The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Of course Linux Mint is officially partnered with the "Global Crew of Activists" Mozilla, so if these sorts of associations bother you then Mint is not the choice for you.
If you want to go with that reach you might as well talk about what Microsoft's stance on ideological BS is, but in both cases you're missing the point that there's a stark difference between having those sorts of associations buried away on your homepage and them being presented in the very first words you read on it.
 
If you want to go with that reach you might as well talk about what Microsoft's stance on ideological BS is, but in both cases you're missing the point that there's a stark difference between having those sorts of associations buried away on your homepage and them being presented in the very first words you read on it.
According to you MX Linux is too political because they're friendly with another distribution that calls themselves "proudly anti-fascist" and displays a tutorial video featuring an ugly person on their front page. As far as I can find, the only other political statement AntiX has ever made was on a Mastodon account where they made a single post saying that there was genocidal influence on Twitter https://mastodon.social/@antix@mastodon.sdf.org. MX Linux does not call themselves an anti-fascist distribution, and have a portion of their "about us" called "our positions" where they say nothing political. If you consider this MX Linux being too political, I have no idea how you can call Mint's partnership with Mozilla a "reach", and it simply seems like you're looking for reasons hate MX Linux.
 
My understanding is that bash had a license change (to GPLv3) starting with 4.0, which apparently is unacceptable to Apple and how it packages software. So they either had to switch shells or stay on a version of bash that's way out of date. The latter isn't a workable option, as the computing world continues to change as years and decades pass. zsh has a free license and a bash compatibility mode, so that's what they went with.
Apple (and most companies) have been anti-GPL for a while. The original post is gone, but here's an archive of someone who measured the amount of GPL programs per OSX release:


Apple obligingly allows you to browse and download the open source software they use in OS X. Since they have listings for each version of OS X, I decided to take a look at how much software they were using that was only available under the GNU public license. The results are illuminating:
  • 10.5: 47 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.6: 44 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.7: 29 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.8: 22 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.9: 19 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.10: 18 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.11: 16 GPL-licensed packages.
  • 10.12: 16 GPL-licensed packages.
As of 10.10 the remaining GPL-only packages seemed to be JavaScriptCore, bash, bc, emacs, efax, gnudiff, gnuserv, gnutar, groff, gpatch, keymgr, libstdcxx, man, nano, screen, texinfo, and uucp. I include this list as Apple have stopped listing the licenses on their download page, to make it harder to track their progress
 
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MX Linux still irks me with how it's a "cooperative venture" with "proudly anti-fascist" antiX that shows you a hideous tankie when you open up their webpage. I wouldn't feel right using a distro that's so openly politically charged.

Linux Mint is all you need.
If you consider this MX Linux being too political, I have no idea how you can call Mint's partnership with Mozilla a "reach", and it simply seems like you're looking for reasons hate MX Linux.
I would honestly rather shoulder the political slant rather than use systemd. Of the "easy"/"new user" distros, the only ones with that going for them are probably Devuan or MX Linux. Of course, for users with more technical inclinations I'd always suggest Gentoo above all, or if they're on a shitbox or otherwise don't like compiling, Void, CoC be damned. If not that, Artix. Point still stands: systemd creep is far and away worse than some random political bloviating.
 
Apple (and most companies) have been anti-GPL for a while. The original post is gone, but here's an archive of someone who measured the amount of GPL programs per OSX release:
I will point out that this isn't entirely accurate as some programs are not listed on this website, such as the GPL2 Apple Chess https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/Chess. Something very weird is that I can't seem to find license files in any of these repos, so I'm not sure if Apple is actually following the terms of the GPL and other licenses that they're using, also the "Download source code" button for Apple chess leads you to the Apple OS webpage which doesn't seem to host the Chess code at all, so that might be a problem.
I would honestly rather shoulder the political slant rather than use systemd.
I would like to clarify that I don't believe MX Linux or Linux Mint are political projects, and as a private person I only care whether the project is political if I don't consider the project to be trustworthy, like Librewolf which is run by an insane person.
 
Of course Linux Mint is officially partnered with the "Global Crew of Activists" Mozilla, so if these sorts of associations bother you then Mint is not the choice for you.
Is there any mainstream distro that does not come preloaded with Firefox? No matter what you're going to need a browser and the only other browsers are closed source, based on Chromium with has a hostile license, or so far behind supporting HTML7 or whatever number were on that they are effectively broken for users.
 
Is there any mainstream distro that does not come preloaded with Firefox? No matter what you're going to need a browser and the only other browsers are closed source, based on Chromium with has a hostile license, or so far behind supporting HTML7 or whatever number were on that they are effectively broken for users.
Zorin and some other distros have switched to shipping a modified version of Brave, because Firefox is committed spyware now, but it's not a huge deal since anyone who is choosing their operating system will also choose their web browser.
 
Mental Outlaw:
>reads baitposts on /g/ with a Xitter/article screencaps
>compiles them into a video that repeats them in a more civilized way so that he doesn't sound like a drooling mongoloid
>gets plenty of dosh from AdSense and a bunch of Dunning-Kruger retards glazing him
>those said retards then repeat BS about Linux being 10000% better than Windows and that no one needs Windows anymore

This guy:
>runs 80 benchmarks just to get data on which Windows/Linux version has the best performance
>Windows 11 inches slightly more over 10
>both Linux distros are ~15% behind Windows
>every "win"/"loss" is within the GPU clock fluctuation margin of error

Though, "I wish I had better news". Here's your good news: going from "can't run shit" to "~15% behind newest Windows" is a massive fucking accomplishment, so chin the fuck up. It's not like you're going to get 10000% more performance with better software, it's the same type of copium as pulling every optimization tweak under the sun to make your ancient PC suddenly perform like a brand new one. Windows already tries it's best to utilize the hardware, and it's all about using it as well as you can, not pulling performance out of your ass. Well, unless you're Nvidia, then you shill MFG or w/e.

I would honestly rather shoulder the political slant rather than use systemd. Of the "easy"/"new user" distros, the only ones with that going for them are probably Devuan or MX Linux. Of course, for users with more technical inclinations I'd always suggest Gentoo above all, or if they're on a shitbox or otherwise don't like compiling, Void, CoC be damned. If not that, Artix. Point still stands: systemd creep is far and away worse than some random political bloviating.
>hey I'd like to try Linux what should I install
>oh install this thing that people rarely hear about because Poettering is the devil and systemd is evil and you should use dickinit+shitbox becuase yadda yadda and also Gentoo is way better

Dude, just tell newbies to fuck off and use Windows at this point, because by pulling this shit you're actively maintaining the zeitgeist that all Linux users are egotistical, narcissistic dickheads.

Mint should be recommended as the only option for newbies for a reason:
-a single suggestion instead of forcing a newbie to choose between Mint/Manjaro/Bazzite/MX/dickshitnux, the moment you do this you've lost them because they're not going to delve into technical pros and cons of each distro when they have zero experience with Linux
-Mint has a massive community and bases itself on a well established distro. systemd is ubiquitous, so if you want the least issues and the most chances someone will help you, Mint is the way to go
If you disagree then, again, drop the pretense you want people to actually switch to Linux, and double down on wanting to keep it your special "2smart4u" club, because you can't have it both ways. Telling newbies to use Devuan/MX is like throwing a toddler into the deep sea. Lest we forget that the average newbie usually doesn't even know you can just reinstall Windows, yet you assume they hold the same Linux knowledge as you do.
 
Mint should be recommended as the only option for newbies
MX is actually more noob friendly than Mint. Your average newbie shouldn't be tinkering with inits to begin with, so the fact that it defaults to sysvinit (with the option to switch to systemd if you're that way inclined) should be invisible to them. MX has a better overall user experience in the UI, with a comprehensive GUI toolset (in the form of MX Tools) for dealing with basic issues than Mint or anything Ubuntu offers, and in my experience is more stable and less prone to "oh shit something broke for no reason" episodes (whereas Ubuntu-based systems - including Mint - occasionally shit out their guts for reasons that would not be obvious to a a seasoned greybeard, let alone a neophyte). It also manages to strike a good balance between newbie friendly and actually capable.
 
I've never had Mint suddenly break on me and I used Mint XFCE edition for a couple of years without any significant changes to it. The first time I tried MX in a vm it broke when I opened one of the settings menus. I blamed virtualization but later when I tried it on a laptop I moved after a week because it had issues properly recovering after going into sleep mode for some reason.

I don't think MX is as smooth as is being touted here. Regardless, anyone wanting to check out Linux should spin up different distros in a virtual machine or on a spare computer before making a decision.
 
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I've been using Fedora 40-42 for a bit, and it does what I need it to do. Debating whether to go back to CentOS with the release of Stream 10, but I probably won't.
 
So has anyone in here given Bazzite/steamOS a shot for gaming? How much work do you have to put into making it work? I currently run dual boot win10/mint because I want to spend my time playing games, not trying to make them work. Win11 is a certified bloated sack of shit, so I was thinking of moving over to one of the proton centric distros when win10 goes EOL.
 
>oh install this thing that people rarely hear about because Poettering is the devil and systemd is evil and you should use dickinit+shitbox becuase yadda yadda and also Gentoo is way better
Yeah. Gotta say I agree here.

Telling a new person to install some alt init distro is probably a bad idea. Just adding more likelihood, they will run into problems. And it will be harder than normal to find solutions. Especially if they don't even know what an init system is.

Everything is made around systemd on Linux now. That's just the reality, and for people to have the most seamless move to Linux possible. They will almost always want to just go with something systemd. And if it's mx getting recommended.

I do think there are cases for some other distros to be recommended to new people. But most of the time mint is fine.

The guy who made Linux Mint is not a big fan of Isreal.

Oh. Then never mind. I think everyone knows Israel is our greatest ally. We can't stand for someone speaking ill of our best menches.
 
I am trying to update all my shit and I keep getting the "failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) error. It lists a shit load of files owned by gpgme. What do I do? I run the update command like every couple days and this is the first time its had issues.

I found this but it doesnt really help me. "just update more often" is not the problem.


NEVER MIND I GOT IT

uhm.... brave logged me out of everything now and dolphin is not showing all my drives.....

apparently i no longer have permission to view or open my other drives.

this is so fucking gay. I just updated my system and now my drives arent available and google is a worthless sob with no answers. All my accounts in my browser are signed out. Etc. etc.

I also lost access to my root folder in dolphin. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS HAPPENING
 
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I will point out that this isn't entirely accurate as some programs are not listed on this website, such as the GPL2 Apple Chess https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/Chess. Something very weird is that I can't seem to find license files in any of these repos, so I'm not sure if Apple is actually following the terms of the GPL and other licenses that they're using, also the "Download source code" button for Apple chess leads you to the Apple OS webpage which doesn't seem to host the Chess code at all, so that might be a problem.
It's in the README

Code:
This is the source code for Apple's Chess.app Version 3.0, as shipped
in MacOS X 10.8. This project consists of two components:
The Chess engine, "sjeng", and the graphical frontend.

"sjeng", contained in the "sjeng" subdirectory, is distributed under the
terms of the GNU General Public License. See sjeng/COPYING for
details.

The graphical frontend, i.e., all files not in the "sjeng"
subdirectory (including files derived from glChess which Apple has
permission to relicense under the following terms), are distributed
under the terms of the Apple Sample Code License:

sjeng doesn't appear to be directly linked (Chess.app seems to communicate with it entirely using standard i/o) so there's no requirement under the GPLv2 to provide source code for Chess.app as it's technically not a derived work.
 
I am losing my fucking mind right now

I had to rename a bunch of files to get the updates to go through and now everything is fucked. I did everything according to the wiki. Check what owns file. If nothing then rename file. Run update. Delete file.

Now i have no access to my hard disks. No root folder for my main OS disk. The drives exist in the KDE partition manager. But I have no access to them in dolphin. I also can not enable "view hidden places" in dolphin
 
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