id say half have serious redflags in their personality or lives. Those are horrific odds when it comes to dating. What do you do when you go down the dating path and after 3-4 months you find out the woman you just committed to is sharing her dog with her ex still like its a child with joint custody? Or you find out she used to be a sugar baby on seeking arrangements?

Yeah I know about "sliding into DMs", that shit has been around for over a decade now. I've also seen girls' DMs, most guys that try to message them sound like complete retards and many of them STILL get at least one date. As for "gold diggers", I've seen those types dating dudes that are certainly not pulling anywhere near six figures so it's mostly talk.

 

[Inside your walls]

Joel Berry, the manager of Babylon Bee has posted a tweet making fun of hoe_math, this led to hoe_math have a grade A chimpout at him
only for someone else to post the rest of the post where he admitted to supporting abortion for one of the women he was sleeping with.

Also
>Bitching and moaning about ""slut"" culture
>Is enough of a ran through manwhore to father 70 hypothetical kids

He lists one his biggest radicalizing moments about women is when
a woman from his high school day he was dating was allegedly was
cheating on her boyfriend with him and announced her pregnancy
while insisting it's his child

>ABLBUBLBU muh children were aborted because of slut culture
But also
>I might had gotten a girl pregnant and she wants me to take financial
responsibility if I don't want to take actual responsibility for a child?
FUCK YOU BISH!


Given that in this thread it's been highlighted that despite hoe wanting society to pressure women into being mothers and wives while men to be providers and biggest benefactors of this system, he himself doesn't want marriage or children it's very clear that the 70 kids is not him wanting to be a father but rather wanting his children to be symbols of his sexual prowess while also using those children to have access to the women he would've had babytrapped hadn't been for abortion even if they're not dating anymore.


He recently retweeted a post that's blaming women for taking men's jerbs saying his usual spiel how evil girlbosses took his dream job,
but when one of his glazers tells him he has plenty of time to pick himself up he goes to big self-pitying tirade.




This has led to his ay-lawgs taking shots at him





In conclusion:

 

[74164978231]

So he cucked some other dude.

Yeah its very very clear now.

 

[AMHOLIO]

>Bitching and moaning about ""slut"" culture
>Is enough of a ran through manwhore to father 70 hypothetical kids

IT'S A GOOD EVOLUTIONARY STRATEGY FOR MEN TO SPREAD THEIR SEEDS AND HAS JUSTIFICATION BECAUSE MEN ARE GENETICALLY PROGRAMMED TO CONQUER AND HAVE SEX AND DO GREAT THINGS

I DONT NEED TO STAY TO ENSURE A CHILD'S SUCCESS THE SUCCESS IS MY SUCCESS NUTTING INTO SO MANY WOMEN BEING SO VIRLE AND MALES WILL SUCCEED WITHOUT DADS AS LONG AS THEIR MOM ISN'T A SLUT AND WOMEN ARE DOOMED BY THEIR GENETICS ANYWAY SO YOU KNOW I DESERVE MORE KIDS FROM THOSE BIRTH CONTROLING WOMEN

He'd then bitch about child support payments if he did. He also dated feminist and nose ring women, so uh, was his plan to pick women he finds irritating to carry his children then hate the mom and hate how she raises the child? Trick question, I know, he's just humble bragging while blaming women like a crazy Astrology believer blames their planets.

Given that in this thread it's been highlighted that despite hoe wanting society to pressure women into being mothers and wives while men to be providers and biggest benefactors of this system, he himself doesn't want marriage or children it's very clear that the 70 kids is not him wanting to be a father but rather wanting his children to be symbols of his sexual prowess while also using those children to have access to the women he would've had babytrapped hadn't been for abortion even if they're not dating anymore.

This is what I get for midway replying to a post without finishing reading it. Perfect. I'm so glad his a-logs are having fun, because he clearly isn't.

I'd tar more pity on him if it weren't for his refusal to accept any responsibility, his ego, his no-win attitude towards 50% of the population, and his humble bragging. He should get on lithium and possibly go gay or something.

 

[SoleniyKraut]

It’s genetic. They inherit their father’s selfishness and pigheadedness.

Sons inherit most genes from their mothers, which carry their father's genetic information in their Y-chromosome. Meaning that they got it form their GRANDfather's on their mother's side.
Even if so, their behaviour is demonstratively caused by bad parenting, not just genes. Or to be exact - all negative traits they might've inherited were given space to grow in their initial environment.

 

[Steinercard]

The really annoying thing about Hoe_Math is that he does the midwit thing of using real facts to promote his neurotic beliefs. There is a demonstrable correlation of jobs previously taken by whites being taken up by the brown slave class the small hats have imported into our countries. It actually is next to impossible for a white male under 30 to get any kind of job now and that's leading to feelings of alienation, depression, and bitterness amongst Gen Z. But Hoe Math had about 20 years to sort himself out when it was much easier to do so. And chose to be a fuck boy who pursued trashy women because they were hot. As opposed to a good woman who maybe wasn't as attractive or upper-middle class. That's the crux of his problem actually. All these charts he makes and schizo babble he writes is just to justify spending 20 years being a philandering manwhore. And now he sees other more right wing men talking about their wives, families, and lives on social media, Hoe Math thinks the autistic, downright troon-like thought of "I want that. I deserve that too, Why isn't my life like that NOW." without realizing that life those men have was the result of how they lived their lives previously and happened over a lifetime. As opposed to magically materializing into being right now based on a list of things you've decided those men have and thus you must do right now.

That's actually a problem with a lot of so called masculine alpha male self help gurus. Including Hoe Math. Like troons they think if they fulfil the list in their head of what their ideal person is, they will magically change into that person with that life as soon as they tick off everything on the list. And tell their followers this will happen to them too. And when it doesn't they get angry and resentful because deep down they know they wasted the youth they should have spent attaining that ideal over time. They'll even lie to themselves and say they were always following the list when they were younger. But they demonstrably didn't becuase their life is a pile of shit. Hoe Math is left with the realization he's over 40. He has nothing. And people around him who didn't follow his autistic lists and rhetoric have a better life than him. And that just makes him seethe and strike out at people like a wounded animal.

TLDR: Stop being autistic.

 

[Mudkipcorn]

He would have 70 kids were it not for contraception, abortion and slut culture? Retard, without slut culture you would never have had sex 70 times in the first place. Perhaps not even once. Incredible that some men take him seriously when his statements are this transparently misconstrued. He wants liberal sexual mores, just without female empowerment. Sorry, buddy, not how it works.

 

[Inside your walls]

, Hoe Math thinks the autistic, downright troon-like thought of "I want that. I deserve that too, Why isn't my life like that NOW." without realizing that life those men have was the result of how they lived their lives previously and happened over a lifetime. As opposed to magically materializing into being right now based on a list of things you've decided those men have and thus you must do right now.

That's actually a problem with a lot of so called masculine alpha male self help gurus. Including Hoe Math. Like troons they think if they fulfil the list in their head of what their ideal person is, they will magically change into that person with that life as soon as they tick off everything on the list. And tell their followers this will happen to them too. And when it doesn't they get angry and resentful because deep down they know they wasted the youth they should have spent attaining that ideal over time. They'll even lie to themselves and say they were always following the list when they were younger. But they demonstrably didn't becuase their life is a pile of shit. Hoe Math is left with the realization he's over 40. He has nothing. And people around him who didn't follow his autistic lists and rhetoric have a better life than him. And that just makes him seethe and strike out at people like a wounded animal.

I think another thing worth mentioning is that whenever manosphere influencers such as hoe_math and their simps discuss how the world would be so perfect if it had their system implemented that would largely just benefit men like them, they never imagine themselves in that world as regular workers that do labor or cogs in the gear maintaining that system rather they always imagine themselves as top dogs in the big suit sipping martinis with other fellow men in a cool office while ensuring that those peons below keep on endlessly working for their benefit.

It's their "In the new communist regime, I would be an uniform designer/poet/kweer healing crystals guru" you see your average tranny with "Commie marxist, #ANTIFA and #ACAB" say on Twitter. Always some made-up job, but never the coal miner or a farmer that spends almost 12 hours tending his field, a shame really because if hoe_math was a coal miner in that system he'd provide lots of coal as proven with the posts he makes.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

This has led to his ay-lawgs taking shots at him

As @Inside your walls documented above via screenshots, a somewhat random forlorn reply from hoe_math, about him being 40 & there being no trad hope for him, went quite viral yesterday.

It resulted in a lot of feminists mocking him as an aged out misogynist manwhore loser who blames women for all his mistakes. And the more RW and manosphere influencers commenting that it isn't a good look to show weakness.


Archive

This is hoe_math's breakdown of all the commentary about him being hopeless and over the hill.



Archive

If you're a "me too" person, say it more

Uh, maybe poor choice of words there Matt.

His response is essentially that all the reactions either fall into
- haters who he hopes they die
- wellwishers who say there is still hope, who annoy him but mean well
- people that commiserate with him, which he values the most

I'm very, very tired. Compared to before, my life the last 5 years feels like dragging a 40lb boulder around everywhere. As the post says, I can barely manage any additional responsibility beyond my job, which keeps me chained to my desk 90 hours a week. My stuff is still on the floor from when I moved in in NOVEMBER. I did try to start a lasting relationship last year, and it failed for several reasons, most of which is that I am tired.

Familiar old themes of being "tired all the time" for unspecified health reasons persist. Including new insight that his Zoomer Girl relationship failed last year because he wants an age gap relationship but can't keep up with the perky youngsters because he's a sad, tired old man.

Also complaining about 90 hour work weeks at the doodling easel despite being self-employed (and humblebragging about getting close to making a million dollars off his selfmax.ai app).

@The man The only man

Speaking of Zoomer Rich Musician Girl, hoe_math actually re-released a digitally mastered short video from 2024 yesterday. In the description, he specifically mentions that he remastered and recut the video specifically to remove his ex-gf's contributions. But watching the remastered vid, he left some B-roll shots of her that had been lost media up until this point.

Clipped this section from his new re-released vid with old content about his ex-gf.


Best screengrab I could get. Wanted to capture more of her promise ring but the clip is only a second or two long and hoe_math's hand keeps patting up and down.

So it looks like @The man The only man was right that hoe_math did take down his old video called "So Badly (Thinking About Thinking Example) from March 18th, 2024 with the Cavalry Scout girl talking about wanting to like nice guys but instead only morons driving raised pickup trucks get her hot. This is apparently the main channel vid that had contributions from Zoomer Girl that got clipped out other than the screenshots above in the new re-edit.

It's not on his channel anymore, nor was it captured by the PreserveTube archive that @PaperRoads archived back in March of parts of his channel (Don't know if they archive ever made it to the OP).

I can only find vestiges of the March 18th, 2024 original "So Badly" OG video on Yandex & FB.


Yandex Cache Link
Very shitty archive link


There's also a couple of old corresponding Facebook reel links on Bing, but they are dead links.

I tried looking on BitChute, Odysee & Rumble but couldn't find a reupload. I can't access his Tiktok without DLing the app.

Another dead Brave YT link to the old vid.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

The one thing I gotta commend Hoey for is his airtight opsec. 16 pages and months of autistic scrying later and we're not any closer to 'booking him than when the thread was first started. Usually someone as eccentric as him would have at least one followable trail sticking out, but every lead has gone cold. Only way we're gonna be able to get this guy is if we find that one Twitter insider who antifa trannies use to dox right wing accounts.

To be fair, he's just seething about women online in xeets and dumb videos. There's thousands of people like that and nobody cares to phonebook them because it's irrelevant for getting more content. Now, if Hoe starts doing whippets and jerks off on stream or something, it might just be worth it to figure out his real identity. For one, I look forward to the inevitable midlife crisis arc since we already have a thread to document Hoe's increasingly stupid behavior. It's just a matter of time.

 

[Bugman's Burden]

He's like if Al Bundy were single and a character on a 'prestige' TV show.

 

[Inside your walls]

This is hoe_math's breakdown of all the commentary about him being hopeless and over the hill.

He is never going to live this down lol there are more
people on Twitter reposting his self-pitying tirade now



Another big Christian/conservative figure also took a dunk on his "I'm a 40-year old sad faggot"
vent post

How do you think hoe_macaroni responded? Is it
A) Ignored him and take this dunking with grace since him and
James Lindsay share many sentiments anti-woke and pro-Christian?

B) Chimp out at him, write a big fat paragraph that includes you blaming your liberal parents for the way you are, say he was part of a child sex trafficking cult, go on a big fart huffing session sprinkled with Messiah complex how you're saving so many young men with your advice and then make your version of him being a soyjak where you're shitting on him for not being a Christian, your way aka the only correct way?

If you picked B, congrats!


It's tough, folks!