King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

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I can just see hank leading a campaign in the desert against a group of arabs who embraced that bastard gas butane over his beloved, allah blessed propane

....and then fleeing the country as his side wins and they start shipping propane to palestine to use for making explosives and hank loses his shit and threatens to kick everybodies ass after the saudi king personally awards him some medal for his part in helping cleanse the jews from palestine. Plus I can't see him being too happy about finding out there is no alamo beer in saudi arabia....and not much in the way of lawns to mow as a coping mechanism....or football. Though I can see hank being a regular attendee in red square in the capitol to watch the thieves get their hand cut off. Particularly if said thief stole any propane

Basic Blond Boy said:
Let's be honest, they are only sending the Hills away to avoid having to address Hank voting. It is an easy cop-out given that will be the biggest question going into this reboot. My only question is why those choose Saudi Arabia over Japan?
Only problem with that is overseas voting is a thing via your embassy

SteelPlatedHeart said:
The preview trailer from Reddit is up on YouTube. Probably want to make an archive.
Didn't see peggy being retired from teaching coming. Seems a little young for that. Unless they basically politely pushed her out the door cause they couldn't stand her and got her to 'retire' early

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Toby Huss is pulling off a passable Dale.
That might actually be the original actor. He did record a few episodes before he died
 
I'll take my puzzle pieces now.
I can't do that, me calling someone autistic for their unnecessarily thought out and detailed king of the hill ideas is the epitome of throwing a rock in a glass house.

What I will say is that I don't think that sort of spin off would be nearly as successful as a reboot. I don't even think it would be easy to find someone willing to produce or buy it. That sort of thing is heavily predicated on there being not just a large amount of king of the hill fans but specifically Bobby Hill fans. I certainly like the idea of the show being based on the full amount of time instead of only half but I would want it to go in another direction.

Frankly, the king of the hill reboot is remarkably safe, any other idea with the property would be infinitely more risky, which means it would never get off the ground.

But ignoring that and pretending for a second that anyone gives a fuck about my king of the hill fantasy sequel headcannon, I would like if the first season was essentially 15 or so episodes actually showing the progression of time, like if you got to see Bobby grow up and people change over the years instead of the sudden change, that way you could get stuff like an episode of ladybird dying, Bobby actually going through puberty, high school, bill dying, Hanks mom dying, Peggy hitting menopause and then putting pressure on Bobby because even the faintest hope of a second go is completely dead.

I think that would be very nice and really let the focus shift slowly and naturally onto Bobby as the main driving force, of course this would never work as a reboot or sequel to king of the hill because it's too different and risky to be accepted by producers and money men.

But in my little fantasy world you would move into the more traditional episodic structure of the original series after the show had caught up.

Although I would prefer if it was a similar episodic structure to a show like star trek TNG. Where every episode happens in a hard chronological order and they reference events of previous episodes and will have consequences of every episode still hang around instead of the king of the hill and animated show version where every episode is completely cut off from each other and everything resets to the exact same at the end of every episode.

Although in earlier KotH and for big events like the death of cotton that continuity did exist.

The original series in my mind was very much a buffet of episodes you could pick and choose from al la carte and there was very little "arc" to any of it, but if there was one overarching story of king of the hill it was absolutely the relationship between Bobby and his dad. The intended final episode of the original series is Bobby and Hank finally bonding and finding something they can do together and reaching a mutual respect and understanding. I would like that spirit to be stronger in this series.

I am also very curious what they will do with Peggy, she looks the most changed of everyone besides Bobby. I really like the idea of her being almost an antagonist towards Bobby truly growing up.
 
I expect a lot of shoved-down-your-throat political crap that fails to understand the appeal of the original run.
Found this on twitter, but it's not far off from what I am thinking we'll see:
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Let's be honest, they are only sending the Hills away to avoid having to address Hank voting. It is an easy cop-out given that will be the biggest question going into this reboot. My only question is why those choose Saudi Arabia over Japan?
Yeah its also why the new intro does show Dale running a third party campaign


I will say, I do like how the reboot has the characters grow up for a multitude of reasons

1. If it's not good, not a big deal since it wouldn't take away from the older seasons since this might as well just be a sequel series and gives an easier degree of separation

2. Finally a fucking animated sitcom where the characters grow up, it feels so rare for any of these shows to have a character grow up, so this is actually refreshing.

3. Makes a lot of recasts easier with the time gap like how Dale is being recast after what sadly happened to Johnny. Would rather get recasts than have a character be permanently killed off like how the Simpsons almost kills any character the voice actor is attached to just because.
 
In Peggy the Boggle Champ Hank Says Dallas is a two hour drive from Arlen.
but when you consider Hank's nature it might actually be pretty close and he's just figuring they might get a flat tire or two
 
The preview trailer from Reddit is up on YouTube. Probably want to make an archive.
Finally watched this. Going to be honest, something just feels off about it. I can’t really explain, but the timing and delivery of jokes is just bizarre compared to the original. There is just a feel to the original that seems lacking.
 
Finally watched this. Going to be honest, something just feels off about it. I can’t really explain, but the timing and delivery of jokes is just bizarre compared to the original. There is just a feel to the original that seems lacking.
Could just be how the trailer is cut, but we’ll see.
 
Just had the thought, instead of Saudi Arabia it would have been funnier to have Hank stuck in some asian country like Laos or China, or anywhere you can drink beer really.

People are hyping up the guy being back, but Mike Judge was responsible for the rough early years, once he moved on from the show did it really become great. Its similar to how American Dad was dogshit in its early years because it was just about mocking republicans, but once Seth moved on, the writing staff decided to embrace the kooky characters around the main one and the show flourished.

A great point of proof for this is how they never show Hank actually voting Republican in the original series, if they could find a way to make him not want to vote Bush who is Mr.Texas GOP, Hank will never agree with anything remotely considered normal in the modern GOP.

Hank Hill is basically an animated version of Jeb Bush.

So you don't have to guess how he'd feel about Trump or the Tea Party GOP types who now dominate. Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if Bobby becomes a drag queen for an episode. i know they did one in the original series, but there's no way in hell the writers for this one remember or care.
 
One thing I’ve noticed now that the teaser dropped is all the people who discovered KOTH via “video essayists” or memes and never even watched the original show. Just look at the IG comments on the official page and you see people claiming KOTH was ALWAYS woke. “It’s a show about a conservative guy accepting parts of leftism CHUD. It’s politically neutral American anime!”
 
The original series in my mind was very much a buffet of episodes you could pick and choose from al la carte and there was very little "arc" to any of it, but if there was one overarching story of king of the hill it was absolutely the relationship between Bobby and his dad. The intended final episode of the original series is Bobby and Hank finally bonding and finding something they can do together and reaching a mutual respect and understanding. I would like that spirit to be stronger in this series.
I think this is the big reason why people are a little apprehensive about the series. The dynamics between the two are going to be different from what the series originally showed. Bobby is no longer the kid that has to be guided the way he was in the original series, and him and his father have already found that common bond that they were looking for. I feel they are going to go the wrong angle by having Bobby be the one that has to guide Hank in a new world he doesn't understand. Not necessarily making the show "woke" or anything like that, but possibly by having Hank have to be redeemed through people like his son.

Someone on Twitter had a similar observation:
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I don't think the reboot is going to necessarily be bad. It has to remember what made the show interesting in the first place: it wasn't necessarily a show about showcasing new trends, talking about political/culture/social issues or even navigating a changing world. Sure, there was plenty of episodes that dealt with those subjects. But at the end of the day the show was really about capturing a specific moment in time with characters that were completely relatable. That is what it has to tap into to make the reboot work.
 
One thing I’ve noticed now that the teaser dropped is all the people who discovered KOTH via “video essayists” or memes and never even watched the original show. Just look at the IG comments on the official page and you see people claiming KOTH was ALWAYS woke. “It’s a show about a conservative guy accepting parts of leftism CHUD. It’s politically neutral American anime!”
The show is very much a weird mixed bag politics wise and for the sake of argument should be looked at as a product of its time - late 90s to early 00s. If I am not mistaken, the most explicit thing to place an end cap and “date” the show would be them using MySpace, which would have been big around 05.

It was a show about a Boomer connecting with his Millennial son in the ever changing world of that time period, giving it a weird mix of left and right leaning politics.

In terms of leftwing, you can probably point to a multitude of episodes. There is the obvious episode about Dale’s dad working at a gay rodeo, an episode that the staff got multiple letters over from gays thanking them. There is also the episode where Peggy makes friends with a drag queen named Caroline, who helps her define what a women is.
Peggy herself has multiple “feminist” episodes ranging from her not wanting to be in the bitch seat to the Renaissance fair where she stands up for women against the sexist king. Also, to be fair, when compared to the other FOX animation wives, Peggy is easily the standout for being the most progressive given she holds multiple (multi-episode) careers over the course of the show.

For the people that think the show is woke, that simply isn’t the case. They had a full episode that felt way ahead of its time ripping into some libtard that decided to ruin Bobby and friends carnival by turning into a learning seminar about the sins of the children’s races. Alongside that episode is the one ripping into Native Americans for being cannibals during John Redcorn’s rant about white people. The series also had a pretty clear anti body positivity episode with that one where Bobby joins a husky modeling group only for Hank to pull him out just before all the kids get bullied. Really, you can point to multiple episodes as being right leaning: The one where Bobby’s protests get out-of-hand, the one where Hank gets rid of the hippies, the one where Hank gets labeled a racist as Ladybird attacked a tradesman, etc..

Honestly, this whole discussion is why I am weary of a reboot. The politics of KOTH are very much a reflection of a very particular era that we have become far removed from. I cannot see a Hank Hill functioning in the modern day without it feeling like a betrayal as his character isn’t that flexible. He very much is a character built around an upbringing rooted in post-WWII dealing with a child growing up in the 90s. To shift the time period would mean to shift the culture the show was built upon, a common problem with these long-running animated sitcoms (Simpsons and South Park for reference), but one that would be doubly so for KOTH.
 
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Honestly what sort of pop culture jabs or celebrity cameos are they gonna have to make fun of now? They had a whole episode centered around punk teens voiced by Green Day or Brad Pitt portraying Boomhauers brother. They still gonna reference Chuck Mangione or Chris Rocks character who worked at Strickland? I feel like theyll have to defer to Zoomer culture now or making fun of shit like the MCU or e-celebs. God help us if Hank has to encounter Fortnite at all.
 
Honestly what sort of pop culture jabs or celebrity cameos are they gonna have to make fun of now?
Bets on Zendaya and The Rock.


I feel like theyll have to defer to Zoomer culture now or making fun of shit like the MCU or e-celebs. God help us if Hank has to encounter Fortnite at all.
Even the MCU would feel outdated. Honestly, my weirdness with this new season is what time period will it be set in? The original series ended in 2010, though in universe, it seemed to end around the mid 2000s (arguably before Obama - 2008 ). Apparently it is a continuation 8 years later, which makes no sense given Covid happened. The timeline is all kinds of fucked making it hard for me to even pinpoint what they could make fun of.
 
I'll give the new stuff a chance but I'm not getting Hulu tho.
The Mouse won't get my cash that easy!!!
 
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Could just be how the trailer is cut, but we’ll see.
My thoughts exactly. The trailer here looks like it was cut in the exact same way that infamous Fox trailer was, where they tried to make the show look way more raunchy and edgy than it actually was so it could compete with Family Guy. [And seeing how the modern adult cartoon lineup is filled with Family Guy clones, I can see why they felt the need to do it again.]
 
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Even the MCU would feel outdated. Honestly, my weirdness with this new season is what time period will it be set in? The original series ended in 2010, though in universe, it seemed to end around the mid 2000s (arguably before Obama - 2008 ). Apparently it is a continuation 8 years later, which makes no sense given Covid happened. The timeline is all kinds of fucked making it hard for me to even pinpoint what they could make fun of.
Its another issue entirely when sitcoms use floating timelines that are an amalgam of ideas and trends from numerous eras. The Simpsons is more egregious with this but KOTH comes close considering it aired in the late 90's and continued on for 13 years. By the time of the shows end Arlen was being gentrified, the internet was beginning to become a cornerstone of the modern household, cellphones were commonplace, and Bobbys musical tastes change too.

So I think they're going to toss in everything thats happened from the show's ambiguous end to now which means crap like the pandemic, trump, obama, smartphones, Gen-Z memes, drones, VR, Tiktok, Ubereats, maybe even references to Russia/Ukraine etc. All mixed into one thing as if it all happened so quickly and advanced to the point of absurdity.
 
Why? There's very little if any progressive propaganda in the Beavis and Butthead reboot.
I'll give Mike judge this, the white privilege joke in the new Beavis and Butthead movie was not only fucking hilarious, but subverted my expectations that the studio would force shit.

For context, Beavis and Butthead up in a white liberal college and are explained that they have white privilege, so they think they can do whatever they want. Cut to them breaking shit, stealing and being obnoxious in Beavis and Butthead fashion saying "I can do this. I have white privilege. "
 
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