King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

[Jace on ice]

I expect most of the "current year" jokes to be less about politics and more of the "haha look at this ridiculous piece of technology isn't it silly" variety. Bill getting drone Doordash and Dale vaping seems to support this.

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think this will be full of sjw propaganda. Regardless of what video essayists on YouTube say the original run was basically apolitical.

 

[Chilson]

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think this will be full of sjw propaganda. Regardless of what video essayists on YouTube say the original run was basically apolitical.

People are not judging it based on the original run, they are judging it by the thousand other "modern" reboots of beloved classic TV shows that were turned into hardcore SJW propaganda.

You really shouldn't be surprised by everyone's ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED worries about what they might do to KOH considering it has happened a thousand times before to shows that were far more apolitical than KOH.

 

[Travoltron]

I could see taking a short stay overseas. Like a year or two. I can't see him selling the home, only renting it out. I do like the idea of him being the glue that held everyone's lives together and that shit went completely undone without him.

If Joseph took a home DNA test he could have learned the truth. Dale would never take one of those tests though.

 

[Cryogonal2]

they are judging it by the thousand other "modern" reboots of beloved classic TV shows that were turned into hardcore SJW propaganda.

It's weird for people to worry about that when Mike Judge will be involved, unless they don't know who he is

 

[Chilson]

It's weird for people to worry about that when Mike Judge will be involved, unless they don't know who he is

I am not too worried about Mike Judge, but I have seen it many times before where they brought back the original creators who either drank the Kool-Aid themselves or were brought back purely for the publicity and then completely sidelined by the hacks they brought in to make the new garbage.

I am simply pointing out that this is not an unjustified worry to have.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

 

[Jace on ice]

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This is probably the best thing ever posted on /co/

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

It's weird for people to worry about that when Mike Judge will be involved, unless they don't know who he is

Judge's involvement is heartening but it's not inherently a guarantor of quality. Even with him as the showrunner, Silicon Valley completely fell apart in its second half.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I expect most of the "current year" jokes to be less about politics and more of the "haha look at this ridiculous piece of technology isn't it silly" variety. Bill getting drone Doordash and Dale vaping seems to support this.

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think this will be full of sjw propaganda. Regardless of what video essayists on YouTube say the original run was basically apolitical.

The original run was a reflection of its time, politics and all. The politics were never front and center, like say, little Lisa Simpson and her lib rants, but the more conservative Texas lifestyle is the core of the setting and characters. By placing everything in modern times, you are inevitably going to have to address how America has changed, to which there will never be a satisfying answer. The Republican lifestyle Hank lived is one on the brink of extinction. Whether woke or not, there will be a shift in the series.

 

[Spaced Outside Cargo]

The original run was a reflection of its time, politics and all. The politics were never front and center, like say, little Lisa Simpson and her lib rants, but the more conservative Texas lifestyle is the core of the setting and characters. By placing everything in modern times, you are inevitably going to have to address how America has changed, to which there will never be a satisfying answer. The Republican lifestyle Hank lived is one on the brink of extinction. Whether woke or not, there will be a shift in the series.

As odd as it may sound, my primary fear with this is that Disney may have tried to turn it into a conservative grift show to break into the market.
Hank is obviously conservative but, like any other political character in the show, it’s extremely rare for him to be “in the right” while following the tropes of his political leanings. The resolution to the episode is usually Hank learning to compromise (when he’s the focus).
Judge can be trusted but I doubt the Quality Control people at Disney can pick up on this. I worry that they have the power to strongarm “the audience likes hank hill because he is conservative, we need a conservative-targeted show because the pendulum is swinging, make him resolve issues with his conservative politics”.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I dunno why people think Hank would become basically a liberal. He spent years in a region where they execute homosexuals and ban women from driving. At most, he's gonna appreciate that America doesn't do that. Just because I'm fine with my country not executing gays doesn't mean I'm all for wokeness.

 

[KingOfHypocrisy]

Any idea why they changed Dale's hat to have a knockoff Bass Pro Shop logo? Did Mack Trucks not give them permission to use the old one?

 

[The Hardest R]

The original run was a reflection of its time, politics and all. The politics were never front and center, like say, little Lisa Simpson and her lib rants, but the more conservative Texas lifestyle is the core of the setting and characters. By placing everything in modern times, you are inevitably going to have to address how America has changed, to which there will never be a satisfying answer. The Republican lifestyle Hank lived is one on the brink of extinction. Whether woke or not, there will be a shift in the series.

I agree. Texas has changed a lot in the 15 years since the show ended and it’d be weird if it just ignored all that. I could see some focus on the blue state transplants invading the state and impacting small town Arlen. Texas has also got a lot more Hispanic.

I dunno why people think Hank would become basically a liberal. He spent years in a region where they execute homosexuals and ban women from driving. At most, he's gonna appreciate that America doesn't do that. Just because I'm fine with my country not executing gays doesn't mean I'm all for wokeness.

Hank isn’t a liberal but there’s little in common with the Thathertonesque modern GOP and Hank’s small town conservative values.

 

[LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2]

There has been some drama tonight in the King of the Hill fan communities. Jonathan Joss, the voice of John Redcorn, is possibly dead. A shooting has taken place supposedly either at or somewhere near his home in San Antonio. Multiple posts have been put up on the King of the Hill subreddit claiming Joss is the victim, but all have been deleted until the info is officially confirmed.

This comes off an erratic 48 hours from Joss. For those that don't know, a couple of days ago a KOTH reunion was held in Austin to highlight the new season of the show. Awhile back Joss said he had not been invited to the reunion and was pissed about it. Joss reportedly preceded to crash the reunion event the other night when it was held, apparently having some kind of meltdown where he interrupted the event and basically hijacked it for several minutes.

Outside of this event, Joss has apparently been having more erratic meltdowns on his Facebook page.

 

[Jace on ice]

Jesus Christ, I knew the dude was unstable as fuck but damn.

 

[Green Man]

There has been some drama tonight in the King of the Hill fan communities. Jonathan Joss, the voice of John Redcorn, is possibly dead. A shooting has taken place supposedly either at or somewhere near his home in San Antonio. Multiple posts have been put up on the King of the Hill subreddit claiming Joss is the victim, but all have been deleted until the info is officially confirmed.

This comes off an erratic 48 hours from Joss. For those that don't know, a couple of days ago a KOTH reunion was held in Austin to highlight the new season of the show. Awhile back Joss said he had not been invited to the reunion and was pissed about it. Joss reportedly preceded to crash the reunion event the other night when it was held, apparently having some kind of meltdown where he interrupted the event and basically hijacked it for several minutes.

Outside of this event, Joss has apparently been having more erratic meltdowns on his Facebook page.

You know, I was thinking last night when I read that post about him crashing the cast reunion and talking about showing up with a shoeshine kit and being down on his luck, "this sounds like a recipe for a workplace shooting" and I guess I wasn't too far off.

People in some of those threads are claiming to live nearby and/or have first-party knowledge of it and saying that he is indeed dead, possibly shot in a feud with his neighbor, who he apparently terrorized over the years. But it's random assholes on Reddit, so who knows?

 

[BigBadBastich]

Hank is obviously conservative but, like any other political character in the show, it’s extremely rare for him to be “in the right” while following the tropes of his political leanings. The resolution to the episode is usually Hank learning to compromise (when he’s the focus).
Judge can be trusted but I doubt the Quality Control people at Disney can pick up on this. I worry that they have the power to strongarm “the audience likes hank hill because he is conservative, we need a conservative-targeted show because the pendulum is swinging, make him resolve issues with his conservative politics”.

Hank's conservative but I always appreciated how hes not trying to endlessly dictate how random people live their lives and still values the man or woman someone is over their beliefs, race etc. Hank has kicked the asses of more people from his home state than anyone else. Its ironic that even someone like Cotton isn't shown to be racist to anyone in the shows run, he hates Japs and Krauts because they were the enemy HE fought and he still goes to Japan anyways to reconcile with his old Japanese flame. I feel like they aren't going to change this, but as others in this thread have said you have to reconcile his old ways with a wildly changing, backwards, apathetically cruel world its became now and it was becoming that way before the show ended.

The show will have to address so much which is why a revival feels so sudden and out of place. The original was gradually addressing the occasional weird trend or belief, not condensing almost 20 years of chaos into an upcoming season. They not only have to accommodate Hank's personality but the ones of the side characters. Dale was already an internet conspiracy guy so not much will change there, but with things like school shootings and gang violence will they keep him as a member of the Gun Club? Boomhauer likely won't change much but might comment on shit like Onlyfans while Bill will fucking love Onlyfans and porn sites and tinder or social media.

 

[elonmaize]

But at the end of the day the show was really about capturing a specific moment in time with characters that were completely relatable. That is what it has to tap into to make the reboot work.

they should have had Bobby be a single dad, its a bit like what they did in the Roseanne reboot, the kids are grown up but still live at home because of the economy, but you still have a kid involved for those plot lines, maybe you could switch a bit of the dynamic too. society, supposedly is getting a bit more trad too, so maybe you could have a reversal of the dynamic in the original. with Bobby being a mostly liberal dad who has to learn how to reappreciate the stuff his father tried to introduce him to because his own kid likes it, have the pilot be bobby teaching his kid how to make a steak.

Have Hank's whole "plot" be about him finally retiring and having to find out how to have a life, i know plenty of boomers who hit 65 and retire and because they spent their whole lives working, are now struggling to figure out how to spend their time, most of them just get addicted to fox news rage bait and get fat and old on the couch.

Just an episode of Hank dealing with Medicare or SSI would be worth it,

He very much is a character built around an upbringing rooted in post-WWII dealing with a child growing up in the 90s

like i said Jeb Bush, in an era before rap being the most popular genre and curse words still being subversive a guy shitposting on the internet wouldn't have even made it to the RNC iowa caucus much less be president.

But at the end of the day the show was really about capturing a specific moment in time with characters that were completely relatable.

its insane to think about but its true, like the very last season one of the last episodes ever made was literally about Myspace, thats how long ago this was, Bobby would be older than the vice president right now. it was pre-smartphone, the internet was an entirely different creature back then, the idea of making money online would have been an absurd joke.

Hank is obviously conservative but, like any other political character in the show, it’s extremely rare for him to be “in the right” while following the tropes of his political leanings. The resolution to the episode is usually Hank learning to compromise (

"hank hill will say Trans Rights, but it will be a compromise!"

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

Set to release August 4th.

“After years working a propane job in Saudi Arabia to earn their retirement nest egg, Hank and Peggy Hill return to a changed Arlen, Texas to reconnect with old friends Dale, Boomhauer and Bill. Meanwhile, Bobby is living his dream as a chef in Dallas and enjoying his 20s with his former classmates Connie, Joseph and Chane.”

The only thing I'm seriously uncomfortable with is the "closeup of Hank's arm binning the sign" sequence. It's so brief, but also very offputting, animated like a cheap flash from the 90s.

 

[Mr. 0]

The only thing I'm seriously uncomfortable with is the "closeup of Hank's arm binning the sign" sequence. It's so brief, but also very offputting, animated like a cheap flash from the 90s.