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Dante Alighieri said:
sounds like it's time to burn it all and start over
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bro i have it setup just how i want it. I have so much shit configured. I checked in fstab and it only lists my main drive partitions.

Something wiped over the update (it was a big one with kernal updates).

None of my drives have mount points. Partitions no longer show in dolphin at all. I do not understand.

I can't even mount a USB drive and access it. Guess I'm booting into windows.

Holy fuck I forgot how much I hated windows. I do not miss all these fucking popups telling me to enable features i do not give a single fuck about.
 
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The Saltening said:
bro i have it setup just how i want it. I have so much shit configured. I checked in fstab and it only lists my main drive partitions.

Something wiped over the update (it was a big one with kernal updates).

None of my drives have mount points. Partitions no longer show in dolphin at all. I do not understand.

I can't even mount a USB drive and access it. Guess I'm booting into windows.

Holy fuck I forgot how much I hated windows. I do not miss all these fucking popups telling me to enable features i do not give a single fuck about.
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Can you boot into the arch livecd and mount them? If the installations aren't entirely borked, you should be able to mount the disks and then chroot into them to try and fix them.
 
Fcret said:
Can you boot into the arch livecd and mount them? If the installations aren't entirely borked, you should be able to mount the disks and then chroot into them to try and fix them.
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the main disk is mounted fine. Nothing is installed on the other drives. They are my windows drive and my storage drives.

I need a way to like rebuild my partition list or whatever. The same thing it does when first installing. I can see my drives in a partition manager but I have no way of mounting. fstab is completely blank aside from the partitions on my main disk. I tried manually adding a drive and it didnt work.
 
The Saltening said:
I am losing my fucking mind right now

I had to rename a bunch of files to get the updates to go through and now everything is fucked. I did everything according to the wiki. Check what owns file. If nothing then rename file. Run update. Delete file.

Now i have no access to my hard disks. No root folder for my main OS disk. The drives exist in the KDE partition manager. But I have no access to them in dolphin. I also can not enable "view hidden places" in dolphin
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for brave. it sounds like your cookies got cleared.

for dolphin. idk I don't use kde stuff. it's always been buggy when i've tried running their stuff in the past.


I had to rename a bunch of files to get the updates to go through and now everything is fucked. I did everything according to the wiki. Check what owns file. If nothing then rename file. Run update. Delete file.
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wait. what?! what article did you read, that it told you to do that? I've ran arch on and off for a good while. That is something I've never done, or needed to do. Would definitely explain how you ruined your system. to get it fixed, I mean, idk it depends what you actually were deleting and changing.
 
The Saltening said:
I tried manually adding a drive and it didnt work.
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Then you probably did it wrong.
test mounts by hand, As root, or put "sudo" in front of all of these "mount /dev/whatever /mnt" and assuming that works you can work to rebuild fstab after unmounting (umount /mnt). It's very picky about syntax, if you add a line, do systemctl daemon-reload and then "mount -a" and see if it works, it should give a useful error if not
It's always recommended to use the "UUID" in fstab which you can get by running "blkid"

Also, check for /etc/fstab.bak or similar.

Also, it could be the filemanager which was auto-mounting stuff, in which case I have no idea as I consider filemanagers an abomination.
 
The Saltening said:
I need a way to like rebuild my partition list or whatever. The same thing it does when first installing. I can see my drives in a partition manager but I have no way of mounting. fstab is completely blank aside from the partitions on my main disk. I tried manually adding a drive and it didnt work.
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It isn't that much of a pain to manually set up /etc/fstab unless you have a convoluted setup. Manually type it out and reboot, see if the other disks mount. Not sure why an update would touch your fstab or anything with Brave but it's more important to fix it than dig around trying to find out why right now.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
wait. what?! what article did you read, that it told you to do that? I've ran arch on and off for a good while. That is something I've never done, or needed to do. Would definitely explain how you ruined your system. to get it fixed, I mean, idk it depends what you actually were deleting and changing.
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this one.

The problem is usually trivial to solve (although to be sure, you should try to find out how these files got there in the first place). A safe way is to first check if another package owns the file (pacman -Qo <em>/path/to/file</em>). If the file is owned by another package, file a bug report. If the file is not owned by another package, rename the file which "exists in filesystem" and re-issue the update command. If all goes well, the file may then be removed.
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It was a shit load of gpgme related files. After the install all but 1 got replaced so I deleted them.
 
I don't think "give up on Arch" is an acceptable answer but I'd honestly recover from a backup because it's easier and more straightforward. If you don't have a backup then use it as a lesson and set up at least a basic one, it makes it trivial to distro hop or recover from things like this.
 
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Aidan said:
It isn't that much of a pain to manually set up /etc/fstab unless you have a convoluted setup. Manually type it out and reboot, see if the other disks mount. Not sure why an update would touch your fstab or anything with Brave but it's more important to fix it than dig around trying to find out why right now.
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I do not fully understand what to put in the options part of fstab. Either way this doesn't fix that I can no longer see or access partitions from dolphin. I might try again later. See if I can get my drives to mount and be accessible.

prollyanotherlurker said:
I do genuinely just recommend giving up on arch. If that's what you ended up doing.

Install mint, maybe fedora. run that for a while. If you really want to use arch. Come back to it later.
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I was running arch because mint is like 10 years behind windows. I use features on a daily basis that are basically brand new for endeavourOS. HDR specifically. Like switching from windows to linux feels like going back multiple years in terms of features. Arch just happens to be the least behind.
 
Aidan said:
I don't think "give up on Arch" is an acceptable answer but I'd honestly recover from a backup because it's easier and more straightforward. If you don't have a backup then use it as a lesson and set up at least a basic one, it makes it trivial to distro hop or recover from things like this.
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I'm saying this. Because I just have a feeling, at this point arch might not be a great option for them. And they're probably going to run into some serious problems down the line again.

For me, I haven't had anything like this happen, but also, by the time I moved to arch, I was pretty comfortable on linux already. Which is probably why I haven't had any actual issues in my time using it.

I think using something that isn't constantly getting updates, especially if they are running a full desktop. Especially something like kde that's already a buggy mess, with 200 dependencies, even with stable distros. It's going to lead to some issues.
 
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The Saltening said:
I do not fully understand what to put in the options part of fstab. Either way this doesn't fix that I can no longer see or access partitions from dolphin. I might try again later. See if I can get my drives to mount and be accessible.


I was running arch because mint is like 10 years behind windows. I use features on a daily basis that are basically brand new for endeavourOS. HDR specifically. Like switching from windows to linux feels like going back multiple years in terms of features. Arch just happens to be the least behind.
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Then fedora will probably work for you well enough.
 
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Aidan said:
I don't think "give up on Arch" is an acceptable answer but I'd honestly recover from a backup because it's easier and more straightforward. If you don't have a backup then use it as a lesson and set up at least a basic one, it makes it trivial to distro hop or recover from things like this.
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Yeah. I need to setup a backup system. I could setup a second pc with large drives to store backups.
prollyanotherlurker said:
Yeah, that's something I don't think I have ever ran into. idk what files you ended up doing that on. But you can definitely mess up some stuff if you started messing around in /usr or /etc without knowing what you were changing if those happened to be the files.
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Those were the folders I was in.
Fcret said:
Please do not tell me you tried to second-guess the package manager.

What command did you run exactly?
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It wouldn't let me run any updates. So I googled it and followed the instructions. The updates were like core system updates and kernal shit.

I ran the pacman -Syu and yay to do updates. I did not use syy or anything. Just syu and yay.

This was my exact issue.
 
Fedora might be a nice middle ground for you. Very up to date but also more stable.
The KDE edition is really nice too. I've used it in the past and quite enjoyed it.
 
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The Saltening said:
I do not fully understand what to put in the options part of fstab.
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Code: 
# <device>                                <dir> <type> <options>                                        <dump> <fsck>
UUID=0a3407de-014b-458b-b5c1-848e92a327a3 /     ext4 defaults                                           0      1
UUID=CBB6-24F2                            /boot vfat defaults,nodev,nosuid,noexec,fmask=0177,dmask=0077 0      2
UUID=f9fe0b69-a280-415d-a03a-a32752370dee none  swap defaults                                           0      0
UUID=b411dc99-f0a0-4c87-9e05-184977be8539 /home ext4 defaults                                           0      2
White space will be formatted slightly off but it isn't strict anyway, just used as delimiter. I recommend using UUID but you can use LABEL= if there is one or a file (/dev/sda1, /swapfile) but UUID is more robust.

<dir> is the mount point
<type> is the file system type so your windows would be ntfs and any linux drives are probably ext4 in your case.
<options> you may have to play with to get it exactly how you had it but you can start with "defaults" and it will probably be usable, maybe slightly less convenient
<dump> Set it to 0
<fsck> is for when it does the file system checks. 0 for do not check. 1 for checking first, 2 for checking after 1.

The Saltening said:
Yeah. I need to setup a backup system. I could setup a second pc with large drives to store backups.
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In this case a single hard drive would get you back up and if that isn't sufficient then yes you need to set up something for the task. If you don't want to spend money on that for now then an external drive backing up only what you really need to recover would still be a nice bit of comfort. Rsync works great for this and you already have it.
The Saltening said:
I ran the pacman -Syu and yay to do updates. I did not use syy or anything. Just syu and yay.
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Why do you use both?
 
Aidan said:
In this case a single hard drive would get you back up and if that isn't sufficient then yes you need to set up something for the task. If you don't want to spend money on that for now then an external drive backing up only what you really need to recover would still be a nice bit of comfort. Rsync works great for this and you already have it.
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I am out of space for drives. So I would want to setup a second pc for backups with like multiple 4TB+ drives. Just 1 for now since my entire linux drive is 2TB.

Aidan said:
Why do you use both?
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I run yay 99% of the time but sometimes I run pacman. Usually just to be redundant and make sure nothing got missed. IDK.

How would I access the drives after mounting if they are not in dolphin? And what is a good mount point? Can I set anything? Or is there a best practice?

I need to go to bed so I wont be fucking with it anymore tonight. But tomorrow I am going to try and fix this. If I can't get it working I am going to reinstall and start over I guess. All I would like to save from my linux drive rn are my godot projects. So I will need to get those transferred over somehow.
 
The Saltening said:
the main disk is mounted fine. Nothing is installed on the other drives. They are my windows drive and my storage drives.

I need a way to like rebuild my partition list or whatever. The same thing it does when first installing. I can see my drives in a partition manager but I have no way of mounting. fstab is completely blank aside from the partitions on my main disk. I tried manually adding a drive and it didnt work.
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if you are talking about the fstab in the livecd it won't have anything until you mount the drive arch is installed on (the /etc/fstab on the liveiso).

it depends what you are trying to actually do from the iso.

you can mount those drive you had with the arch iso on it from anything else. like an ubuntu live iso. and copy files off to another usb, or edit them from the liveiso. then boot the fixed system.

Hard to give proper advice in a thread like this. Without knowing everything else going on, and your plan, or what you are wanting to do from here.
 
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